Dogs, Not Chimps, Most Like Humans: Must Read For Dog Lovers!

amyzon

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Source: Article Featured on MSN Courtesy of the Discovery Channel

Chimpanzees share many of our genes, but dogs have lived with us for so long and undergone so much domestication that they are now serving as a model for understanding human social behavior, according to a new paper.

Cooperation, attachment to people, understanding human verbal and non-verbal communications, and the ability to imitate are just a handful of the social behaviors we share with dogs. They might even think like us at times too, according to the paper, which has been accepted for publication in the journal Advances in the Study of Behavior.

While there is no evidence to support that dogs and humans co-evolved their laundry list of shared behaviors over the past 10,000 to 20,000 years, the researchers believe adapting to the same living conditions during this period may have resulted in the similarities.

Lead author Jozsef Topal explained to Discovery News "that shared environment has led to the emergence of functionally shared behavioral features in dogs and humans and, in some cases, functionally analogous underlying cognitive skills."

Topal, who is based at the Institute for Psychology at the Hungarian Academy of Sciences, is one of the world's leading canine researchers. He and his team argue that dogs should serve as the "new chimpanzees" in comparative studies designed to shed light on human uniqueness.

"In my view, pet dogs can be regarded in many respects as 'preverbal infants in canine's clothing,'" he said, adding that many dog-owner relationships mirror human parental bonds with children.
In one of many recent studies conducted by the team, Topal and his colleagues taught both a 16-month-old human child and mature dogs to repeat multiple demonstrated actions on verbal command — "Do it!," shouted in Hungarian.

The actions included turning around in circles, vocalizing, jumping up, jumping over a horizontal rod, putting an object into a container, carrying an object to the owner or parent, and pushing a rod to the floor.
The dogs "performed surprisingly well and at a comparable level to the 16-month-old child," Topal said.

Multiple studies mentioned by the authors also support that dogs exhibit all three primary types of social behavior that humans evolved when they split from chimpanzees 6 million years ago. The first is "sociality," or organization into groups where members are loyal to each other and display reduced aggression.

getCSS("3088874")The second is synchronization, where following shared social rules and even taking on each others emotions helps to strengthen group unity. The researchers, for example, say that, "when approached by an unfamiliar person showing definite signs of friendliness and threat in succession, dogs show rapid changes of emotional and behavioral response in accordance with the human's attitude."

The third is "constructive activity," where individuals within a group cooperate and communicate with each other to achieve goals. Dogs can also distinguish rational from irrational human communications, Topal said.

The scientists additionally believe dogs are good models for human social behavior because studies can compare and contrast domesticated dogs with wolves, and then with humans.

Marc Hauser, a professor and director of the Cognitive Evolution Lab at Harvard University, fully agrees that dogs offer a good model for understanding human behavior.

The dog has come into its own as a great new model for understanding the mind in general, and the evolution of the human mind in particular," Hauser told Discovery News. "Not only have we lived with dogs for thousands of years, but because of this relationship, we have acted as an agent of selection to modify aspects of their behavior and minds."
"Now, perhaps for the first time, students of animal behavior, psychology, neuroscience, anthropology, philosophy and veterinary medicine will unite to provide deeper insights into the evolution of dogs and the evolution of humans," he added. "I for one am very excited about this opportunity, which is why we have followed the lead of other labs, and started our own dog lab!"
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MissResha

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regarding the "sense of fairness". i totally agree. my dog, i love him up all day long. but whenever my boyfriend comes around, he HAS to get in the middle of us and steal my attention away. its hilarious. he's like "get away from her, she's mine." amazing.
 

Shimmer

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My cocker spaniel is super protective of me, and will cheerfully jump between me and anyone I'm paying "too much" attention to. She's not snappish though, thank heavens. I'd have to punt her if she bit one of my kids.
 

amyzon

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regarding the "sense of fairness". i totally agree. my dog, i love him up all day long. but whenever my boyfriend comes around, he HAS to get in the middle of us and steal my attention away. its hilarious. he's like "get away from her, she's mine." amazing.

