Senior prank

[hypergrl273]

hey ladies, i'm a freshman in high school and i don't know if anyone has seen anything on this but i go to the highschool in alabama were our seniors paid a homeless man to walk through the halls naked as one of their senior pranks... not sure what they were thinking but it's been on cnn and alot of students at my school think it was just hilarious and others think it was terribly wrong, i just wanted to know what ya'lls opinion on this where and what you would think would be a fair punishment.

Update: there punishment is they have to serve 100 hours of community service involving the homeless before they can get there diploma, and aren't allowed to go to the senior picnic, class day, awards day, and can't walk at graduation.our school pretty well known for our crazy senior pranks, but i agree this one went waaaay to far.

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[Janice]

Damn that's crazy.

 

[Shimmer]

I think the parents of the seniors in your school did a shit job of raising their kids with social graces, including empathy, propriety, and awareness of human condition.
Not to mention that sounds totally tasteless and doesn't reflect well on the people involved in the prank.
Were I a part of the administration of the school, I would push for the students involved would not be allowed to walk across the stage as part of graduation ceremonies. Nor would I allow them on the senior trip, if one were scheduled to be taken.

But I'm a hardass like that. *shrug*

 

[MAC_Whore]

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Originally Posted by shimmer I think the parents of the seniors in your school did a shit job of raising their kids with social graces, including empathy, propriety, and awareness of human condition. Not to mention that sounds totally tasteless and doesn't reflect well on the people involved in the prank. Were I a part of the administration of the school, I would push for the students involved would not be allowed to walk across the stage as part of graduation ceremonies. Nor would I allow them on the senior trip, if one were scheduled to be taken. But I'm a hardass like that. *shrug*

Shimmer, you said it all. Although I wouldn't go so far as to lump all parents and kids into that statement. I am sure there are plenty of parents and kids who saw the impropriety of it. God, at least I hope there were!

The act of degrading this homeless man, who undoubtedly needs money, for "laughs" is absolutely, fucking dispicable! How incredibly cruel and repulsive those kids are. The fact that they even thought of that idea, let alone executed it, is such a sad statement.

I absolutely agree that the students involved should be denied graduation ceremony priviledges and any other optional/fun activities offered. Here is my other idea for punishment: Take the students involved, let them live on the streets for a couple of weeks. Let them beg for money, not be able to bath or use a proper toilet, be hungry, be cold, be desperate. Is it still funny, kids? Seriously, these kids should have charges pressed against them. This is almost akin to a hate crime. They are degrading someone based on his lifestyle. Good news is that the kids are 18, so they can charge those pieces of shit as adults!

 

[Shimmer]

My statement wasn't intended to be a generalization, but more specifically related to the parents of the seniors responsible for the prank, I should have made that clearer.

I'd love to see the kids on the streets having to hustle it for money, unfortunately, that puts them in an unsafe environment, and many haven't the stomach to do such a thing. :/

And I totally agree that there should be charges brought against the kids involved.

 

[MAC_Whore]

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Originally Posted by shimmer My statement wasn't intended to be a generalization, but more specifically related to the parents of the seniors responsible for the prank, I should have made that clearer......

I figured that's what you meant, but I just wanted to clarify my position.

 

[Shimmer]

I have to wonder what the parents of the students involved think. :/

 

[inlucesco]

On what legal grounds would you have charges pressed? I think calling it a "hate crime" is a bit extreme since, ostensibly, the man being paid agreed to do what they asked. That's not to say that I think it's ethically right, but I also don't think that pressing charges would be effective. In my opinion, the seniors should get their privileges revoked at school, and the rest should be left up to their parents.

 

[Shimmer]

are ridicule and humiliation not a part of expressing hatred?
Regarding criminal charges, there is always criminal mischief, or something of that nature.
Felony charges? Neh.
Misdemeanor charges? I'm sure someone could find something.


Regarding leaving it to their parents...obviously the parents haven't taken the time to teach them not to do it from the beginning, so why expect them to suddenly change now?

Then again, I'm a hardass about stuff like that. :/

 

[bluegrassbabe]

Second what Shimmer has said before. Those kids are disgusting and tasteless, and I would bet that their parents have set that example for them. I have absolutely zero sympathy for those who would take advantage of a human being in that situation.

 

[mjalomo]

The school I teach at pulled a senior prank last year. One streaked through the campus and others created a massive food fight in the cafeteria. Chickens, rats, & mice were brought to the cafeteria & released. We almost cancelled graduation. Personally, I think these things display a lack of respect. The people who exploited the homeless man felt they could use him because they had more money. He could be jailed & have a sexuall offense on his record if it hapeened on a campus with minors. Our streaker was charged with exposing himself to a minor after the parents of a freshman student decided to pursue it. How sad, those kids could have used the money they spent to help him or be remembered for doing a good deed.

