Sean P.Diddy Colmes fashion line sells Dog Fur Coats

little teaser

Well-known member
Quote:
Originally Posted by amoona
Ok seriously calm down! I personally wear fur, tough shit I don't care I like it. I don't do it because I'm narcissistic or I'm insecure haha that's way off. If I see something I like I buy it, whether it's real fur or fuax fur or no fur at all.

If you don't like fur then don't buy it, but don't think you're above people who do buy fur. Don't insult people who buy fur, that's no helping your cause. I can't stand animal rights activists because they never seem to want to make people understand their side they just push their views and insult you for what you do.


im just curious about animal fur coats do they shed like when there alive does the hair get all over your clothes..
 

amoona

Well-known member
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAC_Whore
I am calm. In no way did my post reflect any angry emotion. Do as you please. You like fur, you wear it. I don't like fur, I don't wear it. It is as simple as that. The "tough shit" wasn't necessary. Let's keep it civil, OK?

As I stated, it's my opinion. I don't think of it as a cause. I am not an animal activist. It is my opinion. I didn't say I was above anyone or that any one is below me for wearing fur. I said that it often appears a product of narcissim, insecurity and pretentiousness. That does not speak to the person as a whole. Those are charecteristics of a person. It is their choice. IMO a bad one, but their choice none the less.

For the record, I hate people shoving their "causes" down my throat. So I don't inflict that on others.


In that case I apologize for misunderstanding your post. It seemed like you were putting down people for wearing fur and insulting them.
 

amoona

Well-known member
Quote:
Originally Posted by little teaser
im just curious about animal fur coats do they shed like when there alive does the hair get all over your clothes..

My real furs don't shed, the one fake fur I had used to but my cousin in Palestine liked it so I left it for her when I was there last December. idk why the real ones don't shed and the fake ones do.
 

little teaser

Well-known member
Quote:
Originally Posted by amoona
My real furs don't shed, the one fake fur I had used to but my cousin in Palestine liked it so I left it for her when I was there last December. idk why the real ones don't shed and the fake ones do.

thanks for the info.. i was curious cause my old dog was a rottie and would shed every where and it would drive me insane..lol
 

GreekChick

Well-known member
Oh, and it's not just P. Diddy who is doing this....
In Europe, they banned any fur trade with asian countries because it turns out the fur that asia was trying to pass as "faux" was actually dog and cat fur. That's right, take a look at your dog or your cat sitting next to you, all nuzzled up next to your leg, the same little pet that greets you first thing when you get home....Now imagine it being strangled, stabbed, it's rib cage being ripped open all the while being alive and crying for help.
Harsh eh? Well think about what these animals go through. Think about Jennifer Lopez and her REAL FUR adhesive eyelashes. Think about how dogs and cats are killed all over the world with just an ax. I don't think you want to see pictures, I did and I was teary for days. That cream you just bought will surely make your skin glow, but how many bunnies did it kill before it was safe enough to make you beautiful ? " Fois gras" was put off the market in the states, not too long ago. Good, cause it was simply animal torture.

Fur is the same thing. These animals have a right to live. Just like us.
Do animals wear us? Imagine if they could, if they had the capacity to rip your skin off. Wouldn't you protest? Animals can't protest, but you could so see their pain in their little eyes, feel them being tortured as they cry, on their way to death.
Watch it. Through a video, or a picture. Go to a shelter. I promise you you will NEVER come close to fur again.
 

*Stargazer*

Well-known member
ITA GreekChick. The problem is, people who wear furs would rather feel luxurious and look rich than think about the poor animals who were slaughtered for their fur.
 

little teaser

Well-known member
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekChick
Oh, and it's not just P. Diddy who is doing this....
In Europe, they banned any fur trade with asian countries because it turns out the fur that asia was trying to pass as "faux" was actually dog and cat fur. That's right, take a look at your dog or your cat sitting next to you, all nuzzled up next to your leg, the same little pet that greets you first thing when you get home....Now imagine it being strangled, stabbed, it's rib cage being ripped open all the while being alive and crying for help.
Harsh eh? Well think about what these animals go through. Think about Jennifer Lopez and her REAL FUR adhesive eyelashes. Think about how dogs and cats are killed all over the world with just an ax. I don't think you want to see pictures, I did and I was teary for days. That cream you just bought will surely make your skin glow, but how many bunnies did it kill before it was safe enough to make you beautiful ? " Fois gras" was put off the market in the states, not too long ago. Good, cause it was simply animal torture.

