Hi All,
The lime crime thing has peaked my interest so I researched it for a few days and here is, what I believe, the 'truest' story I can find.
Why do people attack her so much?
It started way before lime crime existed. It was a personality clash between a few people who had started a group and she was one of them. she went on to grow a successful business, the others didn't they were pissed off with her. The original post that was ordered to be removed and embroiled in the solicitor's letter etc, was actually posted by one of the people involved in the original clash, was not based on any facts whatsoever and was very emotive.
I've read, reread just about everything out there on this, and here's the summary.
It's a personal clash that was taken too far, pure and simple. The claims made in that post were not based on facts, they were based on loose vague 'see that proves it' kind of thing and really clutching at straws when it came to citing so called proof in later posts about the video that was made of xenia or doe deere with the chemists.
That video was a PR move. Plain and simple, which anybody in a business attracting negative attention for whatever reason would obviously do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, anyone who wants to hang on to the so called proof of that pr video must believe all the instant magic claims on tv ads they see and rush out and buy them too. Seriously guys, I'm writing this to get some perspective.
I am in Australia, and as was pointed out in a previous post we don't have the same options here as you do in the US. The prices here on lipstick is pretty much on par with New Zealand, in some cases more. I've bought the lipstick from lime crime and been very happy with it. Several colours, even the green lol (for a costume ... just thought i'd clarify) and ALL of them do exactly what they say. I;ve had mine for over a year, they are still as easy to glide on, look shiny and great, and don't have any of the dried out problems I"ve seen stated on various blogs.
What I can say is that I believe from my research on the subject that the first launch may have been flawed however they have been improved since then, and a long time ago. The stigma that is following this, that is still raging (I know this is an old post that I am replying to but it's still an issue) is ONLY related to the personality clashes that happened long before lime crime was even born. Unfortunately there are so many people who are easily led and readily believe things without researching the topic, that the blogs are full of people saying they won't buy lime crime because of the drama.... which personally I think is just very very unfair. Whether you like her or not from afar having not every met her, should not have any emotive impact on the product itself. I prefer to make my own decisions, and base them on FACT rather than hysterics and drama.
The reason I say its unfair is that the 'drama' was started by someone who had a personal beef with her, but turned it into something else and did it publicly. For LIme Crime as a business to respond to that, I don't believe is being dramatic, its a business, they had no choice purely because of the mass hysteria that grew from it. So to say 'i'm not going to buy that company's products' based entirely on mass hysteria is, well, not the best decision shall we say. Reason and Logic should apply. Ignore the mass blogging hysteria and try the product yourself, if you don't like it don't buy it. But I feel the negative consequences of basically blacklisting a company purely on the basis of personal vendettas that should NEVER been made public is very dangerous. Not just to lime crime, but to ANY small business, artist, or ANYONE who has the guts to give it a go.
Does this mean that because you had a fight with someone, you should expect people not to shop with your business based on their blogging? Reverse the situation, put yourself in the business chair, and this woman, who i have never met by the way, is in a lose lose situation. she is bagged no matter what she does. she blinks too much? who cares lol!!!!!!!!!
The original blogs are still on the internet to see and read, even descriptions of the entire scenario in detail of the clash that happened and why, and are written by the actual people involved. This is why I feel that I have the 'truest' version of the whole scenario. Doe Deere wasn't even doing makeup at that time, she was sewing!
From my point of view, in Australia there is NO option for any other product available that is as cheap and good as lime crime lipsticks, especially the colours. Anything less than about $25 a tube here means total crap so the price is very attractive for us, as it is in New Zealand. Actually I bought it before I knew of the hype, and am glad I did as I can speak from my experience.
BTW, incase your wondering why I spent days researching this, its simple. I am starting my own business and was considering at the time stocking lime crime lipsticks. when i went googling it, i saw all the drama and thought uh oh and looked right into it.
By decision... its all BS and means nothing as far as the product goes. I am going to stock it, integrity is VERY important to me, and regardless of the drama I believe in the product, plus any question of integrity of LC in my humble opinion, after spending so long researching it and looking for facts, the only facts i found was the person clash. Everything else either just wasn't backed up, was emotive and baseless, or contradicted my personal experience with the product itself.
I wanted to share this with everyone, purely because I did spend a LOT of time on this, and my findings are based on the evidence presented which is not something that is actually spoken about very often in this whole thing, and it took me ages to dig it all up because it started so so many years ago. I was assessing it for my own business, so I was very thorough and rational, and uncovered a lot of information from the 'horses mouths' that is never brought up in blogs on this issue.
I hope this reaches anyone who may be considering whether or not to buy the product, I'm not saying buy it, I'm simply saying don't NOT buy it based on the hype.
cheers
trine
