alexisweaver
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No, what happened?
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Dolly Snow
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Ooh what happened?
alexisweaver
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Oh I saw that but didn't bother to read the comments! I'm reading them now and just Googled up on Doe Deere. And DAMNNNNNNNN is all I will say. I'm still gonna buy Lime Crime stuff though. I didn't know her name was really Xenia?
jchait
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Basically, she posted on her IG a screenshot of her calling some girl a dumbass for questioning the question of whether or not all of her products are vegan or not. Chaos ensued, people either backing Doe or calling her a bully for outing that girl via social media, calling her a dumbass, posting the girl's screen name. So I did some research, and there is A LOT of bad press about Doe. She seems to be a bully to people that don't like her products, and she regularly threatens people with lawsuits who right not so shiny reviews. Yikes
alexisweaver
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That really sucks. I wonder if she's going to respond to all of this.
DILLIGAF
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Her response was that she is not Disney and then followed that with a screencap of KVD calling someone out over her manicure. *insert eye rolling smiley here*
Seriously she needs to be a bit more professional. Especially considering the history her company has had.
Uptownbackinit
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Was it the whole nail polish fiasco?
alexisweaver
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I'm reading this Tumblr blog about all the things Doe Deere has done (I won't post it but it's an easy Google search)…..
You know I always wondered why Temptalia never reviewed or talked about the new Lime Crime product, especially since it's so popular. Now my question has been answered….
You know I always wondered why Temptalia never reviewed or talked about the new Lime Crime product, especially since it's so popular. Now my question has been answered….
DILLIGAF
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The nail polish this was Doe's way of saying "look other people are doing it." I think they are different situations in my opinion.
Uptownbackinit
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Oh okay that was the kat von D screencap, That seemed like a different situation too. Kat von D's seemed more warranted. Doe deere should've addressed the Vegan comment more professionally.
Either way I don't think any person should respond to negativity via social media. It only spawns more and more negativity.
emberdarling
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yess I saw it and was like wow. I already knew all about the scandals I'm surprised more people dont know about it...I Read the comments on her IG post and it seems a lot of people were surprised to learn her history. I don't support her for this reason and I was thinking about getting the clueless witch products but after this I'm back to not wanting to support her. Who conducts themselves that way? You should be professional, period. Specifically online when your whole business IS online.
I hate to make the comparison because they are always compared but Amy/shrinkle of sugarpill would have never acted that way.
I hate to make the comparison because they are always compared but Amy/shrinkle of sugarpill would have never acted that way.
alexisweaver
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I finished reading that Tumblr blog and Doe seems a bit possessive, and excuse me for saying, but also a little crazy. I know I said earlier I'd still buy LC but I kind of don't want to now. The way she handled the stuff on ig is pretty immature for a 30 something year old.
vaisforluvrs
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I follow Doe Deere so I watched some of this unfold. I commented, as the "devils advocate" because people kept commenting on how this person didn't do anything wrong. It could be considered slander, as there are lots of people who could potentially not buy products based on this comment alone. I don't agree with the way she commented; calling this person a dumbass was not necessary. But I sort of can see where she is more in the right to make a comment rather than Kat von d who responded nastily based on a superficial comment on her nails. In Doe's case, she was defending her company which is her livelihood.
It sometimes pains me how so many people don't do their research and believe everything they read on the internet. Someone can say that the company isn't cruelty free and some people will completely believe it, even if it isn't true, and will boycott the company.
It sometimes pains me how so many people don't do their research and believe everything they read on the internet. Someone can say that the company isn't cruelty free and some people will completely believe it, even if it isn't true, and will boycott the company.
erine1881
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I guess you ladies don't/won't buy Melt lipsticks either then, cuz Lora responds the same way. I have no problem with a company owner standing up for their brand when people spit out uneducated nonsense. But that's just me.
emberdarling
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I haven't bought any Melt and didn't know anything about it but would be interested in learning. But as I said I already had the opinion before this. I understand standing up for your brand but you can do so without calling someone a dumbass and then ON TOP of that, screenshotting it to post on your own instagram? Super immature. And it may be nonsense but there has been a lot of controversy in the past about whether or not her products were vegan, and whether or not she lied about it. I don't know all the dirty details but they are out there so it's something to consider. Like I said this isnt the only instance...if it was just about this I would think it was rude but brush it off. But when someone consistently shows bad business practices then yeah I don't want to give them my business. I think that's perfectly logical lol.
Edit: I don't judge anyone else for still buying. It's just not a company I really want to give my money to. People can improve though so I hope I can feel comfortable supporting in the future.
erine1881
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And that's completely fine. I don't buy from Makeup Geek because of a hypocritical statement Marlena made a year or so ago, and i refuse to support and follow a MUA that said something uneducated and irresponsible about a mental illness. We all have our standards, and there's nothing wrong with, just as long one is equal across the whole board.
emberdarling
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True!
alexisweaver
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I totally agree, Erine. I'm all for standing up for yourself but there's ways to do it and I think how it was handled was immature. I'm not specifically mad at Doe for calling her a dumbass (because let's be honest some people are) but she didn't need to then go screen cap it and post it for people to leave nasty comments (VERY LOOSE TERM) to the girl that said it. I'm more so not into LC anymore from what I've been reading about her other previous incidents, not so much the specific comment. I don't know much about Melt but do have lipstick from them. If they're the same way, I wouldn't want to give my money either. But like @emberdarling said, people change and can improve.I follow Doe Deere so I watched some of this unfold. I commented, as the "devils advocate" because people kept commenting on how this person didn't do anything wrong. It could be considered slander, as there are lots of people who could potentially not buy products based on this comment alone. I don't agree with the way she commented; calling this person a dumbass was not necessary. But I sort of can see where she is more in the right to make a comment rather than Kat von d who responded nastily based on a superficial comment on her nails. In Doe's case, she was defending her company which is her livelihood.
It sometimes pains me how so many people don't do their research and believe everything they read on the internet. Someone can say that the company isn't cruelty free and some people will completely believe it, even if it isn't true, and will boycott the company.
Yes, I can understand that!
Quote: Originally Posted by erine1881
I guess you ladies don't/won't buy Melt lipsticks either then, cuz Lora responds the same way. I have no problem with a company owner standing up for their brand when people spit out uneducated nonsense. But that's just me.
You ladies are both right and make good points.
erine1881
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That's why i don't follow what people do personally. All I've heard was the rumour of the repackaging or whatever, but that's all it's ever been, a rumour. I don't think anythings ever been proven, not that I'm aware of anyway. I haven't heard of any other scandalous things with her company. If it's a colour/product i like, I'll buy it. What the owner does or says is their business. If it drags their name thru the mud and scares off customers, than that's their doing. It's something i have to think about as a business owner myself. But if someone says something negatively and incorrect about my business, I'll call em a dumbass, maybe worse. Will i put it on social media? Probably not. Unfortunately, not everyone thinks about those types of things.
