Obviously, most people adore Subculture. I do not, it was a pain to make show up on my lips and the result was disappointing (my lip color, but lighter and more tan, not in a good way). I like Whirl much better. It's richer and pinker than Subculture, but still fairly natural looking. Cedar, a soft pink, is nice too. If you're looking for a more beige nude, Oak is my favorite.
Subculture, Whirl, or even Pink Treat depending on your natural lip color - which should be the shade of your lipliner, because it is very versatile and simply makes your lipsticks last longer.
yes, subculture is good enough for all of them..the next would be SPICE. it's a more neutral color..and i have to add that it goes well with Cherish l/s and Instant Gold lustreglass. =)