 

[inlucesco]

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Originally Posted by shimmer are ridicule and humiliation not a part of expressing hatred? Regarding criminal charges, there is always criminal mischief, or something of that nature. Felony charges? Neh. Misdemeanor charges? I'm sure someone could find something. Regarding leaving it to their parents...obviously the parents haven't taken the time to teach them not to do it from the beginning, so why expect them to suddenly change now? Then again, I'm a hardass about stuff like that. :/

Sure, ridicule implies distaste or hatred for someone else. Personally, though, I don't agree with labeling anything a hate crime because it implies that intent is more important than the crime itself, and that becomes a bit too "thought police" for me. I agree that someone could find something to charge them with, and I see what you're saying with the examples you gave, but I'm not sure that would solve anything.

As for leaving up to the parents, I disagree. Every kid does their share of actions, either in poor taste or maliciously intended, that the parents have taught them not to do. Sometimes there are just crappy parents out there, but I wouldn't summarily dismiss them all because the kids did a prank in very poor taste. We can't tell from a news report if they're truly incorrigible (and thus blame the parents) or if they did something without thinking about all the repercussions and implications.

 

[Hawkeye]

OMG.
What a bunch of stupid horrible heartless peices of shit that waste oxygen those kids are.

Oh man that Jesus Christ, thats horrible. Those parents those horrible people

Lets put it this way chances are you will not get a senior prank and chances are nobody else will in the state or even the country.

Damn. God those kids are....damn no words can describe my pure disgust for that.

 

[mspixieears]

Wow, I must be tame, back in the day, my idea of a prank on the last day of school was turning my school dress up past the knee and graffiti-ing it. Some guys came to school in girls' uniform.

The all boys' school down the road were not allowed to sit their finals in their school, they had to go into the city centre and some got expelled for decapitating a statue.

That stunt is just too sick to be a prank

I've said it once, I'll say it again, sometimes humans suck.

 

[ishtarchick]

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Originally Posted by MAC_Whore The act of degrading this homeless man, who undoubtedly needs money, for "laughs" is absolutely, fucking dispicable! How incredibly cruel and repulsive those kids are. The fact that they even thought of that idea, let alone executed it, is such a sad statement.

couldn't agree more.
i mean, pranks are okay we all did it once, but this went to far, the homeless guy is a human being too who doesn't deserve to be treated like this.

 

[kaliraksha]

At least it wasn't this

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...690466,00.html

 

[MAC_Whore]

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Originally Posted by inlucesco On what legal grounds would you have charges pressed? I think calling it a "hate crime" is a bit extreme since, ostensibly, the man being paid agreed to do what they asked. That's not to say that I think it's ethically right, but I also don't think that pressing charges would be effective. In my opinion, the seniors should get their privileges revoked at school, and the rest should be left up to their parents.

I said that it is "almost akin to a hate crime." I made this comment based on the fact that obviously those kids targeted and exploited this man because he is homeless. Homeless people would be considered a group. It is therefore conceivable that they could be target of animosity. These kids were clearly aware that due to this man's situation or group that he is unfortunately defined by (homeless), they would probably have more success than say if they targeted a group of well-paid executives to perform this prank. IMO, that could be taken as intent. To exploit and degrade someone based on the group they are considered to be a part of could be considered a hate crime. I realize that this is a very loose interpretation, that is why I used the word "almost".

Yes, they paid him and yes he agreed to do it. However, this is a grown man who agreed to run naked around a bunch of kids. How hungry, poor, miserable, etc do you have to be to do that? You and I have roofs over our heads and meals everyday, so we cannot fully comprehend that lifestyle and what it takes to survive. I can't imagine how shitty it would be and what I may be forced to do.

I agree that as kids we all do dumb things. I did. We all make mistakes, regardless of the types of parents we have. However, there are cleary different levels of judgement involved here. There is a difference between the kid, who as a prank, puts a skirt on the school statue as opposed to the kid who thinks its a great idea to exploit a homeless man and expose other kids to nudity that they probably did not want to see.

As far as what legal grounds I would press charges on, I am not a lawyer, so it would be irresponsible for me to take a guess. If you are a lawyer, perhaps you have advice? I still believe that the law is the best answer to this, as it seems their parents didn't instill certain values that would have steered these kids away from this. And hey, perhaps they did, but it obviously didn't work. Therefore, a stronger message is needed. When a kid is late for curfew, ground him/her. That is a reasonable punishment. However, when the incident escalates to a certain level, such as with these kids, I believe that an escalated punishment is warranted.

Please don't take this post as bitchy or confrontational. I am just clarifying my line of reasoning on this.

 

[MAC_Whore]

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Originally Posted by kaliraksha At least it wasn't this http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...690466,00.html

That makes me so incredibly sad.

 

[Shimmer]

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Originally Posted by MAC_Whore That makes me so incredibly sad.

I believe animal abuse/cruelty is a felony in some states....

 

[Life In Return]

Just a comment - Don't necessarily blame it on the parents. My parents raised us with proper moral values, but my brothers and I all had stages where we did some pretty crazy stuff as teenagers. Sometimes, kids will do what they want REGARDLESS of how they were raised, so please be careful in making a generalization such as that.

Anyhow, that's pretty horrible what these kids did... I pray for them, and that man as well.