Haha mine too! She hates when my boyfriend and I want time alone and ignore her. She thinks she's the center of the universe. She is our baby so I think we may have encouraged the behavior to some extent.

I where they describe dogs as "pre-verbal infants". They really are inquisitive, infantile animals! I just loved finding out that there really are such close links between our social behaviors. Certainly nothing like CATS!
 

Mizz.Coppertone

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aww i treat my dogs like my lil babies. they are small breeds so it's hard not to. i get told all the time ''their just dogs'' whenever i feel bad about leaving them home or something. i can't help it though
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.i cried my eyes out when i had my daughter because it was hard to give them the same attention i always did, so whenever she'd fall asleep i'd be holding and hugging dogs lol i don't think i ever slept.
 

CosmePro

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Believe it or not I have FIVE toy poodles...all of them are my kids, I have to make sure to give attention to each of them separately or they get pissed at the one I pay more attention to. I even had to buy a bigger bed to accomodate them and my husband too LOL!

They totally understand and have a sense of whats fair and whats not...they make sure I do too
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kaliraksha

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You know what I hate? That we as humans have domesticated dogs... their sole intent and purpose is to please us. We turned them into scavengers instead of hunters. We are responsible for them needing human attachment, they rely on us. And still people don't stand up for them and against animal cruelty? People still tie dogs to trees and never give them any human interaction? Domesticated dogs have evolved to need humans and want to please humans and so many people don't take any responsiblity for owning a dog. Sigh.

I know this isn't a direct comment to your article, but the domestication part made me think of this. Thanks for the article. I love understanding new things about my dog.
 

amyzon

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You know what I hate? That we as humans have domesticated dogs... their sole intent and purpose is to please us. We turned them into scavengers instead of hunters. We are responsible for them needing human attachment, they rely on us. And still people don't stand up for them and against animal cruelty? People still tie dogs to trees and never give them any human interaction? Domesticated dogs have evolved to need humans and want to please humans and so many people don't take any responsiblity for owning a dog. Sigh.

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I know this isn't a direct comment to your article, but the domestication part made me think of this. Thanks for the article. I love understanding new things about my dog.




Ok, I really wanted to respond to your comment… First of all, I found it really strange that you seem to have this anti-domestication, PETA-esque (the organization’s core statement is that animals should not be domesticated or owned, period) philosophy about dogs, then revealed that you actually own one!!! LOL, anyway… Here are my thoughts.

The sole purpose of dogs is not to please us. When you consider the history of our coexistence, I really cannot even imagine our world without them. Sled dogs brought immigrants into North America thousands of years ago. They were on this continent before horses. Dogs helped our ancestors hunt.

In the modern age, they have given us the ability to develop vaccinations and other medical breakthroughs, assist the disabled, locate bombs and drugs, provide protection… Their contributions to our society aside, we have been mutual companions for thousands of years.

It’s just hard for me to understand how a couple of horrible people would negate the companionship and thousands of years of history our two species have had together. Of course there are terrible, terrible people out there that will abuse their animals… And there will be murders and rapists and child abusers as well. But for everyone of those scums of the earth there are countless loving, responsible pet owners that treat their animals like family as they deserve. And why wouldn't they oppose bad treatment of them! They have evolved while living closely along side us to become more socially intelligent than other domesticated animals. I feel that they coexist with us in a very symbiotic relationship. It’s hard to for me to believe it was an accident, or a mistake. They are so unique
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And that's my peace...
 

stronqerx

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Dogs are so smart, it's crazy. I kid you not, my dog understands english & spanish. I know there's some dogs trained to learn multiple languages, but my dog just sort of learned from hearing both languages. He is very protective of me and my family and our home, he's not vicious though, he's my gentle giant. Dogs are really hilarious too, from what I am reading it seems as though my baby isn't the only one who acts like a big jealous brat from time to time. Every now and then my moms comes into my bedroom at night to watch tv with me, and he's not allowed on my bed and he never comes on but when he sees her on my bed he proceeds to disobey and literally kicks her off. He lays down and starts to strech his leg and pushes her body off the bed, lmao.
 

kaliraksha

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Originally Posted by amyzon

Ok, I really wanted to respond to your comment… First of all, I found it really strange that you seem to have this anti-domestication, PETA-esque (the organization’s core statement is that animals should not be domesticated or owned, period) philosophy about dogs, then revealed that you actually own one!!! LOL, anyway… Here are my thoughts.

