There are some places your children just should NOT be...

panther27

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I went to see Halloween,and this guy brought his 5-7 year old daughter in with him.I was so shocked,wow!
 

Beauty Mark

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Originally Posted by nursee81
I have kids and for the most part they are well behaved. As for some people like me I don't have an on call sitter or daycare for my kids so they are with me 24 7 cause I am home 5 days out the wk. They go every where with me weather it the super market, the mall or even MAC. I kind recent that someone would say that if you come in here with your kids I will be rude to you....Honey if I spend my money in MAC or any store I expect to be treated with respect unless I have been a total BITCH to you personally.

I think that's really bad attitude for people to have about others taking their kids places (unless it's a scary movie or a porn shop or something similar).

As long as your kids act right (and you act right; some adults are crazy now that it's Christmas season), I don't think anyone should have a problem.
 

concertina

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I just think there are some places kids shouldn't be. A wine tasting, a party, *anywhere* after 8 or 9pm, non-kid movies, nice restaurants, any store with delicate items, etc.

I don't have problems with well-behaved children. The problem is that nearly all the children I've encountered in public are *not* well-behaved. Parents are distracted and their version of 'well-behaved' and other peoples', I find, is *completely* different.
 

whittt8

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As the mother of a curious and bull headed 2 year old, he's almost 3, I understand what each side to this thread is saying. My son is a boy to the core. He likes to wrestle and run wild. He is inquisitive and stubborn. He is still too young to completely understand that screaming and crying is inappropriate when something bothers him. He is too young to articulate his feelings with words completely. He will throw a temper tantrum at Target or Walmart if he doesnt get what he wants and to be quite honest most kids do it at least once. He knows when mommy and daddy mean business though. He gets disciplined properly and we take away things that we know will bother him i.e. his favorite toys or movies. I think parents need to be held accountable for how their children behave. Behaving like a brat is not acceptable anywhere, be it MAC or Chuck E Cheese. However, kids that are still young that do not completely understand the point you are trying to make do act out from frustration. So dont hold anything against a parent or child when a toddler cries. It isnt always because they are being bad. Older kids that know what is right and wrong, I can understand if it annoys you.

I also think there are places children shouldnt go, but to say that they shouldnt be allowed to go to places like the grocery store or the mall or whatever is unfair. I'm not a single mother. I'm happily married. I have 5 siblings who are old enough to watch my son and my mother lives with us. I will leave him with someone when I know that my errand or outing will be too much for his attention span or if I know he will get bored easily. When he gets bored he starts to get restless and that is when he gets "wild" on me. I simply do not put him in the situation when I know that I have other alternatives. I do take him with me pretty much everywhere I go. He goes to the MAC counter with me (the MA's love him because he is such a charmer. they've actually even held him so I could look or whatever.) he goes to the store, and he goes out to dinner with me. I think it's unfair to expect parents to not take their children certain places simply because other children have behaved poorly there before. I love being with my son. He is one of my favorite people to be with and spend time with, so of course he will go practically everywhere with me. As others have mentioned before, just remember that being a parent changes everything. While some people do not take it seriously and let their children run all over them and other people, remember that other mothers are doing the best they can. I've been the mother with the child screaming at the top of their lungs at Walmart. Trust me, it embaresses the heck out of me and I wish I could melt away. I dont let him misbehave to piss people off or ruin their shopping trip.
 

Lapis

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
I don't know you or your parenting style or you at all, so I cannot call you a breeder or not. I think the term is perfectly valid for some people but not all.

Actually that term is quite rude, even if you are speaking about a crack whore, breeder is a term for animals, I find it quite disgusting esp since it's an insult no matter whom it's being lobed at.

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Originally Posted by Raerae
The parents of your childrens friends can be a part of your social network. While i doubt the infant has any friends, the 3 year old should have some I would think...

Didn't you go to preschool?

Moms just need to network with who their children are spending time with. You can create your own daycare to help each other out if money is tight and you can't offord a sitter. They can watch your kids one day, while you watch theirs another.


Oh hell to the no.
Just because you have a child and are a ok person does not mean that you or your husband are wonderful trust worthy people, I've heard enough horror stories from my dh (who works in net crimes) about women finding out when law enforcement comes to their door that the "perfect husband" is trading sexual pics of the baby with pervs, or the last one he did with a teacher!! that I'm very selective as it comes baby sitters and she's only been baby sat once by her godmother!

