Ramble of the centuary: Looooong post concerning "Friends"

PomPoko

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Ugh, I hate feeling like I'm bringing the drama llama, and acting all victim-y, but I need to rant/get outside perspective on this.

Ok, so first some background info..I have a few close friends, but one thats the closest is my friend Hayley. I've known Hayley since I was 4 years old, shes a bit immature at times, (and shes the first to admit this) but a genuinely nice, honest person.

The other is Jo, we've known her since we were 11, and made close friends with her probably about the age of 13ish. At this point there was another girl as well, Rebekah, and that was our "group." Jo has always been two faced, Rebekah is easily led, none of us particularly talk to her anymore, for various reasons. Anyway, Jo has hung around, we're still "friends" but I've decided I've had enough of her.

Ever since we've been friends, she has bitched about me behind my back, about almost anything you can think of. Main topics being Appearance/Family/Significant Others. Let me describe some of the things she's done over the years. Some are from when we were teenagers, but in fairness its kind of piled up into a large ball of resentment/anger/sadness. Healthy. Anyways:

- The worst one in my book was the time I had a sleepover for my birthday (aged about 14) and she and rebecca decided to sit on my loft bed and spit at me and hayley and another girl kirsty from above, and all over my bedroom. And I'm not just talking one or two "globs" but they went on at length, while we hid under sleeping bags because we didn't want spit on us.

-Same birthday they stole a watch that was a present from my parents (an expensive one at that) and pretended like someone had stolen it from the P.E safety box. They only returned it when I started crying in the middle of class, because they kept ribbing me about it. They claimed it was only a joke though, so it was meant to be ok!

-Threw money at me (sounds silly but it hurts when 1p, 2p and 20p pieces hit you with force
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-Stood me up with no real explanation, repeatedly. I may be many things, but when I make arrangements with someone, unless I'm unwell I will honour them, yet she thinks nothing of not turning up, without letting you know. Once she broke up with her boyfriend so I chucked out my plans for the next day to meet up with her, and waited, for an hour or so in the rain for her to turn up. Turns out they'd got back together that morning, and she'd gone to town with him instead and had been wondering around the town centre (which is where I was) for an hour while I stood there like a mug. But! Oh noes! she'd had her phone on silent so she'd not gotten my texts or calls! The fact we'd made plans for a specific time/place on that day didn't mean squat to her. (sorry this was recent! rargh!)

And, yes, Rebecca was involved at times, but she was basically Jo's mini-me, doing whatever she could to make herself look cool in Jo's eyes, and if that meant being horrible to her other friends, then so be it.

Then theres the behind my back comments. Its hard to forget when someone has been picking on your flaws and the things you've been sensitive about for years. Even when I weighed 125lbs she would think nothing of telling people that didn't even know me well I was fat (in front of Hayley again).

Its all come to a head today, because Hayley has told me the most recent things that she's said about me. The first being that she does not plan to "make the effort" with me any more since apparently I don't bother with her. This is because the only time she really gets in contact with me is about an hour or so before she'd like to meet up, and a lot of times I'm busy. I don't work, but apparently she thinks I sit in the house doing sod all all day, waiting for someone to ask me to do something. As a last resort, of course! So naturally, most times i have said a polite, sorry I am busy, so no thanks. Other than that its when her older sister invites loads of people out and Jo wants to look like shes super popular to her older sisters "cool" friends. This is why I've not seen her much recently.

The second thing, which does not surprise me, but hurts nonetheless, is she made a crack about my weight. I weigh about 190lbs. I'm under no illusions that I'm thin, and I could be a lot healthier. She knows I've been trying to do something to get healthier and lose weight, and that I'm unhappy with my weight. Anyway, she seems to think it appropriate to say that i am "the fattest person in the cinema lobby" to my best friend. Then she actually thinks that Hayley won't tell me. Truth is, Hayley has told me everything she has said over our ten year long friendship, I just haven't had the backbone to say anything till now. But at 23 years of age I'm utterly fed up of feeling like a 13 year old every time Hayley tells me the newest things Jo has said. The last few times I've kept vowing to myself that I'm going to say something to her, but I always chicken out. But now is the time.

But, how do you break off a 10 year long friendship? Its really not easy! which is part of the reason its taken this long. But I can't deal with it anymore. I want to tell her what I think of her. I've written a rough draft of a letter, which I'd planned to send in email form. I know it seems cowardly, but its not because I'm scared particularly, but I actually think I'd lose it completely and start ranting and shouting at her if I had to say it to her face. And we all know how much people can take in when you're screaming it at them. I know more than anything she'd act like she is the victim, because she is notorious for that. Is this a terrible thing to do? I mean its not quite a text message breakup...

I don't know if my letter is too harsh in places, or if I should even care after the way she's made me feel. Part of me wants to be the bigger person and just say my piece without throwing in anything that seems remotely rude, but then part of me thinks maybe that's what it's going to take to get it into her head that she can't treat people in the way she does, whilst calling them a best friend. A similar thing happened between her and Rebecca, and she completely acted like Rebecca was being silly and that she'd done nothing wrong (she had) but Rebeccas letter was quite polite and short, compared to some of the things mine says.

I'm sorry this is wordy, has run-on sentences, and excessive use of quotation marks. I'm tired, but can't sleep and need to rant. My boyfriend is great but as a man, his advice is "I love you whatever, she sucks, just don't be friends anymore" like its that easy, and I can just stop thinking about it. But ultimately I don't think I can just let it go knowing she thinks shes ditching me, without saying anything to me. Because, as childish as it sounds, I don't think I've been even half as bad a friend as she has been to me at times, so why should she get to be the one that has the last say in it? Ugh I actually want to *punch* myself in the head for that one! I can't help it though!

