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NtheSticks · 03-14-2008, 10:11 AM #1 (**permalink**)

I was listening to some of the girls the other day, and I had to shake my head. Since I'm not with that group, I didn't feel it was up to me to advise them.

But they were talking about makeup issues. flaky, flat, dull skin, etc. And from what they were saying, they were putting their makeup on yesterday's (or the day before) makeup without good cleansing.

Now I'm just an old fuddy-duddy, but the BEST THING you can do for your skin is cleanse and moisturize, and always ALWAYS use sunblock.
Cleanse with a cleanser that suits your skin-type. If you don't have oily skin, don't use something for oily skin, basically.
moisturize with a good moisturizer. Sunblock and moisturizer are not the same thing.
and you know what? Occasionally, exfoliate your skin.

All that boils down to: if you want your makeup to look good, what you're putting it on (your face) must be prepared. you wouldn't paint a building with flakes from the old paint on it!

Anyway, That was my observations from 'eavesdropping' on the kids

elektra513 · 03-14-2008, 08:14 PM #2 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by NtheSticks

I was listening to some of the girls the other day, and I had to shake my head. Since I'm not with that group, I didn't feel it was up to me to advise them.

But they were talking about makeup issues. flaky, flat, dull skin, etc. And from what they were saying, they were putting their makeup on yesterday's (or the day before) makeup without good cleansing.

Now I'm just an old fuddy-duddy, but the BEST THING you can do for your skin is cleanse and moisturize, and always ALWAYS use sunblock.
Cleanse with a cleanser that suits your skin-type. If you don't have oily skin, don't use something for oily skin, basically.
moisturize with a good moisturizer. Sunblock and moisturizer are not the same thing.
and you know what? Occasionally, exfoliate your skin.

All that boils down to: if you want your makeup to look good, what you're putting it on (your face) must be prepared. you wouldn't paint a building with flakes from the old paint on it!

Anyway, That was my observations from 'eavesdropping' on the kids

EWW! I cannot imagine putting makeup on top of makeup from the day before!

Washing my face before bed is mandatory, if I don't, I seriously regret it. What's wrong with people these days

Kuuipo · 03-16-2008, 05:34 PM #3 (**permalink**)

Not washing is just nasty. It's part of hygeine. Before you go out in the world you should be clean, its part of respecting other people. That includes mouth care. Nothing ruins a face worse than poor dental hygeine. Not everyone may need a moisturizer, but everyone needs to wash atleast twice a day to get rid of grease, dead skin, dust mites that feed on dead skin, and keep the bacteria population down.

Shimmer · 03-16-2008, 07:15 PM #4 (**permalink**)

Ok that's just yicky.

One of the best (or most repulsive...however you want to take it...) things I've ever heard from a teenaged girl:

"I don't like washing my eyeliner or mascara off because it gives me just an effortlessly smoky look around my eyes without all the work."

That's so gross.

athena123 · 03-16-2008, 07:35 PM #5 (**permalink**)

Eeew! I can't go to sleep unless I remove all my makeup from the day. As a matter of fact, when I get home from work, washing my face and changing from work wardrobe is the first thing I do. I wouldn't be surprised if these girls you overheard had poor complexions as well. Yuch!

Your title for this thread is sooo spot on!

If you don't take care of your skin, makeup will look bad no matter what you do. If I could emphasize to anyone, focus on skincare first, then makeup even though it's not nearly as fun, colorful or glamourous.

erine1881 · 03-16-2008, 09:43 PM #6 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by Kuuipo

Not washing is just nasty. It's part of hygeine. Before you go out in the world you should be clean, its part of respecting other people. That includes mouth care. Nothing ruins a face worse than poor dental hygeine.

i agree with you here.

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Originally Posted by Kuuipo

Not everyone may need a moisturizer, but everyone needs to wash atleast twice a day to get rid of grease, dead skin, dust mites that feed on dead skin, and keep the bacteria population down.

however, everyone needs to moisturize, no matter what your skin type, and you don't NEED to cleanse your face twice a day. once is enough for most people, myself included. i've never cleansed my face more than once a day, and have no skin issues.

athena123 · 03-17-2008, 09:24 AM #7 (**permalink**)

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Originally Posted by erine1881

i agree with you here.

however, everyone needs to moisturize, no matter what your skin type, and you don't NEED to cleanse your face twice a day. once is enough for most people, myself included. i've never cleansed my face more than once a day, and have no skin issues.

I have to disagree with you UNLESS you're not wearing any makeup. It's very important to clean your face first thing in the am and again at night if you're wearing makeup. ON no makeup days, sometimes I'll skip the PM cleansing but not too often. I enjoy my skincare ritual and find the whole cleansing/toning treatments to be very relaxing.

Shimmer · 03-17-2008, 09:26 AM #8 (**permalink**)

There are plenty of articles that say that cleaning in the morning, if you cleansed properly the night before, is really unnecessary.

athena123 · 03-17-2008, 10:06 AM #9 (**permalink**)

^^ I'll agree to disagree Shimmer and think the claims contained in articles like that are misleading. I know my skin better than anyone else does and the benefits of am and pm cleansing is essential to me. I have trouble understanding why someone would NOT want to wash their face upon awakening - it hardly takes any time and if you're using the right product, a very small amount is needed.

I wonder of those who say am cleaning is unnecessary mean is that cleansing with overly harsh soaps is damaging to your skin barrier? That I would agree with.

Shimmer · 03-17-2008, 10:12 AM #10 (**permalink**)

No, I'll say that washing my face in the morning and at night both dries my skin out pretty much no matter what product I use.
Then again, my skin is fairly dry anyway, and is always super duper thirsty, so a.m. and p.m. cleansing are over kill for mine.

athena123 · 03-17-2008, 10:31 AM #11 (**permalink**)

Ah, this is why I don't always listen to skincare experts who propose a one size fits all solution. There simply IS no single solution for all skincare types; that's why I find articles like the ones cited in this thread to be very misleading.

It would have been far more accurate had they made note of different skin types. I can see that those who suffer from dry skin may not need twice a day cleanser, but that's only one type of skin; where as combo/oily/acneinc skintypes benefit a great deal from both am and pm cleansing and treatments.

Now I'm a little curious re: the definition of cleanse? Sometimes on my no-makeup days, I'll wash my face with cool water and microfiber cloth only. Since I'm not using any product does that count as a cleansing routine? I happen to think it does regardless of product use or lack but curious...

Shimmer · 03-17-2008, 10:50 AM #12 (**permalink**)

I would view that as cleansing, regardless of product use.