i guess a good work ethic isn't a good thing
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nelyanaphonexia
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Sorry that you feel so bad at work.
I can understand not liking your workplace. I'm right there with you. 'Cept that my co-workers who are all older than me and perm. (I'm student help) talk about me and call me names and now have everyone at our office hating me and threatening my job and graduation date/scholarship, etc.
So I can understand how you feel. Sometimes, one person can make all the difference. Sorry all I can offer is a
I hope it gets better though.
I know I can't wait to find a new job...it just feels like five years down the tube is a waste of my hard work and time.
Oh well...
So I can understand how you feel. Sometimes, one person can make all the difference. Sorry all I can offer is a
I know I can't wait to find a new job...it just feels like five years down the tube is a waste of my hard work and time.
coachkitten
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Sorry to hear that things at work are going so crummy! Overtime things will get better if you just keep your mind on what you need to do at work.
We're here for you if you need to vent though!
macslut
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Does your boss have a boss that you can go to? I mean, if s/he is open to communication. If the escapades are of a sexual nature and they are making you uncomfortable, that can be construed as sexual harassment. Yes, even if it is not directed at you personally, it is still sexual harassment. At this point you can escalate as your supervisor was not responsive. Get thee MAC lovin butt to HR preferably corporate HR. Also, document, document, document! Document the offensive behavior, time and date.
I have been in jobs like this. It actually was a catalyst for me to study workplace issues.
I have been in jobs like this. It actually was a catalyst for me to study workplace issues.
Beauty Mark
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Where on earth do you work? What kind of boss cares more about you all getting along than getting your work done? That shit should get his ass fired. I bet he only takes on that attitude because he knows you and others will get the work done.
I would definitely talk to HR and possibly your boss's boss. You probably can't do anything about how she dresses, but I think you can do something about her interpersonal skills and definitely about her work ethic. I think your boss should be reprimanded
I would definitely talk to HR and possibly your boss's boss. You probably can't do anything about how she dresses, but I think you can do something about her interpersonal skills and definitely about her work ethic. I think your boss should be reprimanded
juicygirl
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omg i have the same exact problem at my work!! not trying to take away from your post kimmy but let me give you a little background. i working at a doctor's office, where i have been for the last five years. we had a girl who worked there for like nine months only and then quit because she said that she didn't like the way i spoke to her and that i always bossed her around. it sucks because the thing is, she's 42 and i am 25 so instantly people say how its hard for older people to take orders from someone who's younger than them and blah blah blah. i am very good at what i do and if i see someone who's not pulling their weight and just sitting there, doing absolutely nothing, you better believe i am going to tell you to help a patient, etc. i don't know why the age card is always pulled because it's like age discrimination in reverse!! but seriously, i looovve the doctors other than that because they are really awesome people and i do like my job but i also often feel so underappreciated because of my age and whatnot. blah. hang in there kimmy. i hope my situation kind of makes you feel better because i know reading your post did make me feel better because it just reminds me that there's assholes like that working everywhere and for some reason, most management don't want to deal with personnel issues. =[
elegant-one
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Is this an episode of 'The Office'
Just wanted to cheer you up. I feel really bad for you having to get up & go to work knowing you have to face this. Just continue to do the right thing & maybe think of finding something else or transferring if thats at all possible. You deserve better. What a jerk to work for.
Just wanted to cheer you up. I feel really bad for you having to get up & go to work knowing you have to face this. Just continue to do the right thing & maybe think of finding something else or transferring if thats at all possible. You deserve better. What a jerk to work for.
MACATTAK
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Hmmmm...he doesn't have something going on with this girl; does he?
The situation sucks. You can't control her, or your boss, but you can control what you do & how you react to things. Continue working hard like you do. Don't think about her & what she is or isn't doing. If you can speak to someone higher up than your boss, do so. If not, be the best person you can be at your job. I'm sure you aren't the only person who notices this & won't be the last to speak up.
The situation sucks. You can't control her, or your boss, but you can control what you do & how you react to things. Continue working hard like you do. Don't think about her & what she is or isn't doing. If you can speak to someone higher up than your boss, do so. If not, be the best person you can be at your job. I'm sure you aren't the only person who notices this & won't be the last to speak up.
