Pornography wrong or right?
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dollbabybex
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so yeah you all think im terrible cos i love porn?
arent i just bein honest?
arent i just bein honest?
thestarsfall
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I agree with the thought that nude modelling and porn are completely different.
I personally wouldn't have a problem modelling nude (once I am comfortable with my body anyways...). I wouldnt want my parents looking at it, but then I dont want my parents knowing everything about my life either...
The human body, and IMO the female body especially, are works or art, whether you believe in a God creator, or in evolution, they are the end result of a process and they are vauled and beautiful. I think it would be kinda silly to just completely cross out nude modelling because one akins it to porn.
But then there is also the actual picture, if it is just a nude, then its fine. If its a nude posing in a way to enhance the sexual aspects then its borderline porn. If its a nude posing with like touching of self and such, then its softcore porn. And if theres anything completely explicit and like penetrative its hardcore porn. But then if its just pics of you and boyfriend and husband for you and a select few (very select) to enjoy then its still art, but i think as soon as you publish it anywhere it then becomes porn.
Argh, this is confusing me as I have a migraine...
I personally wouldn't have a problem modelling nude (once I am comfortable with my body anyways...). I wouldnt want my parents looking at it, but then I dont want my parents knowing everything about my life either...
The human body, and IMO the female body especially, are works or art, whether you believe in a God creator, or in evolution, they are the end result of a process and they are vauled and beautiful. I think it would be kinda silly to just completely cross out nude modelling because one akins it to porn.
But then there is also the actual picture, if it is just a nude, then its fine. If its a nude posing in a way to enhance the sexual aspects then its borderline porn. If its a nude posing with like touching of self and such, then its softcore porn. And if theres anything completely explicit and like penetrative its hardcore porn. But then if its just pics of you and boyfriend and husband for you and a select few (very select) to enjoy then its still art, but i think as soon as you publish it anywhere it then becomes porn.
Argh, this is confusing me as I have a migraine...
MarniMac
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If you love porn, then love it honey! No shame...I have a hard time getting over the objectification of women in porn...especially pterodactyl porn lol.
Originally Posted by dollbabybex
so yeah you all think im terrible cos i love porn? arent i just bein honest? |
If you love porn, then love it honey! No shame...I have a hard time getting over the objectification of women in porn...especially pterodactyl porn lol.
Hawkeye
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All I gotta say is-if you like Porn you probably wont be sent to hell. LOL
I mean as long as its consentual and legal I have no problem with it. Even though I do automatically think of bimbos in the movies. Sorry!
I mean sex is just an act of nature. if people want to video it-that's what they want to do-but its just much more fun if it's celebrities and it gets all over the internet LOL
I mean as long as its consentual and legal I have no problem with it. Even though I do automatically think of bimbos in the movies. Sorry!
I mean sex is just an act of nature. if people want to video it-that's what they want to do-but its just much more fun if it's celebrities and it gets all over the internet LOL
d_flawless
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just like prostitution, no one is being forced to do anything.
if you want to objectify yourself, go for it. sure some don't see it that way, but a lot of people do, and you're gonna have to deal with it either way...sorry, it's just not a "respected" profession by any means.
if you want to objectify yourself, go for it. sure some don't see it that way, but a lot of people do, and you're gonna have to deal with it either way...sorry, it's just not a "respected" profession by any means.
Bernadette
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This is a really interesting subject. I was asked to model for a very well known photographer in San Diego earlier this year. His work is beautiful but it contains a lot of insinuated nudity (as in nude but covering with hands, hair, etc.) and some topless shots and bum shots.
I actually said no based on the fact that I didn't want to be grouped in with the shots that are in my taste, more about nudity than art. I would have been fully clothed but I just didn't want to be part of a project that contained some of the work that it did. I think there is such a thing as artistic photos that are nude but there is a clear difference between that and "here are some boobies." Not my style and I don't want to be precieved that way, especially for the sake of my boyfriend and Mom and stuff. I wouldn't want it to be like "oh yea Bernadette is on that website with all the naked chicks." type of thing.
Anyway.... as far as what your'e talking about, most of the pin-up photography I see isnt' nude, there is a lot of lingerie but not much nudity. When you decide to cross that line and take nude pictures, you can never go back. It is something that can effect you for the rest of your life. It's amazing how many people could potentially see something like that, especially with the internet. With photographs it's too easy for them to fall into the wrong hands and be mis-used. People can basically represent you however they choose.
A friend of a friend took pictures with a photog that she knew and trusted (she wasn't nude) and the picture was later found on a greeting for a porn site. It was stolen off of the photog's website. You don't want someone stumbling across something like that and just assuming the rest of the site contains more of you, a lot more of you!
As for the other subjects of porn stars and such, I don't have the energy to get into that right now
I actually said no based on the fact that I didn't want to be grouped in with the shots that are in my taste, more about nudity than art. I would have been fully clothed but I just didn't want to be part of a project that contained some of the work that it did. I think there is such a thing as artistic photos that are nude but there is a clear difference between that and "here are some boobies." Not my style and I don't want to be precieved that way, especially for the sake of my boyfriend and Mom and stuff. I wouldn't want it to be like "oh yea Bernadette is on that website with all the naked chicks." type of thing.
