"Suicide Girls" Models

[MaskedBeauty]

Has anyone ever heard of the "Suicide Girls" models?? If you haven't you can go on google and search "suicide girls" and it will come up with their website to look at. Its basically modeling clothed and nude for girls that wouldn't be able to do playboy or magazines like that because their different/unique.. piercings, tattoos, colored hair, etc. You can submit pictures to try out and if they pic you, you are on their website and can go to modeling events for them. but what I didn't like was that you only get paid ($500) if you get selected to be "model of the week" or something like that. Other than that your pictures (mostly nude) are on the internet for all to see with no pay. What do you girls think about this? Would you do it or what are your thoughts on it??

 

[hello_kitty]

In 2004 I applied to be one and got turned down. That was back when it was a bit more exclusive and models were paid for each photo set. And I am SOOOOO happy I was not accepted when I look back on it today! Like you said, it's you naked for the whole world to see.

In my honest opinion, the whole site has just degraded to a typical porno site that takes advantages of girls wanting their 15 minutes of fame. And I don't say that to offend anyone who might be one of their models, because I have a friend who has photo sets on there. I've heard there's better sites out there that compensate their models better that cater to the SG type, too.

Just if you're considering it just really think about it, and maybe research other options that are out there that might at least give you a bit more money.

 

[MaskedBeauty]

^Thank you very much for your post. What other sites are there like the suicide girls?? Like you said, you're pretty much naked on the internet for the whole world to see and I don't know if i'm fully comfortable with that. I think if I was going to do that it would only be for a company thats more classy/prestigious like playboy. And they definately pay you more.

 

[hello_kitty]

haha, I'd totally drop my clothes for Playboy!! I mean, it's freaking Playboy! Haha!

My brain is totally blank on the other sites... it's been a few years since I've really read a lot about the whole thing

My friend who is really into SG said the other sites don't pay any better, but I've heard different so I'm not sure. Maybe they've all gone to hell

 

[shatteredshards]

Deviant Nation is one, and has some former SGs (including Apnea) on it. I used to be a member there after I found out about shady crap going on with SG (around the time Apnea and a bunch of other girls were "archived"). Gods Girls is another, though I think they were more aggressively trying to copycat SG at the time; looks like they toned it down a bit since then.

As for SG itself, I applied back around 2004-2005 as well, and passed the initial application. However, when I got the contract and read it through, I couldn't bring myself to really go any further. When things came out of the woodwork with the mass exodus and I actually saw the shady things they were doing with my own eyes, editing this and that and lying about things, and I saw the quality of the sets going down while great "hopeful" sets were being rejected and posted on the forums, I left the site completely, even with remaining subscription time.

And then I found out how they basically s****ed over Lithium Picnic, and I was glad to be done with 'em. To hear that they now don't even pay the girls for their individual sets anymore is rediculous. A good set takes a lot of work, and if it goes on the site, obviously they think it's good enough for people to pay to see, so why isn't it good enough to pay the girls?

 

[kimmy]

playboy's not very classy anymore.

the sad thing about suicidegirls, godsgirls, and playboy; is that they've been advertised as this great thing that gets you friends and this glamourous lifestyle. they don't, they do in fact put young girls in an extremely dangerous situation.

i'm not downing anyone who is or has applied to be this kind of model. i do however, think that the myth the industry comes with is one that should be debased and the reality of it is one that should be talked about more often. these companies, especially companies like suicidegirls, promise young women easy money. they never tell these girls about the stalkers or predators, they don't make them aware of the fact that sex offenders and deviants will be viewing them naked as they came, and that some of those predators have made a career of tracking down an victimizing women they fall in love with on a visual level.

even if they did still pay per set, is the money worth more than your safety?

 

[Nicala]

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Originally Posted by kimmy playboy's not very classy anymore. the sad thing about suicidegirls, godsgirls, and playboy; is that they've been advertised as this great thing that gets you friends and this glamourous lifestyle. they don't, they do in fact put young girls in an extremely dangerous situation. i'm not downing anyone who is or has applied to be this kind of model. i do however, think that the myth the industry comes with is one that should be debased and the reality of it is one that should be talked about more often. these companies, especially companies like suicidegirls, promise young women easy money. they never tell these girls about the stalkers or predators, they don't make them aware of the fact that sex offenders and deviants will be viewing them naked as they came, and that some of those predators have made a career of tracking down an victimizing women they fall in love with on a visual level. even if they did still pay per set, is the money worth more than your safety?

