MAC Hey, Sailor! (Summer 2012) Discussion

OhSoJaded

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Quote: Originally Posted by Audrey C

All I want is the right foundation. Is that too much to ask? I've been told I'm NC30, NC25-27, NC35-40 (?!), C4 and now N3. All in a week.
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Haha, I know the feeling. Over the course of a week, I got matched to NC 42, which blew my mind b/c while I'm not super fair skinned, I knew I wasn't THAT dark. Got matched later on (by two different MUA) and was told that I was NC25-NC30, which was what i originally thought I was.
 

Audrey C

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That is really bad....
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It's frustrating. I usually wear Studio Moisture Tint in medium and Blot Powder in medium. Both are fine, but they aren't covering the redness in my cheeks. I went in to a counter and was sold a mineralized powder that gave me cystic acne. Scratch that. Took it back and they matched me to Studio Fix Powder NC30 (after suggesting NC35). When I went outside with that, I looked like my face was dirty. I went back in and they went down to NC30.

It wasn't really right either and I happened to mention at the counter that MAC foundations just aren't right for me. The artist who often helps me asked what I had and said I was at most a NC25 and to please bring the Studio Fix back. I did, but she was gone by then and the next person tried to match me to C4 (Careblend?). I mentioned that it seemed dark and she said that it was a match for NC35-40. It's ridiculous. I feel like they're matching the darkest part of my cheeks, not my jawline. That artist insisted that my face was darker than my neck and chest (about NC25). I didn't buy the C4; when I went outside I looked like I had a mask on.

I went to the freestanding store and asked the MUA I really like to help. He asked what I was trying to accomplish (natural looking coverage but tone down the redness) and he matched me to N3. I asked about the undertone thing and he said that he felt it would be better at toning down the colour.

Mac Guy mentioned that N colours usually mean NW (clearly not me) so I'm second guessing the N3. I'm just commitment phobic at this point.

Update: I just called MAC back and had a lengthy conversation with a senior artist who said she's been there 14 years. She said that matching lighter tones can be tricky but finds N3 in Face and Body to be fairly neutral, and it's what she would recommend for me in that particular formula (but not in any others). I am happy with the N3 sample I've been using so I think I'll just go with that; it's certainly not as light as inner arms, but it's not noticeably darker than my neck and chest either and everything else has been (although I've obviously blended into my neck).
 

honey on boost

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Absolutely.


One a related note: My package is already out for delivery.
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So yes, overnight shipping can really work (in a literal sense), though usually it takes at least two days until it gets to me.
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That was fast!



Now I'm wondering if I should go back in and place another order for the bronzer and brush
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Mac-Guy

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Is it soft? I am thinking it might even work well for Guerlain meteorites
It's very soft. Love it!

Wouldn't use it for MSF though, but for softer products, such as the PLW bronzer, it is is ideal. However, using it with firmly pressed powders will cause the brush to splay.
 

Colorqueen

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It's very soft. Love it!

Wouldn't use it for MSF though, but for softer products, such as the PLW bronzer, it is is ideal. However, using it with firmly pressed powders will cause the brush to splay.
I wouldn't use it for MSF either. I prefer the 187 brush for that. However, powders that have a lighter sheerer texture I am thinking might do well with this brush.


How about applying to face w/ another brush and using this one to gently blend? I have the flat topped kabuki which is dense for intense blending, but wondering what purposes I could make this one work for.

Do you think it would work with the Guerlain meteorites? They are little balls that move around in the container, so not really a firm flat powder.
 

Audrey C

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It's very soft. Love it!