CantAffordMAC
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I hate how people brush off things I say or treat me like a child because Im young. grrrrrr
I hope things get better for you.
c00ki312
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i have the EXACT same problem at work. ive been at my place for nearly 3 years and staff who have started after me have progressed to a higher position which boils my blood cuz ive worked so hard for them to notice my work and even do little favours like staying back later but still i get nothing in return. wheares, theres this lil blonde girl at work who gets away with murder. every friday she comes in and complains of 'stomach pains' and my managers let her fuck off and do what the hell she likes while eveyone is gettin yelled at to get back to work. wtf?! im waiting till the end of the month when they owe me a holiday. gona take the holiday then quit. atm, 4 ppl have left the job so i just want to see them suffer!
sorry i wasnt trying to make this 'my thread' but the OP is right, there is always fuckers like them in every workplace. you could take it to head office or the big boss and hopefully it should be resolved. other than that, keep your head down and get on with it. life sucks! like they say, good guys finish last!
sorry i wasnt trying to make this 'my thread' but the OP is right, there is always fuckers like them in every workplace. you could take it to head office or the big boss and hopefully it should be resolved. other than that, keep your head down and get on with it. life sucks! like they say, good guys finish last!
kimmy
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thanks for all your input, ladies.
i'm still a little bummed because i really had higher standards for my work place...shit, for my entire department.
buuut...i talked to my boss's boss yesterday about what's happening with my promotion and everything...he said he's working on it. i really hope something happens soon because i don't want to transfer. alot of the people there have been really good to me and i don't want to leave them, but dang a chick can only take so much, right?
i felt a little bit better yesterday, i guess because i know i've been bested, so i'm not really in limbo with the problem anymore. it's kind of sad in a way, but i just kept telling myself to hold out a little longer.
buuut...i talked to my boss's boss yesterday about what's happening with my promotion and everything...he said he's working on it. i really hope something happens soon because i don't want to transfer. alot of the people there have been really good to me and i don't want to leave them, but dang a chick can only take so much, right?
i felt a little bit better yesterday, i guess because i know i've been bested, so i'm not really in limbo with the problem anymore. it's kind of sad in a way, but i just kept telling myself to hold out a little longer.
Brittni
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So sorry Kimmy. BEST of luck to you!
(my vent...LOL)
try working in a LAW OFFICE where the two legal secretaries (21 and 19 yr old) are constantly on the phone, going into attorney's offices and shutting the door to talk/scream on it, and bring loads of drama to the office. some of which include being pregnant, baby daddy cheating, 19 yr old moving in with a coke-head "boyfriend" after knowing him a week-- and taking out her 1.5k 401k plan to pay for it then moving out 3 weeks later, 19yr old calling work with the exact quote of "im soooo fucked up" and slurring her words because she was drunk and didn't call in until after 10 am that day, yeah I could go ON and ON. this is all within the past 3 months too.
mind you they also were our "cleaning service" since we switched buildings. all they would do is sit back in our dept. and b&tch about how they weren't gonna do this task or that task b/c they didn't get paid enough to...they were supposed to WASH out the big trash can 1x a month and never did. it reeked of cigs so bad that it was hard to breathe, even they knew it/said something, every day. finally they got fired from that job about 2 days ago but they still work here with their CRAP work ethic.
They don't even hand out faxes anymore. Which, isn't my job to do, but I'm doing it. And I wouldn't mind calling on balances (what they do) just to get my feet in the water in case I ever went elsewhere but at the same point I don't want to HELP them do absolutely nothing.
I've actually been keeping a record/log of anything I notice (walking around, talking on phone about their personal drama, etc) and after the next meeting which is next week if the attorney/managers don't lay into them then I think shortly after I'll go with my compiled list and a paper to the manager. then if she doesnt do anything I might have to go to an attorney b/c think about how it makes the whole firm look? it's embarassing...
the only thing they could possibly have against me is that I spend a lot of time on the internet. true, but that's when all of my work is done, no faxes to pass out, and there is nothing else to do. (i have to wait for my assignments to come in at various times)
oh. and they LOVE to blast rap like lil wayne and stuff -- which i love, OUTSIDE OF WORK -- while they are answering client phone calls.
