Advice...again...SIGH

euphrosyne_rose

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A while back I posted a topic about some issues I was having with the b/f. To recap, we've been together little over a year, we do love each other very much and have talked about getting married. Long story short, he has such bad luck it borders on unbelievable. In the past 6 months he's had such terrible issues and it's affected him more than usual b/c he has depression and takes meds for it.
1. He has student loans and defaulted on them a while back due to an illness where he was unable to work and couldn't pay his monthly payment-- they take out $800/month from his check
2. The house he lives in actually belongs to the aunt of his best friend so he pays no rent but she has decided to develop the land the house sits on so he has to move out before the end of the year... can't afford to pay rent b/c of above so he's been freaking out about that
3. His grandmother has been in and out of the hospital the past 2 months and is not doing well at all. Right now she's in the middle of a bad infection, liver and kidney failure and just suffered cardiac arrest a few days ago. She's stable but still not doing well and they are not hopeful she will live much longer.
4. His beloved dog was bitten by a poisonous snake and almost died. He had to rush her to the emergency vet, hence more bills he can't afford. The dog is ok now.
5. He just found out he has glaucoma so that again is even more bills b/c of the eye drops and continuous doctor visits. He's a teacher so his salary is not much and his insurance is one of those where he has to reach his deductible before the insurance kicks in. Whew. Oh, and he hates his job.

So, the problem is this:
His parents live in North Carolina and they love me and I really like them. They are great people. They have offered to let us live with them in NC until he is on his feet and able to catch up. I have tried every suggestion I can think of to get his student loan payment reduced but EVERY suggestion me, my family or his family comes up with gets brushed off b/c he swears there is nothing he can do, that the student loan board are all jerks and they will get their money no matter what. He says he can't claim hardship b/c they told him it would be near impossible b/c he doesn't have a terminal illness, isn't a minority and isn't on welfare.
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They told him that if they were able to take $500 more a month ON TOP of what they take now and he paid that for about a year, they would be willing to drop the monthly payment more than half. His parents suggested he move in with them, find a better job and then since he'd have almost no bills, he could catch up for that year and then hopefully find a place of his own and we could get married. He doesn't want to get married until he's "financially" stable and I see his point, but at the same time I don't feel like most people are "financially" stable these days and it's not likely to happen as quickly as he thinks.
I live with my dad b/c I can't afford to live by myself either right now. I don't pay rent but I do pay all my other bills and help my dad with groceries and such. My parents just went through a divorce after almost 25 years of marriage (my mom left my dad and was remarried less than a month after the divorce was final. She got married last month...) so my dad is still getting over that and he likes having me and my sister around b/c he has no other family.
My b/f expects that I should just have no problems with up and moving 1200 miles away. I really DO NOT want to move. It really has nothing to do with him, his family, or even NC, but I FINALLY after the past few years have gotten to a point where I am comfortable. I am getting over my parents divorce, love my job, and I'm happy where I live. After trying to find other solutions to moving, like him finding a better job here, he just doesn't think he can get a job here with his qualifications. The best solution for him is to move in with his parents until he gets caught up. He acts like there is no other choice but for me to go as well. His parents are fine with me being there, but part of the reason I don't want to go is my dad. He decided to keep this house after the divorce and part of the reason was b/c my sister and I were here. He's still not himself, and I know he's a big boy, but I really just don't think the timing is good.
A few weeks ago I finally agreed to move with the b/f and we were going to tell everyone I was moving after his parents found a house (they live in an apartment for now) and we had more details to give my family. Well, his parents are having a hard time finding a house and I've only been at my job for a year. It's a great job and the first job I've loved. I don't dread going to work like some of my friends or my b/f. I have benefits, great vacation and they all love me there. I really hate to leave there after I told them a while back that I planned on staying a long, long time.
My b/f and his parents have been asking me and asking me when I was going to talk to my dad about moving and I've been putting it off. My dad is the kind of person who likes to know dates and times and specific details and I haven't had that to give him. I don't know when we would be moving or exactly where in NC we'd me moving to, etc. and so I haven't told him b/c of that but also b/c I'm afraid of his reaction.
Tonight at dinner my dad was asking me what my b/f was going to do about his finances b/c he knows about the troubles he's been having. I finally went ahead and told Dad that he was going to move to NC with his parents and he wanted me to go. Before I could even say anything else about it, my dad said he didn't think it was a good idea and before we could talk about it more, the phone rang for my dad and then he went to bed so I KNOW he doesn't like the idea and it's just made me realize even more how I DON'T WANT to move. I really do love my b/f but I don't want to wait forever to be able to get married and have kids, etc. I am not sure I'll be able to find a job or how I'll pay my bills and he's not either. I just don't know if I love him enough to totally rearrange my life and move that far away. I lived away from home once and I absolutely hated it. That's why I moved back.
If anyone out there could give me their opinion about how I shoudl handle this, I would really appreciate this. I really need to let my b/f know that my dad doesn't approve, and while I'm an adult and all, my family's approval is really important. My best friends thinks my b/f should go ahead and move once his family finds a house and get himself settled with a job and the once things have smoothed out, then maybe I can go up there and search for a job. I think she's right. Sometimes I think it would be great to go and start new and live somewhere else, but most of the time I just don't want to and I think that's how I really feel if I'm honest.
The other night my b/f was asking me again if I had talked to my dad and when I told him no, he said he and his mom were getting nervous that I wasn't really coming b/c I hadn't told him yet. I got really upset and told him he needed to realize how hard it was for me and I still wasn't sure how ok my dad was after all that's happened with him and my mom. He then sounded all down in the dumps and told me I didn't HAVE to go, but he didn't want to have be without me and do things long distance. So, I feel like he was giving me a guilt trip b/c I felt like I HAD to go then.
Someone please help me out. I am so stressed out right now and I don't know what to say to my b/f or my dad. I really need to talk to my b/f about what my dad said, but it's just going to make things worse for him and he's going to get all bummed out again. It's like I can't win.
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girlsaidwhat