Well, thanks if you've made it this far, I hope I haven't knocked you out with boredom. And for all my ranting, I'm actually really sad about it at the moment, not at all helped by he fact I've been feeling more down about my weight these last couple of weeks so it kinda stings that little bit more.

*goes to flump about*

ETA: I know I misspelled century. Its 6.30am here, I've been up for 24 hours that = stupid.
 

XShear

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Wowness. I'm sorry for all this mess and so called friendship for the last so-many years. I've had friends like this and the best way to deal with them is just to let them slowly drift off your back. Stop calling, stop making plans, and eventually you'll grow apart. Or you can tell her straight up. It depends on the person. But really, you deserve much better in a friend.
 

alien21xx

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What she said. I couldn't even get past the part where they spat on you. And on your birthday... I mean it's supposed to be in fun, but the last person who tried to do that to me, I chased with a burning cigarette and threatened to burn their face if they ever did that to me again.

I'm rooting for you to end it, and you know, it doesn't matter if you're being harsh. That type of treatment for 10 years deserves harshness. The way she treats you, that's not the way friends should be treated.
 

Girl about town

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Hi chick this person is not a friend so it shouldn't be hard to end the friendship!!! She sounds jealous of you and very insecure herself, but personally i wouldn't want someone like that in my life. You should surround yourself with people who make you happy, i had a really toxic friend but once i got rid of her my self esteem has never been better. Just confront her!! Ask her why she feels the need to talk and bitch about you?? and ask her what her problem is!! Then simply tell her you don't feel you can be friends with somone who apparently hates you.
 

Jot

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Big hugs to you. These people really don't sound like friends and you'd be better off without them. Either send the letter as you planned or just stop contacting them and when/if they contact you just say your busy. Eventually they'll get the message.

Also don't be down on yourself you are so beautiful and i love your style and look.
 

SparklingWaves

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I typed a reply back to you and I got kicked out of the system. Computers??

I will make this fast.

It appears that you have grown internally and are re-evaluating your relationships.

Jo is a relationship that has given you a lot of pain over the years. Rebekah has been no support to you.

If you write a letters, don't give them out. Just do them to process your own feelings.

Question if you really had a friendship with Jo. Friendship is based on mutual respect and trust.

How you want to end this is up to you, but do it in a way that brings you peace and respects both parties. You may not need to do anything, but allow things to fade away. It's really up to you.

BTW- I make a lot of errors in my posts. I don't look for grammar in posts. I am not an English teacher. What I care most about are your feelings. Peace to you.
 

nunu

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Hugs to you girl!! My advise to you is to not contact Jo at all i think she'll get the picture that way. I can't beleive the horrible things she's done to you!
you are such a beautiful girl! i look at your fotd's and think WOW! You don't need people around you who make you feel like Sh*t!
Hope everything goes ok with you.
take care
 

*Stargazer*

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These people are not good for you. Personally, I'd just stop contacting them and not respond when they contact me. Move on. You deserve friends that are about you!
 

PomPoko

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Thanks everyone, for your kind words and advice. Its always good to know that there are genuine, friendly types in the world!

I know that I need to stop being friends with her, I've known it for years. Like everyone says, I should probably just let it fizzle out, the problem is is that my family is friends with her family, I'm sort of friends with her older sister, and I feel bad for dragging hayley along with me. And I don't think i just want to stop contacting her. I might just write her a short, to the point email and let it go. I won't miss her friendship at all, because, even though I don't have a huge amount of friends, the other ones I do have, want me to be happy.

I think Hayley is past the point of caring about being friends with Jo, as Jo has always been not so nice to her as well, but with Hayley she does it to her face. I can never work out if thats worse or better! Hayley is the only person I've ever really known to just say "look you're a being horrible, just stop" and Jo I've seen Jo *beg* for them to be friends again. See thats another problem. Jo is incredibly insecure, and for some reason in my mind I was like "but thats the reason she does it, not cos shes horrible" but it is, she is horrible, because shes insecure! And even though I'm insecure at times, I *never* bitch about people that are meant to be my best friends. I mean I'm not going to pretend like I've never spoken behind someones back, but not at this length or in a way thats likely to upset them and knock their self confidence. And I certainly don't do it to make myself feel better about my insecurities!

Jo has started work somewhere, and has made a few new good friends, but I kind of feel angry that they think shes so sweet and lovely. Because I know thats how people percieve her...I hope they never have to find out what shes truly like in the same way I did, as I *think* shes actually nice to them. I can't work out why she still thinks its ok to be horrible to me. Probably because I've let her get away with it for so long!

Thanks for listening (again) you guys rock
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Girl about town

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people only do what you let them do to you. Next time she makes you feel bad tell her!! then she will be under no illusions to why you aren't friends any more xxxxx
 

SingFrAbsoltion

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Unfortunately I also know how it feels to have bad friends. But it was easier to ignore them because we were only friends for a couple of years...
I'll call them A and B. I'm pretty insecure about myself at times and they are really pretty girls.And the two of them became so close I always felt like the third wheel. And they knew how I felt and it was almost like they were ignoring me on purpose. We all ended up in the came college and A and B became really close. They knew that we all have pretty much the same breaks during the week, and after 2 weeks they stopped calling me at break time. Since I was already uncomfortable around them I didn't bother calling. A calls me on weekends when B is busy because she's bored. But if we make plans and B calls her, she forgets about me and never apologizes. I gave her a chance and that's exactly what happened.

So you know what, you're better off without them. I mean I feel a bit lonely sometimes but it's better than feeling like crap because of how your "friends" treat you.
 
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