Wouldn't use it for MSF though, but for softer products, such as the PLW bronzer, it is is ideal. However, using it with firmly pressed powders will cause the brush to splay.
Mac-Guy, would you only recommend the brush for the PLW bronzers, or all bronzers? I'm torn between the 167 and 168 but want to buy one of them. Thanks. :)
 

Mac-Guy

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Mac-Guy, would you only recommend the brush for the PLW bronzers, or all bronzers? I'm torn between the 167 and 168 but want to buy one of them. Thanks. :)
I will only use it for the PLW's. As the product is so soft, a harder brush would pick up too much product.
 

martiangurll

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I am skipping all of the shadows from this one in favor of the EL Bronze Goddess eye palette for this year. The shadows in it are the cyber eye formulation and smooth as butter. Still getting both blushes, a bronzer (probably Sun Dipped), Handforged e/l and Sail La Vie l/s.

Here is a picture of the palette:

http://www.makeupandbeautyblog.com/cosmetics/an-estee-lauder-bronze-goddess-has-been-spotted-in-capri-the-new-bronze-goddess-capri-collection-coming-in-march/

I haven't been able to find pictures that do it justice but Karen has some nice swatches. The shadows have a metallic type finish.

MAC Guy, what is the name of the bronzer that you and Liba love so much? It is from a previous collection.
Glad you posted this! It may reveal that I like EL, which is said to be an old lady brand, hey, you got me there, but I think this palette takes out most of the other summer palettes I have seen. I did narrow my list for Hey Sailor accordingly, and I am skipping the blushes, most of the lippies and all that.

Crew, Nude On Board, Jaunty and Feeling Fresh, TCaS lipstick, Shore leave pencil and the tote. My final haul.
 

Audrey C

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I will only use it for the PLW's. As the product is so soft, a harder brush would pick up too much product.
Ok, thanks. So I'll pick the bronzer first and the brush second. I'm using my 116 for the Matte Bronze since I am really using it as a blusher/contour.
 

Mac-Guy

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Ok, thanks. So I'll pick the bronzer first and the brush second. I'm using my 116 for the Matte Bronze since I am really using it as a blusher/contour.
I don't think the 167 will work as a contouring brush. If you just use bronzers for contouring, you don't really need the 167.
 

Mac-Guy

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Glad you posted this! It may reveal that I like EL, which is said to be an old lady brand, hey, you got me there, but I think this palette takes out most of the other summer palettes I have seen. I did narrow my list for Hey Sailor accordingly, and I am skipping the blushes, most of the lippies and all that.

Crew, Nude On Board, Jaunty and Feeling Fresh, TCaS lipstick, Shore leave pencil and the tote. My final haul.
Haha, that's how I feel about EL, though I like their face powders. I used to buy them as I got my brows done at the EL brow bar and the grooming was "free" when you made a purchase.


PS: Are you sure about NoB?
 

Audrey C

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I don't think the 167 will work as a contouring brush. If you just use bronzers for contouring, you don't really need the 167.
I'm really just learning to use bronzers; I find Matte Bronze deep enough to serve as natural colour for my cheeks. I'm not sure whether NoB (or one of the others) would be better suited as an all over wash of colour. If it's a contour, 168. If it's used all over and is PLW, 167SH. Is that right?
 

LC

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They're viewable only by you, but they're 'thanks' you receive from people via the green thumb icon at the bottom of your post.
It;s weird because it says that i have 13673031055 thanks, but I really have only received like 5000 thanks. not sure where that huge number is coming from, lol
 

Colorqueen

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It;s weird because it says that i have 13673031055 thanks, but I really have only received like 5000 thanks. not sure where that huge number is coming from, lol
It is another way of saying that people were REALLY thankful when they said thanks. *chuckles*

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Spanky

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They're viewable only by you, but they're 'thanks' you receive from people via the green thumb icon at the bottom of your post.
It;s weird because it says that i have 13673031055 thanks, but I really have only received like 5000 thanks. not sure where that huge number is coming from, lol
I'd like to know what that # means as well please. Also what & how do u give or receive a unique thanks (rather than a regular, which is done by using the thumb, right)???
 

luvlydee

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I don't see why not. :)

I use my 182 for that, but this brush seems like it would be a great brush for all over application.
I have the 182 and the 183 but i really dont like how stubby the handles are thats why I was thinking about the 167. Am i wrong for that? lol
 

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