i can do it but it's long.
Spoiler/Rumour!-HBP - Don't Read if U don't like such things
by - ImpQueen 4 days ago (Fri Jul 15 2005 18:19:16 )
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UPDATED Fri Jul 15 2005 18:24:26
I have a speed reading freak of a friend who may be lying to me but I just thought I’d post out of boredom- I'm an Alan Rickman fan so there in lies my HP interest (Jason Isaacs, David Thewlis, Gary Oldman, Ralph Fiennes too
BUT he says that ........
Snape kills Dumbledore! WTF!
.........More Below! WARNING!
Narcissa Malfoy and Bellatrix Lestrange go to a house on Spinner's End to find Professor Snape. Narcissa wants Snape to help her son Draco Malfoy, because he has been assigned a task by Voldemort that is far above his ability ( KILL Dumbledore) to accomplish.
Snape has taken a 'unbreakbale vow' that he will help Draco Malfoy in his task, whatever it may be, and do it for him if it looks like he will fail. Snape is also revealed as Voldemort's most trusted accomplice, but his allegiances remain unclear as of this chapter.
OKAY GOING TO STOP NOW.....SORRY IF I UPSET ANYONE
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by - morbidxdream 4 days ago (Fri Jul 15 2005 18:53:29 )
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harry also knows snape killed dumbledore, or bumblebee as i call him...anyways, he tells hagrid, who saw death eaters running somewhere on the hogwarts grounds but he didnt know why. i saw the page. it was 606. or 602. 60-something. 606 i believe.
i cant wait.
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by - ImpQueen 4 days ago (Fri Jul 15 2005 18:59:34 )
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UPDATED Fri Jul 15 2005 19:01:26
i know! But i really like Snape! And i kind of want him to turn out to be good....but all leads......
SPOILER!
(Snape is also revealed as Voldemort's most trusted accomplice, but his allegiances remain unclear as of this chapter(2)point to him being a total backstabbing brilliant double agent spy *beep*
sorry for my language!
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by - buckbeak3 3 days ago (Sat Jul 16 2005 01:48:20 )
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STOP IT BEFORE I HURT MYSELF!!!
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by - ImpQueen 3 days ago (Sat Jul 16 2005 01:58:12 )
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All i want to say is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
How mean! Yet very cool! Good Read especially the last few chapters!
[/orange] [[out]] scream...scream...scream...
Look at him swish his cloak!
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by - Actressinthemaking3 3 days ago (Sat Jul 16 2005 19:23:16 )
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I was so distraught at first, but now, I'm starting to think there's a possibility that Snape is still good... They may have planned this as a last resort.
This would be so typical of the two of them, and if you think about it, makes alot of sense.
1) Snape didn't kill Harry in the end. He could have, but didn't. All the death eaters who have proved to be the most dedicated to Voldemort, the ones who are so hopelessly devoted to him that they would do as Snape has just done, have attempted to kill Harry. Bellatrix Lestrange tried to, Crouch tried to... it doesn't fit.
2) If Snape hadn't killed Dumbledore, then either Draco would have been forced to kill him, or wouldn't have been able to and would have been killed by Voldemort, and also, the other Death Eaters would have killed him. Dumbledore knew he was on his way out, I think he has been preparing Harry for it all year. This way, Snape will still be around, and know what is going on. He didn't think Draco could do it, and with all the aurors around, Draco couldn't have pulled it off- the unbreakable vow would have killed him.
3)The other adults are too protective to help Harry, Dumbledore would need to be able to rely on someone who wouldn't shelter him, as that has only resulted in tragedy before. Likelihood would dicate that (with Dumbledore, the only person who truly trusts Snape) gone, his duties as spy would no longer be too helpful. Snape may end up saving Harry in the end- and I agree with whoever said it before- I don't think that J.K. Rowling would really turn him into the character that is evil after all the children have been like, "he is"- the lesson isn't there, and he's too complex a character to just be like, oh, there's no big secret, he's just evil.
There are millions of other points to be made, but I'm going to leave that up to the rest of you
...he better redeem himself... or suffer my... displeaure.
yeah, that's right. Do you hear me Severus Snape?! You better clean up your act! I'm giving you one warning, and then, it's all over.
Oh lord, we have to wait like, two or three years now to see if he really is evil. I don't think I can stand it.
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by - startobe 2 days ago (Sun Jul 17 2005 14:14:16 )
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Snape isn't evil. Dumbledore absolutely WANTED Snape to kill him. Remember the scene that Hagrid witnessed when Dumbledore was trying to convince Snape to do something for him? And how when Harry wanted to fetch Madam Pomfrey Dumbledore insisted that he needed to see Snape? And then right before Snape killed him, Dumbledore was pleading with Snape? Dumbledore wasn't pleading for his life, he was pleading for Snape to kill him, he had been all year. Why you ask? It's very simple.
Dumbledore knew about Snape's unbreakable vow, he knew that Draco would not be able to kill him, and if Snape did not fulfill his promise he would die. Having passed to Harry all the information needed to kill Voldemort, Dumbledore was not of much use anymore; his hand was shriveled and he was weakening in old age. Snape would be much more useful to the Order, especially if he could gain the complete trust of Voldemort by killing Dumbledore. Dumbledore was going to die very soon anyway, why should he waste his death in a hospital bed when he could give Snape incredible powers by letting him commit the murder?
Now for a moment let's think of this all from JKR's perspective. In the second chapter we see Snape associating with death eaters, and even making an unbreakable vow with them. Then we see him talking to Draco about his plans. And then in the end he actually is evil? There's no twist. If you interpret this book to mean that Snape is really evil, then there is absolutely no twist or surprise. That is just not how JKR functions.
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by - kellyuwga 1 day ago (Sun Jul 17 2005 21:36:38 )
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OMG THAT IS THE BEST!!!
I will quote you for always now!!
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by - labellesatine 1 day ago (Sun Jul 17 2005 21:49:52 )
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That does make a lot of sense, because I was thinking the same thing. There was no twist by having Snape turn out evil after all. Just like all the other characters, I was thinking Dumbledore had to know something about Snape that the others did not that would have prompted him to trust him after the murder of Lily and James. It seemed a bit of a cop-out to me to make Dumbledore have such poor judgment. So, yeah, I really like your theory. It makes for a great twist that's more typical of JKR.
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