MAC - Cham Pale Discussion
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JennsJewelz
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Hmm, I'd never heard that! I'll probably stay away then, because my skin is pretty sensitive, but I don't think that should deter a lot of people... it seems like many ladies here have only had positive experiences! The only thing I DO know is that Lavender products should not be ingested during pregnancy or for breastfeeding...but who would be drinking their Fix+?!?!
Alty
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You might try getting a vial of pure lavender essential oil. It isn't very expensive and if you have any reactions you can still use it for your home, in a diffuser, in little bags to perfume your closet/drowers etc...
You must be careful though. There are a lot of "fake" essential oils out there. I'm afraid all of my sources are in italian but you should read some guide on how to recognize a pure, natural essential oil. Most "scented oils", "lavender oils" and similar are just fragrance.
Now I had never heard of cosmetic cop before, but I've looked around a bit and read the ingredient lists of some products they sell, and well let's just say they don't meet my concept of "healthy" skincare. I wouldn't put petroleum or silicone on my skin on a daily basis.
Don't get me wrong, I do buy makeup products that have these ingredients, I know a bit of silicone in my concealer or paraffin in my mascara won't kill me, but makeup is meant to decorate. I wouldn't buy a product that claims to moisturize my skin thanks to the emollient properties of petrolatum, because I know it just won't work and do worse instead.
Oh I was almost forgetting: I went to my MAC counter today and they still had the greasepaint sticks
I'll let you know if it works! For the moment I can say it does show on my waterline but it's different from my usual technakohl or fluidline, it doesn't have the same consistency and it looks…liquid
sss215
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I use the lavender Dr/ Bronner's magic soap and i am pretty okay with it. I am going to get the lavender items from bloomies or nordies since they have an unlimited amount of days on their return policies. MAC's 30 days may not be enough for me when it comes to skin care.
ThePowderPuff
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I get my information from published science and from reliable sources like Paula Begoun etc. and from those sources it's pretty clear that lavender is not good for your skin. Like any other essential poil it's basically just perfume and nothing else. And perfume really doesn't do anything good for your skin. On the contrary it can irritate and maybe cause allergies.
If you ask people who are in to aroma therapy and natural skincare they will most likely disagree and from those sources you will find many websites etc. stating that lavender is good for many things. But there is no scientific evidence to back that up. On the contrary it's just a fragrant perfume.
So it pretty much depends on which sources you prefer to listen to. I am NOT in to alternative medicine etc. I prefer everything to be scientifically profen before I put it on my skin. And when you look at lavender from at scientific point of view, there's not much good to be said about it. It's just perfume.
I know a lot of people believe that essential oils can have benefits for the skin, so it's really a matter of what you believe in. My point is: If you think lavender smells nice then get it. But it is just a special scent, so if you don't care about that scent you can might as well stick to the regular fix+. And not expose yourself to the fragrant ingredients
If you ask people who are in to aroma therapy and natural skincare they will most likely disagree and from those sources you will find many websites etc. stating that lavender is good for many things. But there is no scientific evidence to back that up. On the contrary it's just a fragrant perfume.
So it pretty much depends on which sources you prefer to listen to. I am NOT in to alternative medicine etc. I prefer everything to be scientifically profen before I put it on my skin. And when you look at lavender from at scientific point of view, there's not much good to be said about it. It's just perfume.
I know a lot of people believe that essential oils can have benefits for the skin, so it's really a matter of what you believe in. My point is: If you think lavender smells nice then get it. But it is just a special scent, so if you don't care about that scent you can might as well stick to the regular fix+. And not expose yourself to the fragrant ingredients
ThePowderPuff
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You might try getting a vial of pure lavender essential oil. It isn't very expensive and if you have any reactions you can still use it for your home, in a diffuser, in little bags to perfume your closet/drowers etc...
You must be careful though. There are a lot of "fake" essential oils out there. I'm afraid all of my sources are in italian but you should read some guide on how to recognize a pure, natural essential oil. Most "scented oils", "lavender oils" and similar are just fragrance.
Now I had never heard of cosmetic cop before, but I've looked around a bit and read the ingredient lists of some products they sell, and well let's just say they don't meet my concept of "healthy" skincare. I wouldn't put petroleum or silicone on my skin on a daily basis.
Don't get me wrong, I do buy makeup products that have these ingredients, I know a bit of silicone in my concealer or paraffin in my mascara won't kill me, but makeup is meant to decorate. I wouldn't buy a product that claims to moisturize my skin thanks to the emollient properties of petrolatum, because I know it just won't work and do worse instead.
Oh I was almost forgetting: I went to my MAC counter today and they still had the greasepaint sticksI had not seen them when I went for my VV haul but it was probably due to the great confusion for the launch. Of course I took it home with me
Pertrolatum and silicone are some of the best tested ingredients out there and veryt safe for your skin. I will put that on my skin anytime rather than fragrant oils. And petrolatum and petroleum are not the same at all. Petrolatum is a great emolient. Petroleum is a fuel.
