ok fellow specktra girls and guys,i need your advice

[prppygrl69]

ok.so this jan. i was sposed to go to aveda for cosmetology,but i think im changing my mind to be an esthetician(skin instead of hair,nails,and skin like in cosmetology)cuz you only learn really bout hair being a cosmetologist.my mom thinks im craaazy cuz i wanna do that and then go into doing make up.maybe even a mac artist!thats my new years resolution hehe.i need some insite on what yall think.im not sure what i wanna do i might regret it either way.::

:: pwease help meh

 

[Isis]

You know I thought that my family would think I was nuts too wanting to do this, so I held off for a long time to go to school for it. Actually my family is extatic about it

I'm sorry to hear your mom doesn't think it's a great idea though

If you go to school for Esthetics your will learn SO much more about skincare and everything related to it (diseases, precautions/contraindications, histology, techniques, knowledge of ingredients, etc), and yes makeup too, than if you just went to a cosmetology school. I just graduated from my school this summer and I have to say it was an amazing experience! I loved every minute of it.
I now work for Elizabeth Arden Salon/Spa @ Saks 5th Avenue

I actually have way more knowledge about things than the other estheticians that work there b/c of my specific training (even though they've been there for years). It really shows because I am now the go to person when it comes to all questions related to skin be it from clients, co-workers, or the other estheticians. And my boss has me overseeing everything in that department.

I think you should do it!

 

[joytheobscure]

I think esthetics is a better choice because of the growing popularity of spas etc. I think you made the right choise. You have to make yourself happy in your life.

 

[Pink_minx]

I think you should go for it, just as long as you are happy with what you are doing! I myself really wanted to go to FIDM cause i love fashion! but my family was like "you wont go to far with that!" instead they wanted me to go to a regular college and major in business, the pressure was hard and right now I am going to a regular college trying to major in business. bleh not to happy with it, so do what you want its your life you tell yourself what you want to do and not other peoples. I think what you want to do is great you should go for it.

 

[prppygrl69]

thank you girls sooo much,i do love dealing with hair,.....but the thing is and i know is sounds kind of childish,but doing hair is such a huge responsibility like if i mess it up im the type thatll cry if someone bites my head off,i dont want that kind of pressure on my shoulders ya know cuz i know how i am when ppl do my hair thats why i do my hair myself now.i was goin to paul mitchell,but im transferring to aveda cuz i think this paul mitchell was a fake seriously theres o much i could say but i wont lol.im getting so much more into skin care nowadays im not that interested in hair care anymore.plus im a very soft spoken person,more the type youd see in a spa ya know,im not loud like some cosmetoligists.spas would be more me and a calm invironment i feel,thatd be better for me.thanks fairladyz i showed my mom what you said,she was like omg prissy im so sorry,i thought you were just talking bout make up i didnt know.but ne ways this is getting long lol.so just wanted to tell you all thanks for the encouragement!

 

[KMFH]

What campus are u thinking of going to (out of curiosity - im in laf., and went there for esthetics). Not to sure where slidell is and just wondering of your closer to covington or here.
As far as going to aveda for esthetics, while they may have gotten better (although from what i hear a lot, i doubt it), they should stick to what they know, and thats hair. Pretty sure most anyone in the industry, or who has ever used their skin care can vouch for this.
As far as taking esthetics for to have a background in MU, that wont do u any more good than going for hair. I think we spent like one week on makeup, and it was rediculous. Infact going for hair may even be better as you will know how to do both, which in starting off freelancing, is a big plus - if u also have a talent for hair. Almost like being a "double-threat". Ive been working (doin pretty well for myself, if i do say so myself) as a makeup artist for quite some time now, and have learned that unless you are trying to work in a salon doing makeup, the licence it self is somewhat unneciccary (sp?).
Sure its a huge plus to know about skin, but if your dedicated enough, go from what u learn there, and strive to learn more on your own, as i said, they dont do skin so well at aveda.
Also, watch out for the skincare products there, as they will tell u at orientation, "your skin will purge itself while using the products," your skin should never purge. Aveda uses too many natural and essential oils in their skincare range, and adversly effects your skin.

Not tryin to bring u down or anything, just tryin to let u know some valuble info (imo at least) from someone who has been there and done that so to speak. At any rate, do what makes u happy, and whats right 4 u, not anyone else!
Dont hesitate to ask me anything about the school or course there, ide be glad to help.

 

[prppygrl69]

thanks babe,i live closer to cov. between cov. and pearl river. like 20 mins away from picaune miss. but in cosmetology we spent a day wich was app. 3 hrs on make up application and tones and that stuff which i already knew so i didnt pay attention lol,but dermalogica came in and we spent a whole day with them learning bout skin care and their line i dont like their line it made me break out,but skin care was so much more interesting to me for some reason,and as a cosmetoligist you learn EVERYTHING about hair and ONLY the basics on skin and nails which sucks to me.were you that interested in esthetics?cuz if not you just might have had a hard or bad time ya know.i already called mah lady at aveda n left her a mess.ill talk to her bout it,and thanks again

 

[Tyester]

I'm not real sure on the problem, but my only advice is:


Do what you want, you've only got one life to live.

 

[user3]

Is it possible for you do both?

 

[prppygrl69]

no either hair skin and nails....skin.....or nails sucks huh

 

[user3]

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Originally Posted by prppygrl69 no either hair skin and nails....skin.....or nails sucks huh

Go with Skin.


You can always take the Hair skin nails later.