Fur is the same thing. These animals have a right to live. Just like us.
Do animals wear us? Imagine if they could, if they had the capacity to rip your skin off. Wouldn't you protest? Animals can't protest, but you could so see their pain in their little eyes, feel them being tortured as they cry, on their way to death.
Watch it. Through a video, or a picture. Go to a shelter. I promise you you will NEVER come close to fur again.


thats horrific!!! now im piss thats soooooo cruel if people would stop buying these furs maybe the companys would stop makeing them cause there would be no profit..
 

amoona

Well-known member
Ladybug10678 it's not about feeling luxurious and looking rich ... maybe for celebrities it is because most of the time they just wear what their stylist picks for them. For any other person it's about buying what you like, and none of my fur coats are super expensive so idk how it makes me "look rich".
 

*Stargazer*

Well-known member
And you can "like" something knowing what animals went through to make it? Then that's where you and I differ. I think fur is murder and the people that choose to wear it contribute to animal abuse. And I don't particularly care if that isn't PC.

And I honestly don't believe that amnyone wears a fur coat solely because it's the only coat they could find that they liked.
 

Beauty Mark

Well-known member
There are so many reasons why people should be more active in animal rights type stuff.

People who kill animals for their hides (fur, leather) it isn't done in a humane fashion often times; sometimes it seems like people go out of their way to make it as cruel as possible. I'm morally opposed to pretty much anything with killing animals or testing on them, unless it's going to be medicine or have a greater purpose; smear-proof eyeliner isn't one of them. The way I see it is that there are plenty of alternatives for most things we use animals for, and I like to personally lower the amount of pain in the world, even if it is just like dog or a cow or a fish.

Like I said, I'm against killing animals on a whole, but if you must wear fur/leather or eat meat, I wish that the industries would a) do it in a more humane fashion and b) not be so wasteful. I'm about to go out now, but there are many articles discussing how wasteful things are. I think if you're going to kill something, use every single piece you can.

BTW, there was really good article in Rolling Stone recently about the conditions in which pigs are kept by some company before they're turned into meat. It was disgusting, to say the least. The sanitary conditions alone, even if you don't care about pigs, should be appalling to most people.
 

amoona

Well-known member
I never said I wear fur because it's the only fur I can find that I like. When I see something I like I buy it, I have more then one coat. Some are fur some aren't, whatever I like and keeps me warm I'll buy.

Yes I can wear it after knowing how fur comes about because of many reasons one being that I think animal rights activists and those PETA people are psycho so I don't listen to anything they have to say. I don't care to watch their videos or read what they have to say because they only push their views instead of trying to explain their views.

I'm not an animal person so I'm not going to dedicate my life to it, sorry more important things going on in this world for me to worry about. If that makes you think I'm only wearing fur because I want to look rich then go for it. I also wear leather so I guess I'm REALLY trying too hard to look rich.
 

aquarius11

Well-known member
Quote:
Originally Posted by amoona
I never said I wear fur because it's the only fur I can find that I like. When I see something I like I buy it, I have more then one coat. Some are fur some aren't, whatever I like and keeps me warm I'll buy.

Yes I can wear it after knowing how fur comes about because of many reasons one being that I think animal rights activists and those PETA people are psycho so I don't listen to anything they have to say. I don't care to watch their videos or read what they have to say because they only push their views instead of trying to explain their views.

I'm not an animal person so I'm not going to dedicate my life to it, sorry more important things going on in this world for me to worry about. If that makes you think I'm only wearing fur because I want to look rich then go for it. I also wear leather so I guess I'm REALLY trying too hard to look rich.



Let's leave our hostility at the front door, shall we?

I think you missed the point here. As Ladybug10678 previously stated, "And you can "like" something knowing what animals went through to make it? I think fur is murder and the people that choose to wear it contribute to animal abuse."

Enough said.
 

*Stargazer*

Well-known member
Comparing leather to fur is nonsense. When was the last time anyone ate a chinchilla after making a coat out of it?
 

Hawkeye

Well-known member
amoona- I don't think any of these posts are directed to you by any means. As a matter of fact-I think they are just stating their opinions about the matter. It has nothing to do with you. I do think you are reading it and because you happen to like to wear fur automatically think that everyone is ganging up on you- when in fact- nobody is. They are just stating what they believe in this matter. There is no reason for you to get hostile or sarcastic or argumentative- it's just people stating their opinion. Nothing else.
 

Hawkeye

Well-known member
Quote:
Originally Posted by little teaser
thats horrific!!! now im piss thats soooooo cruel if people would stop buying these furs maybe the companys would stop makeing them cause there would be no profit..

