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user79
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One thing I've noticed about the show in general is the way morals and values are presented, especially surrounding sexual behavior of the girls versus the guys. When Dixon lost his virginity, to an older woman no less, there was not much discussion surrounding it and he didn't have a lot of thoughts prior to it. But when Annie took naked pics with some dude, suddenly she was a big slut at school and her pic got leaked everywhere. Her mother even said point blank in one scene that there is a double standard and women's sexual reputation must remain spotless.
Also when Dixon "almost" got Sasha pregnant, and also Adriana got preggo, it seems like the writers always wrote that in to show the "terrible consequences" of sex for women. Either their reputation was at stake, or they got pregnant. And now Sasha even has HIV! Jesus, I mean, haven't these kids ever heard of condoms? I dunno it's just something I noticed - when the guys have sex all is fine and dandy, when the women have sex they either get raped, dumped, called a slut, or end up getting STDs. It's really aggravating.
Oh also the way the show handled the pregnancy issues of Adriana and Sasha (even tho she wasn't.) It seems like abortion was never even an option, like any "good" woman would choose to have the baby or give it up for adoption, whereas the greedy and "bad" woman would opt for an abortion.
Also the fact that Annie and Dixon's mom doesn't have a college degree or a steady job, and now that her husband left she's pretty much financially destitute - I don't know all these things really irritate me. They push some really old-fashioned and "good Christian" values and morals on the audience who probably don't even pick up on these things consciously, but it's definitely there.
I still like the show, corny as it is, but those themes just detract from it I think.
BTW I soooooo wanted Liam and Ivy to be a real couple, they had chemistry and it made sense. I didn't like Liam with Naomi, another bad match. Ivy and Dixon are the worst couple!!! I just don't find them believable at all, their personalities are so different. I actually liked Annie with Jasper, even though he turned out to be a bit of a weirdo. Hopefully she'll get together with Liam now.
My least fav actor on the show is Teddy, he's like 31 years old something, I have no idea why they would cast him as a high schooler. He just looks so much older than the other cast members. I mean Mr. Matthews is cast as his teacher and he's only 26! I just can't stand his smug face - ugh! Apparently the storyline will be that he's going to come out of the closet soon.
Good characters: Ivy, Liam, Annie, Naomi, Jasper, Oscar
Snooze characters: Adrianna, Navid, Silver, Teddy, Dixon
Also when Dixon "almost" got Sasha pregnant, and also Adriana got preggo, it seems like the writers always wrote that in to show the "terrible consequences" of sex for women. Either their reputation was at stake, or they got pregnant. And now Sasha even has HIV! Jesus, I mean, haven't these kids ever heard of condoms? I dunno it's just something I noticed - when the guys have sex all is fine and dandy, when the women have sex they either get raped, dumped, called a slut, or end up getting STDs. It's really aggravating.
Oh also the way the show handled the pregnancy issues of Adriana and Sasha (even tho she wasn't.) It seems like abortion was never even an option, like any "good" woman would choose to have the baby or give it up for adoption, whereas the greedy and "bad" woman would opt for an abortion.
Also the fact that Annie and Dixon's mom doesn't have a college degree or a steady job, and now that her husband left she's pretty much financially destitute - I don't know all these things really irritate me. They push some really old-fashioned and "good Christian" values and morals on the audience who probably don't even pick up on these things consciously, but it's definitely there.
I still like the show, corny as it is, but those themes just detract from it I think.
BTW I soooooo wanted Liam and Ivy to be a real couple, they had chemistry and it made sense. I didn't like Liam with Naomi, another bad match. Ivy and Dixon are the worst couple!!! I just don't find them believable at all, their personalities are so different. I actually liked Annie with Jasper, even though he turned out to be a bit of a weirdo. Hopefully she'll get together with Liam now.
My least fav actor on the show is Teddy, he's like 31 years old something, I have no idea why they would cast him as a high schooler. He just looks so much older than the other cast members. I mean Mr. Matthews is cast as his teacher and he's only 26! I just can't stand his smug face - ugh! Apparently the storyline will be that he's going to come out of the closet soon.
Good characters: Ivy, Liam, Annie, Naomi, Jasper, Oscar
Snooze characters: Adrianna, Navid, Silver, Teddy, Dixon
Wow i hadn't really thought about the themes like that before. But you are very accurate with it all. Now you mention it, all the themes and such seem a little dated now in their views.
and yes i agree about Teddy - he is my least fave character too - not because he looks like he could be one of the students fathers, but because i think his character is a bit of an ass. Mr Matthews i do like though!
and yes i agree about Teddy - he is my least fave character too - not because he looks like he could be one of the students fathers, but because i think his character is a bit of an ass. Mr Matthews i do like though!
Junkie
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I was kinda thinking about where the storyline could possibly go with certain characters...