Anyway.... as far as what your'e talking about, most of the pin-up photography I see isnt' nude, there is a lot of lingerie but not much nudity. When you decide to cross that line and take nude pictures, you can never go back. It is something that can effect you for the rest of your life. It's amazing how many people could potentially see something like that, especially with the internet. With photographs it's too easy for them to fall into the wrong hands and be mis-used. People can basically represent you however they choose.
A friend of a friend took pictures with a photog that she knew and trusted (she wasn't nude) and the picture was later found on a greeting for a porn site. It was stolen off of the photog's website. You don't want someone stumbling across something like that and just assuming the rest of the site contains more of you, a lot more of you!
As for the other subjects of porn stars and such, I don't have the energy to get into that right now
GalleyGirl
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What about the women owned porno companies and women directed pornos? Are they taking the industry into their own hands, or are they uknowingly consipiring with the men to objectify women?
I think if women feel more comfortable expressing their interest in porn, it wouldn't be such a male dominated thing (assuming then that there is porn marketed to women's interests).
I think if women feel more comfortable expressing their interest in porn, it wouldn't be such a male dominated thing (assuming then that there is porn marketed to women's interests).
MxAxC-_ATTACK
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A friend of mine did some nude modeling.. it ended up on the internet, and her BROTHER found it!! eeek!!
The convo went like this
HIM-"YOU WHORE WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THIS SITE!!"
HER- "YOU ASSHOLE WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT INTERNET PORN!"
It was an unfortunate , but it just goes to show. that your pictures really can end up everywhere. and in anyones hands!
The convo went like this
HIM-"YOU WHORE WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THIS SITE!!"
HER- "YOU ASSHOLE WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT INTERNET PORN!"
It was an unfortunate , but it just goes to show. that your pictures really can end up everywhere. and in anyones hands!
Beauty Mark
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It isn't more or less moral. It's a fact of life that a company may not want to hire you if they think you're not projecting the right image. For instance, people have lost beauty pageant crowns because of the posing (I believe it was Vanessa Williams.) That's just one example. I think it could definitely happen to men as well in the porn industry.
I'm not saying it's right. You have to be practical, though. It's like it isn't right that I have to be careful what is affiliated with my name on the Internet, but it's practical in case a hiring person does a Google Search on me.
| Who is more moral? The model, or the viewer? Why is it ok for men to view porn. But not moral for women to pose for it? |
It isn't more or less moral. It's a fact of life that a company may not want to hire you if they think you're not projecting the right image. For instance, people have lost beauty pageant crowns because of the posing (I believe it was Vanessa Williams.) That's just one example. I think it could definitely happen to men as well in the porn industry.
I'm not saying it's right. You have to be practical, though. It's like it isn't right that I have to be careful what is affiliated with my name on the Internet, but it's practical in case a hiring person does a Google Search on me.
little teaser
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| Originally Posted by THE ANTHEM
as long as everyone involved agrees with/to it, i don't see why it's such a big issue. live and let live. |
DaizyDeath
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Yeah i can see how that would be embarassing to some people but to tell you the truth if I think i would be embarassed and not able to show my family it then i would never do it.
Even when/if I ever do nude or pinup photos ill show my family. Id rather include them into my life then shut them out and like you said them find out from somebody they dont even know. Plus its an added sense of security to have your familys support knowledge and love.
But im just an open person in general like when me and my dad pass sex stores we make jokes about it like its nothing beacuse it really isnt anything to us.
| Originally Posted by MxAxC-_ATTACK
A friend of mine did some nude modeling.. it ended up on the internet, and her BROTHER found it!! eeek!! The convo went like this HIM-"YOU WHORE WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THIS SITE!!" HER- "YOU ASSHOLE WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT INTERNET PORN!" It was an unfortunate , but it just goes to show. that your pictures really can end up everywhere. and in anyones hands! |
Yeah i can see how that would be embarassing to some people but to tell you the truth if I think i would be embarassed and not able to show my family it then i would never do it.
Even when/if I ever do nude or pinup photos ill show my family. Id rather include them into my life then shut them out and like you said them find out from somebody they dont even know. Plus its an added sense of security to have your familys support knowledge and love.
But im just an open person in general like when me and my dad pass sex stores we make jokes about it like its nothing beacuse it really isnt anything to us.
MAC_Whore
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Pornography...wrong or right?
Ahhh, a question for the ages. Here's my opinion.
If they are ugly, it is wrong.
If they are hot, it is right.
I personally have an appreciation for good porn. I will say that one of my huge pet peeves is soft core porn. What a waste of film!
Oh, and the pterodactyl porn made me laugh so hard! That is frickin ridiculous! Who...I mean...you know.....watches that?
Ahhh, a question for the ages. Here's my opinion.
If they are ugly, it is wrong.
If they are hot, it is right.
I personally have an appreciation for good porn. I will say that one of my huge pet peeves is soft core porn. What a waste of film!
Oh, and the pterodactyl porn made me laugh so hard! That is frickin ridiculous! Who...I mean...you know.....watches that?
