"Kramer" has lost his mind

Indigowaters

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Originally Posted by little teaser
what is the solid definition of "cracker" please explain i never understood why black people use that word refering to white people it sounds soooo ghetto

Ghetto (just thought I'd give this definition too, since people use it to describe things that have nothing to do with the subject) -
Etymology: Italian, from Venetian dialect ghèto island where Jews were forced to live, literally, foundry (located on the island), from ghetàr to cast, from Latin jactare to throw -- more at [SIZE=-1]JET[/SIZE]
1 : a quarter of a city in which Jews were formerly required to live
2 : a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure
3 a : an isolated group <a geriatric ghetto> b : a situation that resembles a ghetto especially in conferring inferior status or limiting opportunity <the pink-collar ghetto>

Cracker - 1 chiefly dialect : a bragging liar : [SIZE=-1]BOASTER[/SIZE]
2 : something that makes a cracking or snapping noise: as a : [SIZE=-1]FIRECRACKER[/SIZE] b : the snapping end of a whiplash : [SIZE=-1]SNAPPER[/SIZE] c : a paper holder for a party favor that pops when the ends are pulled sharply
3 plural : [SIZE=-1]NUTCRACKER[/SIZE]
4 : a dry thin crispy baked bread product that may be leavened or unleavened
5 a usually disparaging : a poor usually Southern white b capitalized : a native or resident of Florida or Georgia -- used as a nickname
6 : the equipment in which cracking (as of petroleum) is carried out
7 : [SIZE=-1]HACKER [/SIZE]4

There's even a place here called "Cracker Country" at our fairgrounds which goes back to a time when the word was originated. It just carried on from there. But I hate when people say that's so "ghetto", because usually the first thing that comes to mind is black people, but as you can see from above it didn't start there.
And btw I hate the C-word too, it's the equivalent of the N-word.
 

little teaser

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Originally Posted by Indigowaters
Ghetto (just thought I'd give this definition too, since people use it to describe things that have nothing to do with the subject) -
Etymology: Italian, from Venetian dialect ghèto island where Jews were forced to live, literally, foundry (located on the island), from ghetàr to cast, from Latin jactare to throw -- more at [SIZE=-1]JET[/SIZE]
1 : a quarter of a city in which Jews were formerly required to live
2 : a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure
3 a : an isolated group <a geriatric ghetto> b : a situation that resembles a ghetto especially in conferring inferior status or limiting opportunity <the pink-collar ghetto>

Cracker - 1 chiefly dialect : a bragging liar : [SIZE=-1]BOASTER[/SIZE]
2 : something that makes a cracking or snapping noise: as a : [SIZE=-1]FIRECRACKER[/SIZE] b : the snapping end of a whiplash : [SIZE=-1]SNAPPER[/SIZE] c : a paper holder for a party favor that pops when the ends are pulled sharply
3 plural : [SIZE=-1]NUTCRACKER[/SIZE]
4 : a dry thin crispy baked bread product that may be leavened or unleavened
5 a usually disparaging : a poor usually Southern white b capitalized : a native or resident of Florida or Georgia -- used as a nickname
6 : the equipment in which cracking (as of petroleum) is carried out
7 : [SIZE=-1]HACKER [/SIZE]4

There's even a place here called "Cracker Country" at our fairgrounds which goes back to a time when the word was originated. It just carried on from there. But I hate when people say that's so "ghetto", because usually the first thing that comes to mind is black people, but as you can see from above it didn't start there.
And btw I hate the C-word too, it's the equivalent of the N-word.


thanks for breaking it down girl i just never understood any of those words and i guess i thought calling something ghetto was like some one saying your country so now i know and as far as the cracker thing goes it really never bother or got under my skin when ever that word is use cause i really never understood "why"
 

ChynaSkye

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Originally Posted by ♥MiCHiE♥
"Kramer" is funny.....Michael Richards is an asshole. He was totally out of line, but the funniest line was by one of the hecklers, because he ain't shit without "Seinfeld". Paul Rodriguez hit the nail on the head....he said a real comedian would know how to handle a heckler. Michael Richards is just an actor. I see why he's more famous as "Kramer".

exactly what I was going to say!
great minds think alike lol ;-)
 

Shimmer

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
He went beyond that. I believe he said something like Jews cause all the wars and problems in the world, which is a crock. It was pretty big rant.

But wasn't Richards sober when he went off?
 

kimmy

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Originally Posted by Uchina
We now have a solid definition of "Cracker" on video.
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I want him on welfare in 6 months.


by calling him a "cracker" you aren't much better than him, IMO.
 

kimmy

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this video shows BOTH sides of the exchange, clearly Richards is not the only one with a fiery mouth. i wonder why nobody's pissed off about these guys using racial slurs against whites? initial reports said that the men started this exchange by throwing racial slurs at Richards, calling him "a no good cracker" and that's what set him off..but nobody's blaming them for anything? strange.

warning: this video contains racial slurs that may be inappropriate or offensive. watch with descretion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU8mLXXQ6fA

i'm not saying that Richards was right...i'm just saying, you get what you give. don't walk around throwing racial slurs if you're going to get offended when someone uses one against you.
 