The sole purpose of dogs is not to please us. When you consider the history of our coexistence, I really cannot even imagine our world without them. Sled dogs brought immigrants into North America thousands of years ago. They were on this continent before horses. Dogs helped our ancestors hunt.

In the modern age, they have given us the ability to develop vaccinations and other medical breakthroughs, assist the disabled, locate bombs and drugs, provide protection… Their contributions to our society aside, we have been mutual companions for thousands of years.

It’s just hard for me to understand how a couple of horrible people would negate the companionship and thousands of years of history our two species have had together. Of course there are terrible, terrible people out there that will abuse their animals… And there will be murders and rapists and child abusers as well. But for everyone of those scums of the earth there are countless loving, responsible pet owners that treat their animals like family as they deserve. And why wouldn't they oppose bad treatment of them! They have evolved while living closely along side us to become more socially intelligent than other domesticated animals. I feel that they coexist with us in a very symbiotic relationship. It’s hard to for me to believe it was an accident, or a mistake. They are so unique
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And that's my peace...



Oh no, I'm not saying they shouldn't be domesticated... I'm quite happy that they are.. I'm saying that since we have domesticated them and when we choose to take a pet into our lives we should realize they have needs and a lot of those revolve around being dependent on a human.

I also agree that they are unique and helpful to humans. However, I believe that they are that way for two reasons, 1) they need a sense of purpose, they are pack animals that use to work for their food, and 2) we've trained them to help us and to give them jobs and it's been successful because they want positive reinforcement. Studies have been done that say dogs are more attune to a humans eyes than other animals, they watch for their eye cues and signals even better than an ape can because they are consistently looking for cues and reinforcement from humans. They seek a pack, like they would in the wild, and when they don't have one they rely on their humans.


Edit: I realized that it was probably my obsessive misuse of ellipses that caused me to come off like I hate the domestication alone.
 

RockStar

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My dog is super friendly and will great anybody but i noticed if i pass near a drunk person or someone who looks scary at night she will release one single bark at them. I just thought she can "smell" my fear but now i understand she's just reading my behavior. That's why I'm a dog person! They're so understanding!
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ashk36

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Working in a dog grooming shop I can't help but see how much like children our dogs are. I see jealousy, a sense of humor, and even impatience. If you're on the floor petting one dog, 9 times out of 10 every other dog in the shop is gonna come over and get in your face like, "Helloooo!! I'm cute, too!! Pet me!!" We have dogs that smile. They show every tooth in their mouth, and it is not an angry thing. We had a westie who would only smile for us whenever he came into the shop. He wouldn't even smile for his owner! She had to bring her friend in with her one day to prove it! I saw something on animal planet about the whole eye contact thing with dogs. There were 2 cups turned upside down. One had a treat, the other did not. The trainer showed a chimp with her eyes which had the treat, and the chimp didn't get it after many tries. The dog got it immediately. Pretty cool. Could you tell I'm a dog lover? Yeah just a lil bit.
 

amyzon

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Studies have been done that say dogs are more attune to a humans eyes than other animals, they watch for their eye cues and signals even better than an ape can because they are consistently looking for cues and reinforcement from humans. They seek a pack, like they would in the wild, and when they don't have one they rely on their humans.

I've read about this too!!! What's really amazing about this is, not only do they learn to watch for indicative eye contact better than chimps, but much better than wolves! It seems it has may have to do with their evolution in close contact with our species.
 
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