Like Adrianna right now - her and that manager. I'm hoping that the $2000 she gave away will kinda be the final straw. I can totally see the skeezy manager looking for sexual perks later on in the show if it carries on - more blackmail.
Oscar - gah the plot just keeps getting crazier and crazier. I don't really see what sort of domination he's getting at with sleeping with both Laurel (and trying) to get into Ivy's pants as well when he apparently hates Laurel for ruining his dad's life. Only time will tell.
As for Dixon - I see him not showing up to Ivy's for obvious reasons and then not telling her, they get into a fight, blah blah blah....and he quietly deals with it without telling anyone. Then maybe Oscar makes his move and tells Ivy that he saw Dixon with Sasha?
Those are my ideas so far
Haha!
Like Adrianna right now - her and that manager. I'm hoping that the $2000 she gave away will kinda be the final straw. I can totally see the skeezy manager looking for sexual perks later on in the show if it carries on - more blackmail.
Oscar - gah the plot just keeps getting crazier and crazier. I don't really see what sort of domination he's getting at with sleeping with both Laurel (and trying) to get into Ivy's pants as well when he apparently hates Laurel for ruining his dad's life. Only time will tell.
As for Dixon - I see him not showing up to Ivy's for obvious reasons and then not telling her, they get into a fight, blah blah blah....and he quietly deals with it without telling anyone. Then maybe Oscar makes his move and tells Ivy that he saw Dixon with Sasha?
Those are my ideas so far
user79
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I think your prediction is prob really accurate. I'm willing to bet that Dixon does eventually get tested but of course he will be HIV negative. And again, boy has learned his lesson!
I think Liam is cute but Teddy not so much. Meh! Oscar is hot tho, he looks like a mixed race? Very exotic looking.
Originally Posted by Junkie
As for Dixon - I see him not showing up to Ivy's for obvious reasons and then not telling her, they get into a fight, blah blah blah....and he quietly deals with it without telling anyone. Then maybe Oscar makes his move and tells Ivy that he saw Dixon with Sasha? Those are my ideas so far
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I think your prediction is prob really accurate. I'm willing to bet that Dixon does eventually get tested but of course he will be HIV negative. And again, boy has learned his lesson!
I think Liam is cute but Teddy not so much. Meh! Oscar is hot tho, he looks like a mixed race? Very exotic looking.
user79
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He's an American actor. His Brit accent is pretty horrible, I agree.
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yeah spot on Junkie! i bet that is what happens with Dixon! Oscar is quite hot however the english accent is a bit too much for me... i wonder if he is actually fron england? because his accent to me sounds like te classic Brittish accent that people do! |
He's an American actor. His Brit accent is pretty horrible, I agree.
Junkie
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I was glad that the storyline with Naomi and Silver and Mr. Cannon didn't stretch on and on....I hate it when they do that! I've read the synopsis for the next episode - looks like Silver is going to try and seduce Mr. Cannon to try and prove he raped Naomi....I figured that would happen too. He's such a creeper.
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that explains it then!
but still pretty to look at!
hee hee!
and Mr Cannon is a total creep - but perhaps he is actually english because his accent is much better!
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He's an American actor. His Brit accent is pretty horrible, I agree.
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that explains it then!
and Mr Cannon is a total creep - but perhaps he is actually english because his accent is much better!
user79
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This show is soooo predictable. The Dixon HIV Ivy thing totally played out like predicted.
The Jenn-baby storyline is getting on my nerves. I don't care about her, I wish she wouldn't be on the show at all anymore.
I also don't like the Annie-college boy-dating storyline. She's just some guy she met in a coffee shop I mean his character is so flat. Just let her finally get together with Liam and that's that. I wish the romance plots wouldn't be so drawn out, what's wrong with having a steady couple on the show?
Actually so far, I don't like any of the storylines really. I'm glad there's less focus on Adrianna tho, I thought her character was so contrite. I hope things pick up otherwise I won't be watching much longer...
The Jenn-baby storyline is getting on my nerves. I don't care about her, I wish she wouldn't be on the show at all anymore.
I also don't like the Annie-college boy-dating storyline. She's just some guy she met in a coffee shop I mean his character is so flat. Just let her finally get together with Liam and that's that. I wish the romance plots wouldn't be so drawn out, what's wrong with having a steady couple on the show?
Actually so far, I don't like any of the storylines really. I'm glad there's less focus on Adrianna tho, I thought her character was so contrite. I hope things pick up otherwise I won't be watching much longer...
Junkie
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So Mr. Cannon is actually MIA now - wonder if they just completely killed him off for a reason? Or if he'll show up in future episodes? But now atleast Naomi can put off court...although I wonder if it'll spread around highschool anyways and people will start acting funny around her or giving her a hard time? And it would be nice to see where her and Oscar will end up....who else LOL'ed when she blew him off?! HAHAHAHA!!!! Serves him right.