MiCHiE

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That's the same video that's been aired. The altercation apparently started before that, when the group of men arrived late for the show and interrupted his act and he began going off. It doesn't matter who started what, the language on both sides was unnecessary and brutal.
 

kimmy

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i totally agree with you Michie, i just can't for the life of me figure out why everyone is blaming Richards and calling him a racist pig for what he said, but...nobody seems to hold anything against the men who were calling him a "white-ass cracker"
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it just seems a little unfair to me. what they all said was inappropriate, i just don't think that Richards should be judged more harshly than anyone else involved.
 

MiCHiE

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"Cracker" will never be as bad as "Nigger". It just won't. I don't use either. It's just ignorance and both parties are wrong.

I just have to add.....I can't even think of a word that equates, cancels out or even comes close to "nigger" and I use a lot of foul language. The word just has too much behind it.
 

Shimmer

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I disagree.
Cracker is every bit as offensive to a white person, particularly one from the South.
Too much behind it? Actually, were the research to be done, it would be found that calling someone "po' white trash" was and is more offensive than calling someone "nigger" as on the social caste system the slaves were above the poor whites.

Either way, it's all ridiculously improper.
 

MiCHiE

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^Not that I disagree, but I've heard tons of white people (and blacks) call whites "po' white trash", but not "cracker", which is what I based my statement on. Not that I haven't heard black folks call each other "nigger"....It's just that you don't get that **gasp** when you hear the other words. Even on the tape the reaction to "nigger" and "cracker" were quite different.

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Originally Posted by Shimmer

Either way, it's all ridiculously improper.


Couldn't agree more.
 

Indigowaters

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Originally Posted by THE ANTHEM
i totally agree with you Michie, i just can't for the life of me figure out why everyone is blaming Richards and calling him a racist pig for what he said, but...nobody seems to hold anything against the men who were calling him a "white-ass cracker"
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it just seems a little unfair to me. what they all said was inappropriate, i just don't think that Richards should be judged more harshly than anyone else involved.


I believe you are mistaken. The men called Richards that "after" he went off on a rant. It's on the video tape. They came in with a mixed crowd of caucasians, blacks and asian people and apparently were talking to the waitresses when he went off because he felt he was being interrupted. No one is saying what they said is right, but I probably would have done the same thing in the heat of the moment if I was being racially and verbally attacked for no reason. And they weren't the ones on stage holding the microphone. No it wasn't right for the guy to retort back with that, but tell me if you were in that situation, you wouldn't have done the same thing. I think somebody just wants to play devil's advocate.
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Indigowaters

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Originally Posted by Shimmer
Eh. It's okay to be racist against white people it seems.

No it's not, but we deal with things like this everyday and overlook them because we're always given the "sensitive" card by people who don't want to deal with the "Quiet Racism".
 

little teaser

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i totally understand why people are upset what he did was rude and uncalled for and he really was hurting him self more than anything i dont understand 'why" you say he cant take it back, but it was name calling not murder he reach out to the black leaders and people and apologize and admit that what he did was wrong and everyone at one time or another has been guilty of some type of name calling is it that unforgiveable and now these people want money for damages gee so now we can sue when we get called names people really need to get thicker skin
 

little teaser

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and the people that say theres no takeing it back have the same unforgiveness in there hearts that have kept racisim "ALIVE"
 

Indigowaters

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No. The ones who keep racism alive are the ones that commit these acts. There may be forgiveness in time, I don't know. But I don't think his apology was sincere. I think it was given out of backlash from the Black community. It was even reported on the news that he had gotten a PR with "strong ties to the Black community". Why is that? Because he did damage to his career that he's trying to fix. He could care less about what he said, because it was from the heart. I just think he thought more people would back him, and when they didn't he took it back.

P.S. B.S. on thick skin still smells like B.S.
 

little teaser

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HUN^^ call it want you want because names dont bother me and i dont hold a grudge everytime some one offends me or calls me a cracker i just think there ignorant and i dont see white people going nuts when there called names it makes no sense like i said people really need to get thicker skin!!
 

Indigowaters

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I don't either. But I'm not going to say that their being offended or holding a grudge isn't justified. He also went after them after he got offstage and kept repeating that. He took that to a level beyond where it should have gone. Had he come after me, I would have taken legal action too. No one should have to put up with that kind of mentality and those actions in this day and age. This isn't the plantation anymore.
 
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