(my vent...LOL)
try working in a LAW OFFICE where the two legal secretaries (21 and 19 yr old) are constantly on the phone, going into attorney's offices and shutting the door to talk/scream on it, and bring loads of drama to the office. some of which include being pregnant, baby daddy cheating, 19 yr old moving in with a coke-head "boyfriend" after knowing him a week-- and taking out her 1.5k 401k plan to pay for it then moving out 3 weeks later, 19yr old calling work with the exact quote of "im soooo fucked up" and slurring her words because she was drunk and didn't call in until after 10 am that day, yeah I could go ON and ON. this is all within the past 3 months too.
mind you they also were our "cleaning service" since we switched buildings. all they would do is sit back in our dept. and b&tch about how they weren't gonna do this task or that task b/c they didn't get paid enough to...they were supposed to WASH out the big trash can 1x a month and never did. it reeked of cigs so bad that it was hard to breathe, even they knew it/said something, every day. finally they got fired from that job about 2 days ago but they still work here with their CRAP work ethic.
They don't even hand out faxes anymore. Which, isn't my job to do, but I'm doing it. And I wouldn't mind calling on balances (what they do) just to get my feet in the water in case I ever went elsewhere but at the same point I don't want to HELP them do absolutely nothing.
I've actually been keeping a record/log of anything I notice (walking around, talking on phone about their personal drama, etc) and after the next meeting which is next week if the attorney/managers don't lay into them then I think shortly after I'll go with my compiled list and a paper to the manager. then if she doesnt do anything I might have to go to an attorney b/c think about how it makes the whole firm look? it's embarassing...
the only thing they could possibly have against me is that I spend a lot of time on the internet. true, but that's when all of my work is done, no faxes to pass out, and there is nothing else to do. (i have to wait for my assignments to come in at various times)
oh. and they LOVE to blast rap like lil wayne and stuff -- which i love, OUTSIDE OF WORK -- while they are answering client phone calls.
macslut
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Are you a supervisor? Because, it you aren't, it has nothing to do with age. Peers should not be giving peers orders. And if doesn't matter how much longer you have been there...if you hold the same position, then you don't have that authority. It is ok to ask someone to do something but they have a right to say no even if you think they are not doing anything. Are there other reasons you feel underappreciated besides your age? As I understand it from your post, there is no real personnel issue on your part. Now, if this woman was actively trying to unload her work onto you, that would be a situation you would have to take to your supervisor, and if they are not responsive, to someone higher. (And actually a great way to draw attention to the situation if someone is trying to unload work they are supposed to be doing onto you is to not do it. A good boss will have set out very clearly what is expected so that individual will get into trouble. Of course, that depends if the person has been taught how to be a good boss which unfortunately, is not always the case.)
I have dealt with employees who think they get to tell others what to do because of how long they have been there. That is a situation I take care of very quickly. I am also the employee who will bend over backwards for someone if they ask me nicely but I will laugh in their face if they think they can bark orders at me.
Originally Posted by juicygirl
omg i have the same exact problem at my work!! not trying to take away from your post kimmy but let me give you a little background. i working at a doctor's office, where i have been for the last five years. we had a girl who worked there for like nine months only and then quit because she said that she didn't like the way i spoke to her and that i always bossed her around. it sucks because the thing is, she's 42 and i am 25 so instantly people say how its hard for older people to take orders from someone who's younger than them and blah blah blah. i am very good at what i do and if i see someone who's not pulling their weight and just sitting there, doing absolutely nothing, you better believe i am going to tell you to help a patient, etc. i don't know why the age card is always pulled because it's like age discrimination in reverse!! but seriously, i looovve the doctors other than that because they are really awesome people and i do like my job but i also often feel so underappreciated because of my age and whatnot. blah. hang in there kimmy. i hope my situation kind of makes you feel better because i know reading your post did make me feel better because it just reminds me that there's assholes like that working everywhere and for some reason, most management don't want to deal with personnel issues. =[ |
Are you a supervisor? Because, it you aren't, it has nothing to do with age. Peers should not be giving peers orders. And if doesn't matter how much longer you have been there...if you hold the same position, then you don't have that authority. It is ok to ask someone to do something but they have a right to say no even if you think they are not doing anything. Are there other reasons you feel underappreciated besides your age? As I understand it from your post, there is no real personnel issue on your part. Now, if this woman was actively trying to unload her work onto you, that would be a situation you would have to take to your supervisor, and if they are not responsive, to someone higher. (And actually a great way to draw attention to the situation if someone is trying to unload work they are supposed to be doing onto you is to not do it. A good boss will have set out very clearly what is expected so that individual will get into trouble. Of course, that depends if the person has been taught how to be a good boss which unfortunately, is not always the case.)
