MAC Sharon and Kelly Osbourne Collection (June 5, 2014)

[Mac-Guy]

People just need to remember it'll never stop people will always return end of so why complain about it. I understand being a consumer and such. I don't want prices to go up either or the policy to change. But at the end of the day if the world stopped returning the prices would still go up no matter what. Idk I don't want to fight with anyone about it so no one fight with me lol

Actually, I'm glad that this topic comes up in every collection thread. IMO, it's utterly important. It is not just about prices (but yes, high return correlate to frequent price increases). But it is much more:

- conspicuous consumption (spending money to publicly display "economic power" - e.g. on blogs or youtube, and then return it as one can't really afford it) @mousygiggles's example of the lady with the four bags comes to mind.
- environment (if you return it, it will be discarded immediately)
- social consumerism (if you buy it and return it, you take it away from another person who would have loved this product)
- ... etc. etc.

Companies do take returns seriously. Ask @HerGreyness

Yes, we've been there before. It's a rerun. It's still important. Stepping off my

box now.

 

[Uptownbackinit]

I feel like I need to start stalking already.

I'm ready lol. I think I'm gonna try to order everything online, and avoid the store. That's if everything isn't gone in 2 seconds.

 

[msarge]

I'm ready lol. I think I'm gonna try to order everything online, and avoid the store. That's if everything isn't gone in 2 seconds.

That's my plan too - I'm hoping to get everything I want online but feel like this collection is going to sell out fast!

 

[msarge]

For a long time it was shadows for me, then lipglosses, then lipsticks, for a while now im mostly buying blushes!!! they get me really excited!!!! I try to use a different one every day. i even have ones i havent had a chance to use yet. but i use blush fast. i use so much studio fix powder, blush, and primer cuz i sweat and reapply so often. so what a good reason (excuse) to buy (hoard) all the blushes i want!!!!!

Blushes are my thing too!

 

[jenise]

Team ALL the lippies

 

[Dolly Snow]

Actually, I'm glad that this topic comes up in every collection thread. IMO, it's utterly important. It is not just about prices (but yes, high return correlate to frequent price increases). But it is much more: - conspicuous consumption (spending money to publicly display "economic power" - e.g. on blogs or youtube, and then return it as one can't really afford it) @mousygiggles 's example of the lady with the four bags comes to mind. - environment (if you return it, it will be discarded immediately) - social consumerism (if you buy it and return it, you take it away from another person who would have loved this product) - ... etc. etc. Companies do take returns seriously. Ask @HerGreyness Yes, we've been there before. It's a rerun. It's still important. Stepping off my :soapbox: box now.

Oh I know all of this! All I was saying is all the talking in the world still won't stop peoples returns. Matter of fact during the riri fall launch a young man came with three full bags of returns to use on riri.

 

[sullenxriot182]

If anyone wants to play guess what my mutt is?

Mostly Rottweiler, for sure. Possibly a rottweiler/lab mix!

 

[User38]

Actually, I'm glad that this topic comes up in every collection thread. IMO, it's utterly important. It is not just about prices (but yes, high return correlate to frequent price increases). But it is much more:

- conspicuous consumption (spending money to publicly display "economic power" - e.g. on blogs or youtube, and then return it as one can't really afford it) @mousygiggles's example of the lady with the four bags comes to mind.
- environment (if you return it, it will be discarded immediately)
- social consumerism (if you buy it and return it, you take it away from another person who would have loved this product)
- ... etc. etc.

Companies do take returns seriously. Ask @HerGreyness

Yes, we've been there before. It's a rerun. It's still important. Stepping off my

box now.

Could not agree more with @Mac-Guy !

I have often and boringly repeated my warnings. The bottom line is getting hit and companies don't like that.. it's nothing personal kids, it's just business. If you are losing money frivolously, you try to rein it in and if the consumer gets pissed off, that's fine. The self adjusting mechanism of the market will ultimately win.

What does this mean? that those who really cannot afford a line/product will not be able to purchase because returns will be curtailed or not allowed at all. If you bought it, you own it.. till death do you part. It's a huge black hole where these products go and how much money is involved. If people are buying products to try and return after they have worn it a week and it doesn't "work" this is a lack of responsibility. It's like having dinner and two days later coming back to the restaurant and asking for a refund because you did not like the meal. But you ate it.

in future, the companies might give more samples, or have a different system for trying products, or totally seal off a product and not accept returns if the seals are broken.. But the really liberal return policies will be necessitated if we as consumers wish to have all these wonderful products available to us.

we only see the finished product. We don't see the actual work that goes into making the products.. i.e. the Research and Development which costs an arm and a leg. The creative direction which is not cheap.. the marketing which is getting more costly, the actual commodities (the separate and individual pieces and parts that are components of a product) -- these are all increasing in prices too. Gasoline (oh yea.. the cost of petrol is a big component of the mfg costs.. ad nauseaum. It goes on and on.

In a recent report, I will admit that I am one of the staunchest believers in curtailing or control of costs. That is my job. Additionally, I feel that if you are not able to pay your rent, or pay your tuition, or kid's needs, they you should not be buying makeup and then returning it. And the You Tubers who live off this, or bloggers, who buy and return for the sole purpose of greater hits on their sites, need to take a course in basic economics.

This situation is becoming unsustainable.

off mine too

 

[jchait]

I don't do a whole lot of online buying lately but with current stress levels I may buy online to save myself a journey.

