Well after reading several reviews about UDPP, I finally went and bought it today. I tested it out and It stayed on really well! Problem is, its a little bit hard to remove! So what do u gal's use to remove your eye makeup after using UDPP. And second question, I'm about to purchase fluidline, only prob. is, I don't know what brush to use, and I'm new to it, so please recommend me a good brush for a beginner! THANKS luv u girls!

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fluidline: mac 266 :-D (dont get the 266se like i originally did bc its very stiff)
UDPP: i use makeup remover (TBS Chamomile) anyway to remove my eye makeup (since i use waterproof mascara and sometimes i have falsies glue to get off)

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ooh u use tbs chamomile too? Does it burn your eyes sometimes when it gets inside there?

this is a stupid question but.. whats tbs? lol.

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i think its the body shop

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Use a 266 or a 209 for fluideline, depends on what you feel most comfrotable with. A lot of people like the 266, I use both depending on what I'm doing with my liner that day.

For the UDPP I've never had a problem removing my make-up I use MAC Gently Off Eye & Lip or MAC wipes if I'm not wearing Liquid Last.

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Another vote for 266. It is the best brush to use for fluidlines. I use makeup wipes to get my makeup off. It doesn't really matter which ones

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Johnson & Johnson baby oil. Seriously, it takes off all eye makeup, including UDPP and waterproof mascara. It's cheap and gentle, just be sure to wash your face as normal afterwards.

As for brushes, the cheapest option - especially for someone new with brushes - is to get a pointed sable brush from an art store. Another good option is the Kryolan, Torey and Ben Nye professional brushes.

Ben Nye brushes range around $5 and are good quality and very economical - a good choice for someone new with makeup brushes: http://www.fxsupply.com/bn_catalog/bn_brushes.html

Kryolan Brushes come in three different lines - student, professional and premium - the premium range is *lovely*:
http://www.fxsupply.com/kryolan_catalog/brushes.html

The point I'm trying to make is that you do not have to go with MAC necessarily to get a good makeup brush. You can save a lot and still get a good brush in other makeup brands.

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Thankyou so much! that was very helpful to me!

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As far as the brush, I know a lot of MA's swear by the 266 for Fluidline, and for me it's OKAAAY...but I use my 266 to fill in my brows...So I actually found a brand called Japonesque (which I love, and they are about as nice as MAC brushes) and I use the pointed eyeliner brush from them.

http://www.japonesque.com/prod_professionalbrushes.html

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209 brush works for me.

I just use Ponds wipes to get all eye makeup off...this works for all makeup period.

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I use the MAC wipes and it takes off anything that my cleanser didn't remove. It works well. I'm sure Wal-Mart has something similar in nature. As far as Fluidliners, I use the 208. I've tried the 209 but I didn't like it. I think it was because I use so used to the flatness of the 208.

I like the 208 or the 263 better than 266. I also love my Bobbi Brown liner brushes, the regular and the ultra fine.

I use Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Cleanser for my whole face, eyes also. It gets it all.