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You are /allowed/ to have conflict over this!
Give yourself permission to be conflicted.

It's not your responsibility to please your father, or your boyfriend...
but it is absolutely your responsibility to please your self.
You are the one who will have to live with your decision.
You need to make it based on /how you feel/.

You're obviously not ready to move away, for various reasons. You don't need to ....justify yourself, to your boyfriend, his parents, or anyone else. It's perfectly ok for you to feel protective over your father and want to be there with him. Your family just went through a /lot/ and it's perfectly fine for you to want to...be a part of the healing that needs to happen now....before just taking off to live somewhere else.

You would know without a doubt that you should go....if it was what you really wanted.

The problem here is that you're trying to please too many people, instead of giving what YOU want the most weight inside of you. But again, /your/ happiness is /your/ responsibility. Don't feel bad for wanting whatever it is that you want. Just get clear about it. That's the best you can do, for /anyone/. Including yourself. And then... work to communicate it clearly to those around you.
 

SkylarV217

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Honey, If you don't want to move and you do it to please everyone else it will make your situation worse. You Move to NC and you are Unhappy, You would be living with your b/f and his family and would be unhappy. Then that would create problems ... Remember it's not easy to live with your sig other and its defiantly not easy living with him and his Parents.

THIS IS NOT something you should be pressured into you need to do what is best for you !
 

seonmi

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I think you are right to be concerned about this. I'm glad that you don't just get rid of everything that you have now and totally get a new life for somebody. If you really don't want to move, don't be pressured into leaving with your bf. I'd just do the long distance relationship thing for a while and then see how you feel or if there are any opportunity coming up. Maybe your bf can stay with his family and get a job there. After settling down, if he wants to be with you, he can apply for a good job where you are. If he gets it, he can move back to stay with you.
I'm a family girl. My mom is my priority because she's been through so much to take care of me and my sister. She is paying for both of us to go to "not-so-cheap" schools even though my family is not super-rich by any mean because she thinks it's the best she can do for us. So I'd feel the same way as you do.
 

Beauty Mark

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I think it's wrong everyone's putting pressure on you to make a decision. In this economy, job security is a major deal. Besides, you need to be happy.

You need to be honest with yourself and what you want. Your father should want you to be happy. Your boyfriend (and his family) should want you to be happy. If you need more time to heal and need/want to be at home, stay. It sounds like you have a lot of issues you need to work through. I don't think you should move if that's not what you want to do; you will probably grow to resent him and end up breaking up with him. I don't know if a long distance relationship is what you want, but it may come to that or breaking up.

I finally want to know if your boyfriend genuinely has tried talking to the loan people. His chances might be slim, but he needs to try and not assume what'll happen. My brother's loans got out of hand to the point that they contacted the co-signer, and even then, they were willing to work something out.
 

kaliraksha

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I agree with the above, do what is best for you. Your boyfriend and your dad are grown men and will handle whatever comes their way. You can't be responsible for taking care of their emotions, etc. At least your dad has your sisters. If you want to move, I like your friends idea and I would be looking for a job ahead of time.

Another idea, can your boyfriend move into your dad's house? Maybe your dad would agree if it means he gets to keep you at home and enjoy the company of another male? Do they get along?
 
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