You just became my hero.
QFT!

 

[lilibat]

I have known girls who were screwed over by suicide girls, had to get a lawyer to use pictures of themselves not even taken for the site because at one point the contracts stated that SG owned their image for a certain period of time. It's exploitative quite above and beyond even what most pornish things are usually accused of. I say that having once been a dancer myself, so I have some personal experience with such things. SG is just bad.

 

[LMD84]

one of the guys at work has a friend who wants to be 'SG'. i'll make sure i tell him it's not as fantastic as it seems.

Me personally would not do it even if i looked the way they wanted me to. Purely because i wouldn't be comfortable with any random person seeing me naked like that. Especially if they do not pay very well and then try and keep your pictures as their own for a long period of time.

So i am personally not into the whole thing.

 

[BeautyNut]

I'll pose for anything AS LONG AS Photoshop is around.

Photoshop can make ANYONE perfect, but only with the use of digital photo editing.

Seriously, I'm only kidding about posing for anything.

 

[Mabelle]

I have a friend that is a suicide girl. I think its quite sad. She's a cute girl, but nothing particularly special. Just someone with a few tats will to show her junk.
I find the whole things screams "i want attention!". She was the kind of girl that was constantly over looked in high school. She was always trying to get mens attention, and being ignored for the typical pretty girls. Well, now she's taken her opportunity to be the "bombshell" and is running with it. Sad thing is, for her, i can see this leading to her doing full out porn. yuck.

Anyway, my views are obviously shaped by this girl, but i find the whole site sad. I mean, how many girls are on there just to show their bodies for mens approval?
Also, wasn;t suicide girls for those that were fairly heavy pierced, tattooed ect. ? Now it seems like its for any girl from the mall that has a tattoo.

 

[Almond_Eyed]

I'm gonna argue both sides of the issue here...

Some girls like to show it all, they're exhibitionists. They feel that they're confident with their sexuality and think "classy girls" are just being prudes. They don't care what other people think. On the other hand, girls who prefer to cover up think these exibitionist girls are sluts/whores/skanks and do it for attention. It goes back to that old debate... just because you dress like a slut doesn't mean you are.

You can look at it in two ways with regards to oppression of women. Women who wear "skanky" clothes may feel that it's a kind of female independence or liberation because women are forced to cover up in some cultures (e.g. burkas). Some may think women who show everything are subordinating themselves, and we see them as being "lower" beings (e.g. strippers, prostitutes, etc). Some girls keep it behind closed doors, some don't. To each to their own.

 

[hello_kitty]

^ I agree with what you said. To each their own!

I use to model in the import car scene (which sometimes is a fine line away from playboy-esque stuff), and people quite easily put the label of "some dumb whore who can't make money any other way" on the girls. Sure, some were only that, but plenty were nurses, teachers, scientists with husbands or in serious relationships who just enjoyed doing it! Hell, I'll admit it was soooo fun to get all dolled up with the hair, makeup, and nails and pose for pictures all day long. I think some people just say it out of jealousy because they wish they were the ones posing on their man's car, heh.

But definitely SG comes across as very exploitive and the quality has gone down hill. Even a lot of photographers will refuse to do a shoot if they know it's going to go to SG because of how SG claims ownership over the photos. But then again... there's plenty of "Guys With Cameras" that love to get their hands on a naked girl to take pictures of with their point and shoots...

 

[Meisje]

Porn is porn. I think with SG, they try to present it as alternative and almost feminist, but the bottom line is that it's naked pictures for people to get off to.

I've become disgusted with Deviant Art... you can't browse without seeing tonnes of porn. And I don't consider something porn simply because it contains nudity, either.

The internet has caused porn to be everywhere and way too accessible. Just from talking to men who grew up in and are growing up in the age when you can get porn 24-7 on the net, I can see that it warps their perception of sexuality and their expectations a bit.