 

[prppygrl69]

yes yes but esthetics takes 6 month,cometology takes 12 months :-(,my parents are worried bout me not making enuff money,i guess they just dont get it,they need to visit here for like an hour n then theyll get why i wanna do that so bad

 

[user3]

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Originally Posted by prppygrl69 yes yes but esthetics takes 6 month,cometology takes 12 months :-(,my parents are worried bout me not making enuff money,i guess they just dont get it,they need to visit here for like an hour n then theyll get why i wanna do that so bad

LOL

Maybe if they can talk with somone about both and get a feel what they can offer. I know what your parents mean. If you are rounded in all three areas it can be easier to find a job.
Keep in mind that you are young and will have time to do both. Maybe not having your parents pay for both but...you can still do it in time.
Maybe have your parents go down to the school and talk with someone. Being a parent I have to be honest if my son came to me with a similar situation I would want him to take the more well rounded courses so that he could have more than one thing to fall back on.
I just want to point out that hair is not boring!

 

[prppygrl69]

i know ive always loved doing hair but recently im getting into skin care,i should go for cosmetology so i wont regret it my sis is a nail tech n she tells me she regrets it everyday,and if i want more then i can always go to classes.i didnt think bout that till now lol.i just dont wanna transfer my hours to aveda cuz pual mitchell is being a huuuuuge fart,their sayin i never went there and i have no hours with them but thats ok i have proof,i keep all my papers

 

[Isis]

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Originally Posted by prppygrl69 thanks fairladyz i showed my mom what you said,she was like omg prissy im so sorry,i thought you were just talking bout make up i didnt know.but ne ways this is getting long lol.so just wanted to tell you all thanks for the encouragement!

That's so sweet!! I'm very happy to hear you mother has had a change of heart on your situation

I really hope you that you do get into a good school for esthetics because it will make all the difference in the world!
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Originally Posted by prppygrl69 esthetics takes 6 months, cometology takes 12 months :-(, my parents are worried bout me not making enuff money,i guess they just dont get it,they need to visit here for like an hour n then theyll get why i wanna do that so bad

You mean not making enough money working in the field? It's actually very very good money depending on where you manage to get your foot in the door. But it'll also depend on how they pay you. It can be strictly comission for your services & product sold; or hourly/salery + comission, which is deffinitelly better. There might be another option in there too but I can't think of it. You will deffinitelly need ALOT of patience when you're first starting out at any salon/spa as the other estheticians will hold seniority over you (since you'd be new). You'll have to build your own clientel base and will probably be relying on walkins and new customers for a while.
Dermalogica would be a good place to train, one of my teachers started her training & career there and enjoyed it very much. At my Elizabeth Arden training course we had a couple of girls that started at Aveda and they really liked it there too. So either one would be nice I'm sure. I went to Von Lee which is a privately owned and run by Carol Walderman here in MD.

(god I can't spell today....LOL)

 

[prppygrl69]

lol somedays i cant spell either and i wind up editing my post like 8 times lol,but thank you very much.but just to make sure i wont have to spend extra money i dont have and time,dont want to regret not going into cosmetology,i think im goin in the march cosmetology class at aveda,im psyched,so that way ill get training in everything and like zap2it said ill have something to fall back on,i already have like 20 ppl waiting for me to get in and do their hair when im on the clinic floor,so im building up a clientel wherever i go! yay! i just thought less time and less money to have to spend but i can do skin and make up on the side as well as hair,which was my first love since i was 4,really.i really do appreciate it fairladyz,but just to be one the safe side ill do the whole thing,and get more moolah! lol.thanks everyone!!!!

 

[Isis]

Hookt on foniks workt for mee

It's whatever you want to do babe! As long as YOU are happy

That's all that matters.

 

[Pink_minx]

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Originally Posted by prppygrl69 thank you girls sooo much,i do love dealing with hair,.....but the thing is and i know is sounds kind of childish,but doing hair is such a huge responsibility like if i mess it up im the type thatll cry if someone bites my head off,i dont want that kind of pressure on my shoulders ya know cuz i know how i am when ppl do my hair thats why i do my hair myself now.i was goin to paul mitchell,but im transferring to aveda cuz i think this paul mitchell was a fake seriously theres o much i could say but i wont lol.im getting so much more into skin care nowadays im not that interested in hair care anymore.plus im a very soft spoken person,more the type youd see in a spa ya know,im not loud like some cosmetoligists.spas would be more me and a calm invironment i feel,thatd be better for me.thanks fairladyz i showed my mom what you said,she was like omg prissy im so sorry,i thought you were just talking bout make up i didnt know.but ne ways this is getting long lol.so just wanted to tell you all thanks for the encouragement!

huh whats wrong with paul mitchell why is he a fake I'd like to know! lol cause im using his products.

 

[prppygrl69]

no not paul mitchell,well actually its not the guys name paul died and was friends with the guy with the last name mitchell or something or vise versa.i was told that in school,the guy that owns the company himself isnt fake lol,i was meaning the school they have like 3 names,first it was paul mitchell,then academy of creative hair design,theeeeen it was vanguard,they make me confused you know what i mean,personally i dont like paul mitchell products they dried out my hair and fried iti had to cut like 4 inches off from my hair after using their products,but no the guy that owns the company is not a fake lol no worries,i was talking bout the "paul mitchell" school i went to

 

[Pink_minx]

ohhh lol i see now. ok ok I thought there was something bad about him. I didnt even know he died and im using his products seesh.