I have dealt with employees who think they get to tell others what to do because of how long they have been there. That is a situation I take care of very quickly. I am also the employee who will bend over backwards for someone if they ask me nicely but I will laugh in their face if they think they can bark orders at me.
macslut
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PLEASE take this to the attorneys...they have a vested interest in the image that their employees are presenting. If I were to walk into my attorney's office (or any attorney's office for that matter) and had to hear the abridged version of the Jerry Springer Show, I would either talk to the attorney myself or walk out which equals lost business. If this attorney has lost business, I am pretty sure that little Miss Thangs will not be around much longer.
I seriously want to bake you cookies for documenting what is going on!
You have become one of my favorite people. You would really be surprised about how many people want to file complaints and they have done no documentation...even after you tell them! Keep up the good work, my dear! Keep up the escalation!
| Originally Posted by Brittni
So sorry Kimmy. BEST of luck to you!
(my vent...LOL) try working in a LAW OFFICE where the two legal secretaries (21 and 19 yr old) are constantly on the phone, going into attorney's offices and shutting the door to talk/scream on it, and bring loads of drama to the office. some of which include being pregnant, baby daddy cheating, 19 yr old moving in with a coke-head "boyfriend" after knowing him a week-- and taking out her 1.5k 401k plan to pay for it then moving out 3 weeks later, 19yr old calling work with the exact quote of "im soooo fucked up" and slurring her words because she was drunk and didn't call in until after 10 am that day, yeah I could go ON and ON. this is all within the past 3 months too.
mind you they also were our "cleaning service" since we switched buildings. all they would do is sit back in our dept. and b&tch about how they weren't gonna do this task or that task b/c they didn't get paid enough to...they were supposed to WASH out the big trash can 1x a month and never did. it reeked of cigs so bad that it was hard to breathe, even they knew it/said something, every day. finally they got fired from that job about 2 days ago but they still work here with their CRAP work ethic. They don't even hand out faxes anymore. Which, isn't my job to do, but I'm doing it. And I wouldn't mind calling on balances (what they do) just to get my feet in the water in case I ever went elsewhere but at the same point I don't want to HELP them do absolutely nothing. I've actually been keeping a record/log of anything I notice (walking around, talking on phone about their personal drama, etc) and after the next meeting which is next week if the attorney/managers don't lay into them then I think shortly after I'll go with my compiled list and a paper to the manager. then if she doesnt do anything I might have to go to an attorney b/c think about how it makes the whole firm look? it's embarassing... the only thing they could possibly have against me is that I spend a lot of time on the internet. true, but that's when all of my work is done, no faxes to pass out, and there is nothing else to do. (i have to wait for my assignments to come in at various times) oh. and they LOVE to blast rap like lil wayne and stuff -- which i love, OUTSIDE OF WORK -- while they are answering client phone calls. |
PLEASE take this to the attorneys...they have a vested interest in the image that their employees are presenting. If I were to walk into my attorney's office (or any attorney's office for that matter) and had to hear the abridged version of the Jerry Springer Show, I would either talk to the attorney myself or walk out which equals lost business. If this attorney has lost business, I am pretty sure that little Miss Thangs will not be around much longer.