 

[MaskedBeauty]

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Originally Posted by hello_kitty ^ I agree with what you said. To each their own! I use to model in the import car scene (which sometimes is a fine line away from playboy-esque stuff), and people quite easily put the label of "some dumb whore who can't make money any other way" on the girls. Sure, some were only that, but plenty were nurses, teachers, scientists with husbands or in serious relationships who just enjoyed doing it! Hell, I'll admit it was soooo fun to get all dolled up with the hair, makeup, and nails and pose for pictures all day long. I think some people just say it out of jealousy because they wish they were the ones posing on their man's car, heh. But definitely SG comes across as very exploitive and the quality has gone down hill. Even a lot of photographers will refuse to do a shoot if they know it's going to go to SG because of how SG claims ownership over the photos. But then again... there's plenty of "Guys With Cameras" that love to get their hands on a naked girl to take pictures of with their point and shoots...

How did you get into modeling in the import car scene? I love imports and its something I've wanted to do for a long time but I have no idea how to go about getting started?? Any advice and suggestions would be helpful. And thank you for your advice with the SG subject. I agree that the quality has gone way down.

 

[MaskedBeauty]

Thank you everyone for your imput. I do agree to each their own but I just wanted to see other people's take on it. I did also read like you ladies said about them keeping the pictures even if they deny your application. I didn't like that aspect of it either.

I checked out penthouse website just to see what they say about their applicants and I didn't like the poses that they "require" (like a full frontal shot with you legs spread wide open). It just seems like playboy is more "classy" when it comes to that. I've looked through playboys before and I can't say I remember ever seeing poses like that. But I think playboy is a long shot. So many people try out for it and only few get accepted.

 

[hello_kitty]

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Originally Posted by MaskedBeauty How did you get into modeling in the import car scene? I love imports and its something I've wanted to do for a long time but I have no idea how to go about getting started?? Any advice and suggestions would be helpful. And thank you for your advice with the SG subject. I agree that the quality has gone way down.

I'm into imports and racing and stuff, so it kinda just stemmed from that... posing with my own car for my own personal use. Then one summer I didn't have my car because it was in storage in WY and I was living in NJ at the time, but I still wanted to go to shows and the races, so I decided just to model. My ex was a photographer so we'd just walk around shows and he'd take pictures of me and then that would get a crowd and things started from that. I'd do private shoots for people with their cars. Then a few companies picked me up to work some events. So I did that for about a year, and then got my car back so I went back to the other side of the camera as a photographer for models and events and back to racing my own car.

My advice would be find a GOOD photographer... you might have to pay for the first shoot, but it's so worth it if you find the right person. The guy I found was awesome and taught me how to pose right for the camera and even some makeup skills. Try to avoid guys that find you on myspace/facebook/modelmayhem that offer free stuff... most of them are the "GWCs" - Guys With Cameras - that are really just out to pick up girls and really lack the good studio photographic skills to get amazing pictures. Unfortunately with the digital age there's more and more morons getting into photography for alternative reasons

So do a shoot, get some hot pictures that you can use to show people. Check out the local car show scene... car clubs and local magazines/sites are usually looking for models for their thing so that's a way to get into it. Bikini contests are also good to do (but terrifying, at least it was for me, haha). I don't know where you live (if you live around NJ or Colorado, let me know, then I can recommend you people and magazines to model for!), but if there's tracks see if they hire people to work events as trophy girls, or performance shops, etc.

A lot of the time it involves a lot of who you know, and networking. I never was seriously into it because I was just doing it for fun, but still made a lot of good contacts with some big companies and magazines.

If you have any other questions, I can try to answer them! HTH

 

[MaskedBeauty]

^ thank you very much for all your info. I live in Northern California (bay area).. So no where near you. lol. I went to the HIN website to see if it had info on there and instead of doing model applications now they want you to sign up on HINcity.com and make a model profile. I am very low on money right now so can't afford a professional photographer at the moment so I think for now I will ask a friend of mine to take pics and see what happens. I will definately also look for car clubs in my area.

 

[MaskedBeauty]

How would I search for car clubs around me though? Would it come up if I do a google search?

 

[BeccalovesMAC]

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Originally Posted by MaskedBeauty How would I search for car clubs around me though? Would it come up if I do a google search?

My husband owns a very well known Fortune 500 company in the import scene. Please visit AZHT.net. They have photoshoots with professional photographers with Subarus, Nissan, Acura, Audi and VW. I personally think that Import models make shit. There is a 'certain' look that they go for. Mostly latina or Asian. Not really blondes. They really dont get paid much. My man usually pays 100.00 for a day at HIN or SEMA events. HIN has been cancelled for the rest of the year due to the economy. Good luck


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