Yes it means we have to take her places with us, but then she's a tiny 2 year old who amazes waiters that she can eat with a fork and sit and behave for almost the whole dinner, I figure she'll be just as good as her big bro who has great manners for a preteen cause he hasn't been left home with baby sitters constantly but actually has been out and about with us
 

Ms.Shanti

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I see some feathers being ruffled in this post..I live in LA (downtown) and my hubster and I are pretty artistic people.We take our son to art shows(yes i have gotten the "why did she bring her kid here" look)but i could give two $h!ts about those looks.I'm trying to expose my child to art(i have two boys one is 8 and one is 2..but my eldest resides with my ex-husband in a dif. state..ok moving on..lol)Like I've said I gotten the "look" but more or less I get people coming up to me saying how cool of a mom I am for bringing the little man to look at art.I guess i could label him as an Urban Baby.We've taken him to outdoor concerts and he loves it(I've also seen other kids there as well)I've also taken him to a nice places to eat and the waiters weren't even phased by him.But then again I'm half mexican and my mother's and grandmother's roots kick in and I too have the "you better act right stare".I discipline my 2 year old and make sure he knows I mean what i say.He understands.I think people underestimate how smart little children can be.I'm totally against parents doing the whole softly asking the child to stop thing.I find it funny.
Someone said get a sitter or find friends with kids who can watch your children.First off i don't trust anyone with my child.There are wayyyyy to many crazy people out there.He's only been watched by my mom(who lives 2 hours away)and one friend of mine that i recently let watch him.My son also has a Congential Heart Defect and it's hard for me to find a sitter to even watch him because they're too scared to deal with his issue.So therefore,I have to take my son everywhere!So i do feel for moms like me that have no choice but to take their kids with them.We can't be hermits and stay home for everything we do because we have no sitter.All in all it comes down to parenting and how you control your child/children.Lucky,mine are well behaved.
 

abbey_08

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i dont agree that people shouldnt be able to take their kids places. kids NEED social interaction, they shouldnt be left at home or palmed off because people shouldnt think they should be allowd in shops or resturants.

yeh some kids are little brats but that it their parents fault for not controlling them, and the kid could just be having a bad day or not feel well, kids dont know how to convey their thoughts or emotions properly so they cry and tantrum!

my 6yr old cousin came out to a family meal and she was fine, she just coloured in that time, she wasnt a nuisance to anyone. it would offend me if anyone looked at us and thought 'that kid should be at home'
 

AdlersMommy22

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My son is 8 months old and all I ever ever hear is how well behaved he is. And thats how he is @ home or when im out. I take him everywhere with me, store, mall, when he was younger (6 months) I even took him to class with me. He has a doctors appointment at 11 and my class got out at 10:30, so i brought him a blanket and some toys and he layed there and played for 60 minutes and did nothing.

I just hope he is this well behaved when he gets older, but Im 22 and im not going to stop living my life just because I had a child. That's ridiculous. And i cant expect my parents to be my 100% live in babysitters. They watch him when i work and am at school which 6/7 days of the week. If I want to take my son to my work and have a dinner while he sits in his high chair and eats grilled cheese, then screw off. Im taking him to dinner. I refuse to pretend like I died just because I had a child. He's well behaved and if he ever isnt when he gets older, you better BELIEVE that I will beat his ass right there in the resteraunt. My dad spanked me and I will absolutley spank my children. It's embarassing but you get over it.

When I was younger, I misbehaved at a resteraunt and my parents made me go back in and apologize to our waiter for my behavior. I never did it again.

People can take their kids anywhere (within limits. I went to see The Hills Have Eyes and these ASSHOLE parents had their 4 and 5 year old daughters there who were BAWLING their eyes out the entire movie and htey wouldnt let them leave because they had "paid money for the ticket.".. I told them if I were in IL (i was in AZ at the time) I would have reported them to DCFS because that's mental child abuse to the core.) as long as they take responsibility for their kid's actions. When children are THAT young then it's the parents responsiblity because those children aren't old enough to understand that what they are doing is "wrong" in society's eyes.
 

Beauty Mark

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Actually that term is quite rude, even if you are speaking about a crack whore, breeder is a term for animals, I find it quite disgusting esp since it's an insult no matter whom it's being lobed at.

It was never meant to be kind, like calling someone a jerk or an idiot is never meant to be kind. Some people truly put themselves in positions where all they do is give birth and don't give a rat's ass about their kids.

However, my point was that having many kids doesn't make one a breeder, like being assertive doesn't make one a bitch.
 

AdlersMommy22

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
It was never meant to be kind, like calling someone a jerk or an idiot is never meant to be kind. Some people truly put themselves in positions where all they do is give birth and don't give a rat's ass about their kids.

However, my point was that having many kids doesn't make one a breeder, like being assertive doesn't make one a bitch.