Sweetie they won't stop. Even if it stops being profitable. The reason? People in general are cruel. If they can kill something-anything they will. They kill anything they don't understand.

There are only a few times that I think killing an animal is acceptable-one is for medicinal purposes, another is for food and warmth. The indians they had it right. They killed an animal and they used EVERYTHING.

But anyway I also have to agree that Peta- yeah I can't support anything they do. I think we have very similar goals- to stop animal cruelty etc but they go about it all wrong. It's one thing to try to educate and discuss but it's another to go off the handle, throw paint on things etc.

I mean I can't help but think- Idiots- you throw paint on a fur coat-what the hell do you think that person is going to do? Especially if they are rich? They are going to go out and buy another fur coat!

The fanatical mindset of these people scare the hell out of me.

I mean people are going to do what they are going to do and the problem with a lot of people is we don't listen to what the other side has to say to understand and you can pursuade people to change their minds by showing a better way but you can never force it.
 

little teaser

Well-known member
i agree too about peta they are crazy and i also agree with amoona about being turned off by the way they aproach people but at the same time i feel for those animals and i must confess of being guilty of wearing leather shoes coats and handbags.. so this thread will def make me think befor i buy cause now knowing what i do i will feel bad..lol
 

GreekChick

Well-known member
Quote:
Originally Posted by amoona
I never said I wear fur because it's the only fur I can find that I like. When I see something I like I buy it, I have more then one coat. Some are fur some aren't, whatever I like and keeps me warm I'll buy.

Yes I can wear it after knowing how fur comes about because of many reasons one being that I think animal rights activists and those PETA people are psycho so I don't listen to anything they have to say. I don't care to watch their videos or read what they have to say because they only push their views instead of trying to explain their views.

I'm not an animal person so I'm not going to dedicate my life to it, sorry more important things going on in this world for me to worry about. If that makes you think I'm only wearing fur because I want to look rich then go for it. I also wear leather so I guess I'm REALLY trying too hard to look rich.


Sorry, but this issue IS one of the most important things going on in the world right now. And no, animal rights activists and PETA people aren't all "psycho"....Their ideas certainly grew from somewhere.
Like I said, google it, go to a shelter, or watch a live taping on www.youtube.com....I don't think ANY argument, after what you will witness, will be valid enough to defend the part where you say it's all "psycho".
Sure you will buy it cause you like it, while not caring, cause you're not an animal person. You have a right, cause you like it. Hey! if people like war, they'll start one; if rapists love raping, they'll rape..However these people might "like" doing these things, IT"S STILL WRONG!!!!!
 

Hawkeye

Well-known member
Greek-honey I know you feel very passionately about this-as do I-but we must remember we should only state opinions on this-not attack each other and say someones opinion is wrong. If anything I'm afraid it will give the negative effect of what you are wanting to achieve.

Amoona- Same with you.

Sorry It's getting near Christmas and to be point blank- I DONT WANT TO HEAR AN ARGUMENT DARN IT :p
 

amoona

Well-known member
I never said any of those posts were directed at me ... I know they are general statements. But to make a general statement saying that people were fur because they want to look rich is silly. I don't wear it to look rich. I wear it because I like it, plain and simple. I read the And you can "like" something knowing what animals went through to make it? I think fur is murder and the people that choose to wear it contribute to animal abuse" statement ... I don't think it's murder if you guys do that's fine. I'm a murderer, whatever I'm really not getting pissed about it. I'm just saying I wear what I like, not what's expensive.

I honestly don't think it's that important of an issue sorry. I've seen worse things in my life that any of these videos. Yes I still think those PETA people are psycho, they care more about animals then people. If someone poured red paint on my coat they'd get the psycho version of me. What I was saying is that those people turn off a lot of people from their cause because of their actions and the way they try to deliver their message. Comparing someone who likes fur coats to a rapist is exactly what I'm talking about ... it's not helping people see your side, it's turning people like me off from your cause.

Listen animals taste good and their fur looks good so I'm going to wear it. A video isn't going to change my mind for a lot of reasons, one being that I think it's a lot of b.s. and I don't care to speak to anyone who considers themselves an animal rights activist because like I said before, I think they're psycho. I've yet to encounter one who tries to teach me their side they always seem to attach and insult anyone who wears fur ... like some people were doing earlier in this thread. I spend my time worrying about more important world issues, and animal fur isn't one of those issues.
 

Hawkeye

Well-known member
It's the tone of the posts. I respect your opinion and that's fine. I even agree with a lot of what you are saying (esp. the Peta etc part!) But the tone in not just yours but others as well are escalating this topic into something it isn't.
 
Top