To Tell or not to Tell

blazeno.8

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This is really long, so if you just want to see where you guys come in, skip down to the bold face that says "where you come in".
Ok, so I have really been debating whether or not I should ask anyone about this, but here goes:

There is this person I know who seems to be not the greatest with interpersonal relationships and when I first met him I didn't really notice that. We chatted and it was cool, I relearned his names several times because I'm not the greatest with names.
One day when I was headed to class and kind of late, this guy stops me to chat, but I tell him that I have to go because I'm late and he's like "Oh, so you're just going to end the conversation like that? Fine walk away from the conversation!" I mean, I had made it quite clear that I was going to class so wtf with that response?

Another day I was having brunch with a good friend at a table and this guy comes to our table (invites himself to sit) and then our conversation completely turns to him. He talked about how some people characterized him as "obsessive" and how he sees that it might be true. Later on that week, I was having dinner with my friend (a favorite past time activity is having dinner and chatting in Spanish). This guy comes and sits down and called my friend a Cassanova. This bothered my friend because he didn't really know the guy and he just made a call about his personality. Granted, a lot of girls think my friend is a flirt because things that are culturally normal for my friend is considered flirting here.

In short, after this, I was walking home and and this guy found me on my way home and told me that I was someone who hated life because I told him that my coffee was cold after he had assumed it was warm. He probably thought he was making a joke, but it's just something that side swipes you from left field and you can't really "appreciate it's humorous value".

Later on I found out that he was looking at what I was doing over my shoulder in one of our computer labs because of comments that he would make about things I was doing on my computer and after that day, I just started to ignore him. It took him a while to catch onto what I was doing, but eventually he got it... or so I thought.

Recently he's been trying to butt into my conversations with other people or get a conversation going with me from conversations I'm having with other people. He even did it with one of our professors, but the problem is that most people respond to him so I usually end up killing the conversation by not responding the part of the conversation that he initiated. If he weren't trying to talk to me, then he would just continue the conversation with them (which happens every now and then), but all to often the whole conversation just dies. I thought it was territorial at first, someone ignores you and then you feel the need to reassert your space, but it seems a little more than that because he's reasserted his space. People don't ignore him just because I'm around. Maybe I'm just still too dominant in that I can control the conversation through silence which he can't do.

I even notice that it's extended from conversations to stares and personal space. I noticed before that he would look at me in a way that I didn't too much care for, but now I've noticed him out and out staring at me. I even noticed that he's gotten closer to me than I've cared for him to be at times when he's trying to butt into conversations with other people.

Other people have told me that he behaves strangely, but I get the feeling it's just a question of conversational cues with them and not extended staring sessions or getting extremely close to them. He even got into a confrontation with a friend of mine in my department who is one of the most gentle people you could ever imagine, and this confrontation happened at a "study get together [party]" that people in my department were having for our juniors. This guy isn't even in our department but probably saw people hanging out and wanted to join in.

Where you come in:

I don't know if I should talk to him and tell him why I don't want anything to have to do with him. I don't know if he fully understands (I think he does because at sometimes he's admitted that he jumped into the middle of conversations when he shouldn't have), but at the same time I'm worried that if I do talk to him he will take it as "extreme measures = response". What would you guys suggest?
 

Lissa

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I'm not sure what to suggest, but he sounds really strange so I would be very wary of what I said to him. The staring and getting into your personal space is a little scary, as is inviting himself places he wasn't asked. I would go very carefully with this one, I don't know but he gives me the creeps. Is there any way you can avoid him totally? It doesn't really sound like it since he finds you out anyway.
 

blazeno.8

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I'm not sure that I can because the only public space on campus that has 24 hour access to students he frequents all the time (the party we had was at 2:45 am-3:30 am). This is also the only place that I can print a major assignment of mine because I've found out through trial and error that these computers are the only ones on campus that print the special characters that I need to appear in this work.

He's not the only strange one that we have here (some other dude told me that Americans lived their lives as if they couldn't tell fact from fiction and used fire alarms as an example <-- what?), but he's the only strange one who I feel tries to get into my personal space.
 

Willa

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It sounds creepy to me!

I would immediatly tell him that I am not interessed to pursue any conversation/relation with him.

Also, telling him that, I would be very carefull with the words I use, so he doesnt think you're trying to go away just to flirt. I don't know exactly how to tell it, but you know, someone who is mentality unstable (in this example obssessive) can't really understand when you tell them you're not interessed.

You should take a look at this page
How to prevent

They are saying this :

a) Make it completely clear that a relationship is not wanted now or in the future.
-Say this only once.
-Use plain language.
-Try not to be emotional.
-Avoid using threatening or humiliating language.
-You may want to rehearse with a friend before speaking with the stalker.

(b) Do not engage in further discussions with the stalker.
-Do not argue with them.
-Do not negotiate with them.
-Ongoing communication will reward the stalker and lead him to maintain contact.

Be careful not to unintentionally encourage the stalker
(a) Never initiate contact with the stalker. They may misperceive this to indicate that you are interested in them.
(b) Statements like, "I'm sorry, but I'm just not interested in a relationship at the moment," or "I'm too busy for this right now," may imply that you could be interested in a relationship some time in the future.
(c) Statements like, "I already have a boyfriend," may be interpreted as "I'd go out with you but for my boyfriend."
(d) Do not let them down easy by delivering your rejection in installments. This will only needlessly prolong the relationship. This may give the stalker hope or give his obsession with you time to grow.
(e) Do not return unsolicited letters of gifts. This may prove to the stalker that he is connecting with you


I hope it helps!
Let us know about this story, I'm still creeped for you
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V15U4L_3RR0R

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This might be crazy and I could be completely way off the mark but it sounds to me as if he has Aspergers almost?

I would make it plain and clear using non confrontation and impersonal language that his behavior is not on and you don't wish any further contact with him. If he doesn't or it escalates then you can always get teachers involved to mediate.
 

blazeno.8

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Originally Posted by V15U4L_3RR0R
This might be crazy and I could be completely way off the mark but it sounds to me as if he has Aspergers almost?

I would make it plain and clear using non confrontation and impersonal language that his behavior is not on and you don't wish any further contact with him. If he doesn't or it escalates then you can always get teachers involved to mediate.


Hm... that's an interesting suggestion. I'll look up more about it. Thank you.
 

chocodcocoa

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Originally Posted by V15U4L_3RR0R
This might be crazy and I could be completely way off the mark but it sounds to me as if he has Aspergers almost?

I would make it plain and clear using non confrontation and impersonal language that his behavior is not on and you don't wish any further contact with him. If he doesn't or it escalates then you can always get teachers involved to mediate.


I was under the impression that individuals with Aspergers don't voluntarily engage in personal or social contact with others... like Autism without the cognitive impairments.

This guy sounds like a total creep. I would alert your friends just in case he does something crazy. But I second that you should talk to him in a non-confrontational manner.
 

blazeno.8

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Well from what I read about Asperger's on Wikipedia, it sounds dead on. I think that's what it could be. They mentioned that people with Asperger's are generally not shy about engaging in conversation.
 

V15U4L_3RR0R

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Well from my understanding, people who have Aspergers tend to latch on to one person which is what this situation sounds like to me. People with Aspergers are very articulate but they're not good with groups of people or social situations but with one on one they're ok. That's my understanding of it.

Aspergers is on the lower end of the Autistic spectrum though. I will also say that I don't think it's fair to say that people with autism are cognitively impaired though quite apart from the fact people can be on different places on the Autistic Spectrum.
 
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