I seriously want to bake you cookies for documenting what is going on!
juicygirl
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yes, i hold a higher position than her...
| Originally Posted by macslut
Are you a supervisor? Because, it you aren't, it has nothing to do with age. Peers should not be giving peers orders. And if doesn't matter how much longer you have been there...if you hold the same position, then you don't have that authority. |
yes, i hold a higher position than her...
mymakeuproom
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UGH sounds like my job. I'm so sorry you are going through that.
Brittni
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Thank you so much for your support and kind words.
It really means a lot to know that I'm not wrong for thinking that these two girls are completely out of line and need to be fired or reprimanded more than they have been, as apparently the manager;s assistant claims these girls are on thin wire...how thing does it have to get?
ITA about the lawyers and their images. Imagine if the 21 y/o was in oldest lawyer (he usually only comes in on mondays now) office screaming to her cheating bf... They are VERY lucky because we are back in our own area so a lot of their poor ethic goes unnoticed. Until I bring my notes to management (in a very well put together and mature manner, of course!) I just make sure to mind my own P's & Q's; not being late, helping out when I can, staying neutral, etc.
I'm sure the one girl has the pity card now that she's knocked up LOL (for the second time, same guy, right after he got out of jail - which he is always in & out of, mind you lol) but regardless these girls either need to be split up (because they completely enable e/o's bad behaviors) or just canned.
Not to mention their topics of discussion aren't usually work appropriate. Joking about selling drugs for money, all their Jerry Springer issues, sex talk, etc. Last week they were talking about sex spots and I said to them they needed to be quieter (I didn't want to hear it, wasn't in the mood you know.) when the 19 y/o said "why? nobody cares." and i said "i do..." she said "well 21 y/o, i guess we can't have our normal discussions now can we." it was like...so immature. lol. which these girls so obviously are. Also, the 19 y/o constantly cusses (even at clients once she's off the phone with them and frustrated) even after the new partner in the firm asked everyone to refrain from saying the f-bomb. (I'm 19 too, and we're COMPLETELY different. I hold myself to way higher standards and have class, tyvm... so this really bothers me cause I don't want to get grouped by age!)
I understand sometimes we slip up, nobody is perfect, and we can talk and have fun at work (which we do!) but they just wayyy over-do it.
| Originally Posted by macslut
PLEASE take this to the attorneys...they have a vested interest in the image that their employees are presenting. If I were to walk into my attorney's office (or any attorney's office for that matter) and had to hear the abridged version of the Jerry Springer Show, I would either talk to the attorney myself or walk out which equals lost business. If this attorney has lost business, I am pretty sure that little Miss Thangs will not be around much longer. I seriously want to bake you cookies for documenting what is going on!
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Thank you so much for your support and kind words.
ITA about the lawyers and their images. Imagine if the 21 y/o was in oldest lawyer (he usually only comes in on mondays now) office screaming to her cheating bf... They are VERY lucky because we are back in our own area so a lot of their poor ethic goes unnoticed. Until I bring my notes to management (in a very well put together and mature manner, of course!) I just make sure to mind my own P's & Q's; not being late, helping out when I can, staying neutral, etc.
I'm sure the one girl has the pity card now that she's knocked up LOL (for the second time, same guy, right after he got out of jail - which he is always in & out of, mind you lol) but regardless these girls either need to be split up (because they completely enable e/o's bad behaviors) or just canned.
Not to mention their topics of discussion aren't usually work appropriate. Joking about selling drugs for money, all their Jerry Springer issues, sex talk, etc. Last week they were talking about sex spots and I said to them they needed to be quieter (I didn't want to hear it, wasn't in the mood you know.) when the 19 y/o said "why? nobody cares." and i said "i do..." she said "well 21 y/o, i guess we can't have our normal discussions now can we." it was like...so immature. lol. which these girls so obviously are. Also, the 19 y/o constantly cusses (even at clients once she's off the phone with them and frustrated) even after the new partner in the firm asked everyone to refrain from saying the f-bomb. (I'm 19 too, and we're COMPLETELY different. I hold myself to way higher standards and have class, tyvm... so this really bothers me cause I don't want to get grouped by age!)
I understand sometimes we slip up, nobody is perfect, and we can talk and have fun at work (which we do!) but they just wayyy over-do it.