I do agree, some people make me sick with things like this. My friend Katie justh ad a little boy, smoked her whole pregnancy, had him 6 weeks early, drank.... now apparently she just leaves him in her basement while she goes upstairs and parties, and smokes pot around him all the time. what the fucking hell. I could never do that. My son is sitting RIGHT next to me right now playing with whinnie the pooh toys and eating cherrios and I freak out even contemplaying going upstairs to get my coffee and leaving him alone for a split second with my father in the next room.

some people make me sick to my stomach. those poor poor poor babies...
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leenybeeny

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I don't have kids, don't want kids, but that being said, I think that kids can be taken anywhere (except for porn shops etc lol).

However, I think it is up the parents to keep their children well behaved regardless of where they are. My parents could not afford to put me in daycare or hire a babysitter every time they needed to go somewhere. So they taught me how to *behave*. I always went to the salon with my mother. I sat in the back with my colouring books and didn't move. Fancy restaurants? Sure thing! They dressed me up, gave me some of what they were eating and my butt was NOT to leave the chair without premission.

If those things are not enforced, then obviously kids are going to take advantage and go nuts at a makeup counter, or run around a restaurant. I can't say this as an experienced parent, I can say this as a well disciplined CHILD. (well, I was, now I am an old fart).
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MACForME

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I see both sides of this argument. However, my thoughts are thusly-Ny nephew is 6 and my niece is 6 months old, and yes, i see them ALOT.. and i mean ALOT.

If its an "Adult" function, your child needs to stay home. Period. Throwing a hissy because sweet little Jr wasn't invited is never adult, nor is it wise nor does it teach your child anything either. If the invite says Mr. & Mrs. Jones, that is who is invited, period, please don't call me up and ask if Jr can come. I'm uncomfortable, you are rude.

If its an Adult venue: ie high end (NOT FAMILY) restaurant, wine/cheese tasting, or a play in italian/french etc, opera, non-child friendly, why would you bring your child? They don't understand, they get bored and its not fair to the other patrons.

Finally, if your child is screaming or on a tantrum while your eating, shopping, on your cell phone, you may be used to it, but WE are not, its not fair to assume that the screeching howl that your child is doing is cute. Its NOT. Neither is allowing your child to reach over the booth, kick my seat or howl.
 

bebs

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well I must admit, there are a lot of kids that need to be taught how to behave better, as well as their parents.

I work with children, in an after school program. I love it for the most part, however year after year these kids are getting more misbehaved and think they can get away with more... (which they can not with me) it takes longer to "train" them in good behavior. My main problem (gripe) is when I talk to the parents they sometimes do nothing about their child's horrid behavior.

I'll admit I am quite strict and I will not accept any disrespectful behavior in my classroom.

I'm not a parent my self, but someday I would like to have kids of my own and I cant see how a parent could put up with this behavior all the time, because if its going on in the classroom its almost surely going on at home as well.
 

AngelBunny

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I am a mom with two toddlers ... both boys ... one four and the other two. I will be the first to admit they are handfuls, but they are also incredibly sweet children and I am not just saying that because they are mine. They have the same issues every other toddler does ... short attention span, neediness, inquisitive mind, etc. They are not habitually loud or rude.

I leave them with a sitter that I trust sometimes because I know that the outing would be easier on the whole world if they stay at home, but sometimes I just want to be with my kids and the social environment is good for them. I am not about to leave my kids at home so that I can go to the mall just because some MA wants to be a bitch to me and the kids when they aren't doing anything wrong. I WILL spank them if they act up and leave if they are being too much for the people around them.

This reminds me of my experiences with the MAC stores here. I have a pro store and a free standing ... and both of them completely ignore me if I go in with my kids. Even if the kids are being quiet and in strollers (which they always are) they act like I am not even standing there for twenty minutes waiting for them. I actually got upset (I mean literally in tears upset) with the manager of one store because I went in with them on a Tuesday afternoon ... was one of three customers in the store ... and they still ignored my presence. However ... if I go in by myself I get swamped by sales people because they know that I spend serious cash on MAC.

As a mom it hurts and upsets me that people wouldn't want my kids around in a public place. I of course would not take them to an adult store or somewhere they would be an obvious distraction (adult movies, etc.) ... but if I want to go eat at Pappadeaux's (semi-expensive and usually upscale) and take my kids with me people can kiss my rear that my kids are there. They deserve a good meal just like everyone else ... and I would rather spend my money on a nice dinner for them than a babysitter.