Paula Begoun is a well known consumer advocate and author about skincare and makeup. She also sells her own products, but she's not just a random website.
ansimi
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I couldn't get through Canadian Winter without petrolatum and siliconePertrolatum and silicone are some of the best tested ingredients out there and veryt safe for your skin. I will put that on my skin anytime rather than fragrant oils. And petrolatum and petroleum are not the same at all. Petrolatum is a great emolient. Petroleum is a fuel.
Paula Begoun is a well known consumer advocate and author about skincare and makeup. She also sells her own products, but she's not just a random website.
Well, maybe I could use whale blubber or something like that but I'd rather not.I've held a bit of a grudge against Ms. Begoun since stance against blue eyeshadow but her website is a great resource.
banana1234
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*shrugs* maybe something is being lost in translation? i dont know, but lavender certainly helps mosquito bites etc, its naturally antiseptic. and its good for oily skin...
maybe we can all agree to disagreee?
one of my favourite lush products, love lettuce face mask uses lavender
maybe we can all agree to disagreee?
one of my favourite lush products, love lettuce face mask uses lavender
ThePowderPuff
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Pertrolatum and silicone are some of the best tested ingredients out there and veryt safe for your skin. I will put that on my skin anytime rather than fragrant oils. And petrolatum and petroleum are not the same at all. Petrolatum is a great emolient. Petroleum is a fuel.
Paula Begoun is a well known consumer advocate and author about skincare and makeup. She also sells her own products, but she's not just a random website.
I couldn't get through Canadian Winter without petrolatum and silicone
I've held a bit of a grudge against Ms. Begoun since stance against blue eyeshadow but her website is a great resource.
I completely disagree with everything she says about looks and colours. If it was up to her we would never wear anything but brown eyeshadow LOL. But she knows about skincare, ingredients and product formulation, that's for sure. I use her websites a lot!
ThePowderPuff
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There's no research or evidence about lavender being good for oily skin. But ofcourse, if that's your experience lets agree to disagree
I completely agree with that :-D
ansimi
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The fact that I react soo violently to anything with lavender in it leads me to believe it does have some special properties. I'm actually surprised if there's no scientific research to back that up. Lavender is a big industry in France.
I get itchy just walking past the Lush store
People have given me some nice gifts from there but I can't go in.
ThePowderPuff
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It's just really fragrant I guess. Yeah I know about it in france. But I think there's no doubt that the smell can feel relaxing, you just want to get it from somewhere other than on your skin.The fact that I react soo violently to anything with lavender in it leads me to believe it does have some special properties. I'm actually surprised if there's no scientific research to back that up. Lavender is a big industry in France.
I get itchy just walking past the Lush store
I feel the same way about Lush. The smell alone gives me a headache. Yaiks!
caramel_geek
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Ooo...it's eye-opening to read and hear so much about lavender.
I've used stuff with lavender in it, and never had any problems. So I guess it just depends on individual skin.
As for the lavender Fix+, I'm positive I'd be getting it. Unless it smells totally horrid IRL, which I doubt. If it does, I'd just get the normal Fix+, as I've ran out of it since 2 months ago. Now, I'm just using the charged water that I had from ages ago. To be honest, I much prefer Fix+ than charged water, though I know both serve a different purpose.
I've used stuff with lavender in it, and never had any problems. So I guess it just depends on individual skin.
As for the lavender Fix+, I'm positive I'd be getting it. Unless it smells totally horrid IRL, which I doubt. If it does, I'd just get the normal Fix+, as I've ran out of it since 2 months ago. Now, I'm just using the charged water that I had from ages ago. To be honest, I much prefer Fix+ than charged water, though I know both serve a different purpose.
sss215
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lavender was used in MAC's Volcanic Ash Thermal Mask from Style Black. That was a favorite and was marketed to those with acne prone skin. Some people with oily skin usually fit into that category and it worked really nicely. I wonder how many people knew lavender was in it.
GlammySammy
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well now i'm in a whole 'nother pickle! I have acne prone skin but unfortunately it's dry, not oily... I'm still on the fence I guess.
sss215
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let me change that to some people...
liba
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It might not be bad for using to set eyeshadow or applying pigments, but it sounds like you'd be better off with a toning lotion or toner from a company that specializes in skin care. I love Fix+ for setting makeup, but for applying before I moisturize, I still stick with Clarins for my dry, sensitive skin.
lilithsnake6
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I plan on buying all of the lavender items (at least if they smell the way I think they will) since I love the smell. Scientifically, from what I can gather from scientific journals, there's no evidence both ways. No one can prove lavender does help oily skin nor can anyone prove it cannot. Lavender can irritate the skin if you're sensitive like any floral. There's a good article from Phytotherapy Research's journal about the issue, saying it's hard to test extracts (actual oils not perfumes) but that traditional medicines have used lavender for centuries. So both sides are pretty right, it depends on personal experience I think. Also, when buying essential oils especially online be really careful, lots of people get scammed.