I feel like even online is a big huge hole of stress. Especially after the whole Riri fiasco, and most recently AA spectacle, people are trying to buy everything online now. I was forced to go to the mall to get some items that sold out too fast online. Hopefully this will not be Riri level, but I plan on staying up all night to get the things that I want.


Also ladies, I would like to say thank you for the outpouring of love and prayers and thoughts you have sent to Collin and me. It honestly does mean a lot to me.

 

[Monsy]

I am looking forward to NO RETURNS policy. Just like in the lovely Europe. Once you walk out the store door with that product there is no going back. You are stuck with it.

 

[honey on boost]

Could not agree more with @Mac-Guy !

I have often and boringly repeated my warnings. The bottom line is getting hit and companies don't like that.. it's nothing personal kids, it's just business. If you are losing money frivolously, you try to rein it in and if the consumer gets pissed off, that's fine. The self adjusting mechanism of the market will ultimately win.

What does this mean? that those who really cannot afford a line/product will not be able to purchase because returns will be curtailed or not allowed at all. If you bought it, you own it.. till death do you part. It's a huge black hole where these products go and how much money is involved. If people are buying products to try and return after they have worn it a week and it doesn't "work" this is a lack of responsibility. It's like having dinner and two days later coming back to the restaurant and asking for a refund because you did not like the meal. But you ate it.

in future, the companies might give more samples, or have a different system for trying products, or totally seal off a product and not accept returns if the seals are broken.. But the really liberal return policies will be necessitated if we as consumers wish to have all these wonderful products available to us.

we only see the finished product. We don't see the actual work that goes into making the products.. i.e. the Research and Development which costs an arm and a leg. The creative direction which is not cheap.. the marketing which is getting more costly, the actual commodities (the separate and individual pieces and parts that are components of a product) -- these are all increasing in prices too. Gasoline (oh yea.. the cost of petrol is a big component of the mfg costs.. ad nauseaum. It goes on and on.

In a recent report, I will admit that I am one of the staunchest believers in curtailing or control of costs. That is my job. Additionally, I feel that if you are not able to pay your rent, or pay your tuition, or kid's needs, they you should not be buying makeup and then returning it. And the You Tubers who live off this, or bloggers, who buy and return for the sole purpose of greater hits on their sites, need to take a course in basic economics.

This situation is becoming unsustainable.

off mine too

I keep seeing so many people post on IG "I bought too much stuff and I need the money so I'm returning everything". If you didn't have the money to buy makeup, why did you buy it in the first place? I've also seen "Youtubers" buy a whole collection to swatch just for the "views" it's ridiculous. Especially when they complain about the colors/finishes of the products when there are REVIEWS available way before the collection released.

 

[audraMUA]

:agree: I keep seeing so many people post on IG "I bought too much stuff and I need the money so I'm returning everything". If you didn't have the money to buy makeup, why did you buy it in the first place? I've also seen "Youtubers" buy a whole collection to swatch just for the "views" it's ridiculous. Especially when they complain about the colors/finishes of the products when there are REVIEWS available way before the collection released.

I literally hate that. Like. Just stop. Please. It's really unfair to the people that want the collections

 

[Honi]

From Temptalia.com
It looks sooooo pink. I have VG Nicki2 so I dunno if I need DG. Now I'm in doubt..

 

[Ana A]

I literally hate that. Like. Just stop. Please. It's really unfair to the people that want the collections

I agree, although I see no difference between them and those who buy ridiculous amounts for the sole purpose of re-selling. I get it if you buy and return/sell something you weren't able to swatch because you couldn't get to a store or perhaps a b/u you decide you don't need...but selling your 5 "b/u's" for $40 plus and worst of all when some of those products are still available in some places (like many girls on IG) is ridiculous.

 

[jchait]

I am looking forward to NO RETURNS policy. Just like in the lovely Europe. Once you walk out the store door with that product there is no going back. You are stuck with it.

That would be a dream come true! I think it's a great idea to have a no returns policy. I personally have never returned anything to MAC. I love all my babies <3

 

[NaomiH]

I've only ever returned one cosmetic item in my life and it was a foundation. The colour matched perfectly and the wear was great but it made my skin break out to high heaven so I had to stop wearing it. I usually try and buy in store if possible and if it is an online purchase that I buy on a whim that doesn't work for me for whatever reason after several attempts, I usually try and find someone who it might work for (usually my sister or nieces) and if they don't want it, I set it aside in case someone down the line shows interest in it because I hate returning items unless absolutely necessary and will never understand those people who just compulsively return.

 

[MandyVanHook]

That would be a dream come true! I think it's a great idea to have a no returns policy. I personally have never returned anything to MAC. I love all my babies <3

Me, too. I have had to return a couple lipsticks where the top of the lipstick was smashed into the top of the tube, and one brush that wouldn't quit shedding like crazy. I typically won't return unless the product is faulty, though.

 

[NaomiH]

From Temptalia.com
It looks sooooo pink. I have VG Nicki2 so I dunno if I need DG. Now I'm in doubt..

 

[MandyVanHook]

As long as we do our research on the products, rarely should we have any reason to return them! With that said, what is everyone getting?

 

[jchait]

DG is a matte, so the wear is going to be totally different right off the bat. I don't think that Temptalia swatches (at least to me) are the most accurate, mostly due to the studio quality lighting, etc. I usually lean more to Karen's swatches. To me, they are a better representation of the actual color of the lipstick. And remember that lipsticks look different on all people!