I am a mom ... not a damn corpse ... and if you have a problem with my kids being somewhere feel free to tell me. If they are really being rude I will make them apologize to you and I will apologize as well and do my best to rectify the situation. If they are just being normal kids then I will promptly thank you for your input and ignore your unfounded complaints.
 

AdlersMommy22

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Originally Posted by AngelBunny
I am a mom with two toddlers ... both boys ... one four and the other two. I will be the first to admit they are handfuls, but they are also incredibly sweet children and I am not just saying that because they are mine. They have the same issues every other toddler does ... short attention span, neediness, inquisitive mind, etc. They are not habitually loud or rude.

I leave them with a sitter that I trust sometimes because I know that the outing would be easier on the whole world if they stay at home, but sometimes I just want to be with my kids and the social environment is good for them. I am not about to leave my kids at home so that I can go to the mall just because some MA wants to be a bitch to me and the kids when they aren't doing anything wrong. I WILL spank them if they act up and leave if they are being too much for the people around them.

This reminds me of my experiences with the MAC stores here. I have a pro store and a free standing ... and both of them completely ignore me if I go in with my kids. Even if the kids are being quiet and in strollers (which they always are) they act like I am not even standing there for twenty minutes waiting for them. I actually got upset (I mean literally in tears upset) with the manager of one store because I went in with them on a Tuesday afternoon ... was one of three customers in the store ... and they still ignored my presence. However ... if I go in by myself I get swamped by sales people because they know that I spend serious cash on MAC.

As a mom it hurts and upsets me that people wouldn't want my kids around in a public place. I of course would not take them to an adult store or somewhere they would be an obvious distraction (adult movies, etc.) ... but if I want to go eat at Pappadeaux's (semi-expensive and usually upscale) and take my kids with me people can kiss my rear that my kids are there. They deserve a good meal just like everyone else ... and I would rather spend my money on a nice dinner for them than a babysitter.

I am a mom ... not a damn corpse ... and if you have a problem with my kids being somewhere feel free to tell me. If they are really being rude I will make them apologize to you and I will apologize as well and do my best to rectify the situation. If they are just being normal kids then I will promptly thank you for your input and ignore your unfounded complaints.


God, I want to make out with you- thats how much I agree with your statement, LOL
 

AngelBunny

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Originally Posted by AdlersMommy22
God, I want to make out with you- thats how much I agree with your statement, LOL

Oh honey ... if you only knew the girl-crush I have on you! Anyone who makes babies that cute has got to be a vixen.
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sharkbytes

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I'm a private tutor for kids, so you can best believe I've seen the entire spectrum of bad parenting. And I say bad parenting because, frankly, most of these kids have been raised to think that they're princes/princesses. I've seen actual tiaras, and high-end jewelry on 7 year olds, and I've seen little boys who didn't know how to read and whose parents NEVER realized it.

I'm not a parent, don't want to be, but I do find myself being unintentionally roped into parenting these kids when they're in my sessions. I let them know right off the bat that I will not tolerate any rudeness or disrespect. I know most kids can't sit still for 90 minutes-2 hours, so believe me, I do grant a little leeway when they've been working hard.

Here's the kicker: Bad parents are AMAZED at how well their kids respond to me. Um, yeah. Kids actually WANT discipline. They don't want their momma to be their friend, they want to feel safe and secure. Good parents, however, are never surprised to hear how well behaved their child was during tutoring.

I don't even have to be mean! I've never even so much as raised my voice to a child. It's all about letting a child know that they aren't the ones in charge, and that when they behave badly they won't get to do what they want.
 

Dani

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I think children shouldn't be allowed anywhere where their parent or gaurdian isn't going to give them proper attention, or where they wouldn't be willing to take a fussy child outside to calm down. Otherwise, I'm happy to see parents spending time with their kids!! Just not when they expect the other people (namely sales associates, waiters, etc.) to act as baby sitters while they go about their buisness. I tried to make that as fair to both sides of the arguement and I hope nobody finds it offensive
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That being said, here comes the retail vent!!
Your child should not be running up the down escalator
Your child should not be running through the aisles and knocking down displays while you complain about it being unfair that your coupon expired last month
Your child should not be IN OUR BREAKROOM
Your child should not be behind the cash register
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SassyMochaJess

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Well my son is a typical 3 year old he tests me all the time. In public and at home. My son is good with mannered as far as please, thank you, excuse me.... but he gets out of hand as many of the children his age do forget about it!! Does that make me a bad parent? I see its always easy for people who don't even have children knows best. IRL you can not dump your kids off to a sitter or whomever just cuz you going to the mall, supermarket or a FAMILY restaurant. Now some kids learned from parents who are just bad examples. but others like myself have kids that are well gonna be kids.
 
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