I knew Ivy would tell Dixon and he'd be mad and walk away. Is that all this show IS?! Seems as though everyone takes turns being mad at eachother and then forgiving. lmao I should know better...its HIGH SCHOOL....thats exactly how it was for me too lol! (But with way less hot people, fashion and far-fetched drama of course)
And I really wanna know where Annie is going to end up with her mom's debt and whatever....that kinda just dropped off the radar after she started dating Liam's brother. And then the whole scar issue on their backs? I'm guessing their father beat the crap out of them or something....and then they'll eventually forgive eachother and bond over it...ha.
Oh! And now this new character with Naveed and underage porn stars? WTF...who ARE these writers?!
Anyone else have more predictions?
I knew Ivy would tell Dixon and he'd be mad and walk away. Is that all this show IS?! Seems as though everyone takes turns being mad at eachother and then forgiving. lmao I should know better...its HIGH SCHOOL....thats exactly how it was for me too lol! (But with way less hot people, fashion and far-fetched drama of course)
And I really wanna know where Annie is going to end up with her mom's debt and whatever....that kinda just dropped off the radar after she started dating Liam's brother. And then the whole scar issue on their backs? I'm guessing their father beat the crap out of them or something....and then they'll eventually forgive eachother and bond over it...ha.
Oh! And now this new character with Naveed and underage porn stars? WTF...who ARE these writers?!
Anyone else have more predictions?
yes the underage porn star thing is insane! but i think it could be quite a good meaty storyline. And what will finally happen with adrianna and the manager? now she's all happy that she has the cover of a magazine because she did it topless! crazyness! oh and did anybody else pick up on the Naveed/Silver thing this week? i wouldnt be shocked if they had a 'moment'!
Junkie
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I was completely not ready for Jen leaving! But it kinda makes sense....her giving Naomi a key...telling her she could have whatever clothes she wanted. She probably felt inclined since she practically abandoned Jacques.
I'm kinda waiting on whats gonna happen with Dixon and Annie's mom...had me thinking there for bit that she is/was gonna hook up with Mr. Matthews! I bet they will...now that Jen is gone!
I'm kinda waiting on whats gonna happen with Dixon and Annie's mom...had me thinking there for bit that she is/was gonna hook up with Mr. Matthews! I bet they will...now that Jen is gone!
yes i was shocked at jen leaving. however i'm also pleased because i didnt like her that much and there's not much more they could have done with her i guess. and yes i can totally see their mum and mr matthews (who is very attractive btw!) getting together!
Junkie
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Woot! Called it Hahaha! They totally did - just watched this weeks episode. Now lets see how long or if and when the relationship progresses and she ends up like...."adopting" Jacques and Mr. Matthews....I bet Jen will come back after they establish all that and just bugger everything up!
Now that Naveed's dad is gone, I wonder if the family is going to lose everything? They live a pretty lavish lifestyle and I'll bet that the money in Amercian accounts will probably be frozen or something and they'll have to either move back to Iran with the dad or downscale everything completely. Sad.
And I'm totally wondering when Liam and Charlie will bond over their shared abuse?
I can also see Naveed and Silver hooking up and secretly dating while Adrianna is too self-obsessed to notice.
Hahaha! They totally did - just watched this weeks episode. Now lets see how long or if and when the relationship progresses and she ends up like...."adopting" Jacques and Mr. Matthews....I bet Jen will come back after they establish all that and just bugger everything up!Now that Naveed's dad is gone, I wonder if the family is going to lose everything? They live a pretty lavish lifestyle and I'll bet that the money in Amercian accounts will probably be frozen or something and they'll have to either move back to Iran with the dad or downscale everything completely. Sad.
And I'm totally wondering when Liam and Charlie will bond over their shared abuse?
I can also see Naveed and Silver hooking up and secretly dating while Adrianna is too self-obsessed to notice.
user79
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I'm pretty sure Adrianna and Navid will break up very very soon. Navid will turn poor and find solace with Silver, Adrianna will find out something's going on between those two and Silver and Adrianna will have a falling out eventually. Or Silver and Navid will sneak around and try to keep it secret, and have a secret affair.
Teddy will be caught by his friends or something making out or kissing another dude, maybe that gay guy from school. Then he'll have to come out of the closet and it will put a strain on his friendships, but they'll eventually accept him back into their fold.
This show is pretty predictable! lol
Teddy will be caught by his friends or something making out or kissing another dude, maybe that gay guy from school. Then he'll have to come out of the closet and it will put a strain on his friendships, but they'll eventually accept him back into their fold.
This show is pretty predictable! lol
well i must say that 90210 has been one of my favourite programs to watch recently. i loved this weeks episode and i think that Naomi having a secret relationship with the nerdy but cute guy is quite amusing. plus i can't wait to see what happens to silver after adrianna leaked the photo of her!
