The Estee Lauder Conspiracy

[Dark_Phoenix]

So I'm going through my make-up cabinet and I notice something odd between Origins (owned by Estee Lauder) and MAC (owned by Estee Lauder).

Take a look at this...
I know Clinique,and Estee Lauder come in non-palette-compatibles but this is odd... one conclusion: CONSPIRACY.
Bobbi Brown, Prescriptives, MAC and now Origins...

Are all of these just different shades of the same formulation?

 

[Beauty Mark]

I'm confused by what you're asking. Is it that EL companies essentially use the same formula/recipe for eyeshadow and just market the different colors according brand?

Or is this a comparison between the size of the depotted shadows? If it's this, the size of the pan means nothing. Many brands can use those palettes.

 

[Pinklady77]

I'm confused too.

 

[Dark_Phoenix]

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark I'm confused by what you're asking. Is it that EL companies essentially use the same formula/recipe for eyeshadow and just market the different colors according brand? Or is this a comparison between the size of the depotted shadows? If it's this, the size of the pan means nothing. Many brands can use those palettes.

I'm wondering that if Estee Lauder has taken over companies like MAC and Origins that all the eyeshadows are just the same kind in different colors. Is this a possibility?

 

[Shimmer]

Are you asking if they use the same recipe in different companies and colors?

 

[Dark_Phoenix]

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Originally Posted by Shimmer Are you asking if they use the same recipe in different companies and colors?

Yes, exactly.

 

[astronaut]

I too am confused. If an eyeshadow has a different shade, wouldn't it need to have a different formula anyways? And looking at the Estee Lauder site, it looks like they don't have that many chemists working for them worldwide, and there's only one lab in North America, so I wouldn't be surprised if the same chemist is doing something for two+ brands like M.A.C. and Fl!rt.

 

[VeronikaJ]

I think they're just a similar or same size pallette for eyeshadow. Although MAC is owned by Estee Lauder; all MAC products are still manufactured in Canada where MAC originated. Just because Estee Lauder fully aquired MAC as a brand in 1998 does not necessarily denote that Lauder is just reproducing their products and sticking MAC's name on it.
I think I would need more evidence than an eyeshadow that looks similar to think Lauder is involved with a said "conspiracy".

 

[Beauty Mark]

From what I understand about makeup and chemists, there aren't that many in the world, so a lot of same companies, particularly if they're under one umbrella, like EL, do have similar formulas anyway. I can't imagine that there are a ton of terribly different ways to make an eyeshadow. You can alter the product with how much pigment you use and other ingredients, but the basic recipe probably is the same throughout most brands.

I'm going to guess if there's a similarity, it may be more about cutting costs or using better ingredients than trying to manufacture EL stuff as MAC stuff. It would be kind of silly for EL to sell their stuff under the MAC name, just because I believe an EL eyeshadow is significantly more than a MAC eyeshadow.

 

[Artemis]

I think the companies have their own control over products however I think they need aproval from the parent company(estee lauder) before they can release anything.

 

[nora_k]

i think you have a point, becuase i bought an american beauty lipstick from kohl's and it smells exactly like estee lauder lipstick, that figgy smell. then i looked up who owned american beauty and surprise surprise EL. I would not be shocked in the least if they used the same formulas.

 

[ChynaSkye]

while many statements here are true, on some level i think that the quality and impact (pigment richness) that MAC colors have are not mimicked by other Estee lines. I began in the makeup industry 14+ years ago and I have seen that many brands are owned by the same company and even processed the same way... but, the individual brands are run very very differently from one another and because of this each have very different products.

 

[hotti82]

a lot of times when heavy hitters like lauder take over they repackage their formulas under the banner of their newly-acquired companies...i work for clinique, which is owned by lauder as well and i've got to say that since lauder took over MAC; i've noticed a drastic change in the way things are released; the collections are MUCH more muted and not really cutting-edge anymore...it's tragic, really...but it's big business, after all...