Nail Polish Discussion - Any Brand

Medgal07

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I did a mani with Keeping It Teal last night too, as a matter of fact. No glitter. Gonna put my thoughts below.
OK, so I bought all the CG neon jellies except the blue and have experimented with 'em and have done manicures in Heat Index and Keeping It Teal. Here's my lowdown:

These are JELLIES. SHEER JELLIES. Not all of them are equally sheer, but most of them are. SHEER JELLIES have their own really unique properties, that you kind of have to respect. It's a love it or leave it scenario. Yes you will see the nail line - not in all lights, but quite often. Just remember - YOU are noticing the nail line more than anyone else is going to. The light source really matters too - in some lights, just because of the way the light's hitting your hands, they'll seem more or less opaque. This is the beauty of jellies. I think we were seeing jellies that had more of that matte, rubbery finish that the clear, very shiny finish these have and sort of forgot what to expect out of them.

Now, on to the formula. I think it's excellent and not streaky at all, if you apply it with a few precautions. DO apply the first coat very thinly. Try not to even it out by going back over your strokes - that makes it streak - just use the brush as lightly as possible. It'll be sheer as hell! THEN, let the coat dry really well before you do your next coat. Now you have options - you can do a thick second coat, or do 2 thin coats - it will come out looking pretty much the same. Just allow the polish to SELF-LEVEL - these actually do that quite well - it doesn't seem like it will, and then it does, a minute later when it's drying. If you're doing 2 thin coats, you absolutely have to let them dry really well. You also have to let it dry super duper well before you apply a top coat or again, it will tug and streak. I think it's because this is a very glossy formula - the higher the gloss, the longer it takes to dry usually.

Base and top coat issues: The first mani I did was using Heat Index. I used Deborah Lippman's ridge filler base underneath, because it's a pale beige. I figured it'd minimize my nail line, which is pretty noticeable - my tips are much whiter than my nail beds, which are quite pink, and they start kind of low down on the nail. Also I figured being a bit beige, it'd brighten up the color of the polish. The result? It did make the polish appear a bit brighter under all lighting conditions, but at the expense of the translucent jelly finish - it made it more opaque looking and took away a lot of the uniqueness. My second mani, I used a clear base coat (the OPI Sephora standard one) and that was much better for my taste. I've used a top coat on both my manis, but I did feel like it did detract slightly from the natural finish of these. You HAVE to let everything dry to perfection before applying the top coat. I could see some top coats reacting weirdly to these too. You don't really need one to make it look good - the next mani I do with these, I'm probably going to skip the top coat entirely.

The thing about these jellies is that they go from looking much softer indoors and then outdoors in the sun, they get CRAZY bright and more dense looking. This is what's so nice about them - they're like neons that go from gentle and soft to super bold. They're just thrilling outdoors on a sunny day and indoors, they are much more demure. If you want bright 24/7, that's not what they're for. Even indoors, if a ray of light catches your nails, BOOM suddenly bright, but usually they're more dainty. I love this effect, but it took me a few days to get used to. You can definitely do an extra coat to make them more opaque or do them over the white or beige base like I was saying, but then you'd just be better off finding neon creams to use in the first place, seriously.

Finally, some individual notes on the colors. The purple Are You Jelly? is the most satin, rubbery, opaque style jelly of the bunch. It's not sheer (it's 95% opaque in 3 coats) or glossy and I think it'll be best to leave it without a glossy top coat to enhance the effect. Keeping It Teal is the most transparent of the ones I have (I didn't buy the blue), but it's so so gorgeous - it's a brilliant jade/emerald green that really goes from soft to intensely bright with the light - it's like looking into the heart of a cabochon emerald. So gorgeous. When I did this mani, I'd done a rather thick second coat on my left hand, but a thinner one on my right, so I did a third, thinner coat only on the right, and both hands look the same. Heat Index didn't operate so much like this - 3 thin coats looked more opaque then 2 thicker coats. Maybe this was because of the beige base coat, but it didn't look quite right - the more opaque you make these, the brighter they get under all light conditions, meaning that indoors, it often looked like you were wearing two different colors of polish. You need to be consistent when you do your nails with these. Heat Index is a standard, warmer pink - a bubblegum or barbie pink, while You Drive Me Coconuts is much more of a light magenta or fuchsia pink. Normally, if I had a choice, I'd take the more magenta color, but Heat Index is really nice as far as the transition between demure indoors to BRIGHT outdoors, so I really love it. You Drive Me Coconuts is the second most opaque and rubbery, after the purple. You could do a top coat on this one or not - it can go either way. It's more of a match to Candy Yum Yum or Pink Pigeon than Heat Index is. Shell-O is a pink coral and also super duper cute - looking soft and ladylike indoors and then VAVOOM bright outdoors. It's very similar to CG's very popular Flirty Tankini from last year - only brighter out in the sun.

What will be very nice is a pedi in the corresponding cream shade and a mani in the jelly, so they almost match, but don't. Also, I think you could get some really sweet effects from doing a french mani or other simple nail art design using the jelly as the base color and the corresponding cream as the accent. I want to talk about the creams too, but I'll do that later. I think this is a great collection if you want some colors that act pretty work safe indoors but immediately go bold in the sun or out at a club under colored lights. Love it - but it took me a week to wrap my mind around it!
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Also, exposing your polish to light on an open shelf isn't going to prolong its life. I keep mine tucked away in a cabinet, but I do regularly pull a few out to admire the colors. They all still look best on fingers and toes - I just make sure to change my color 2-3 a week to satisfy the urges!
Liba, I admire your ability to share your assessments so thoroughly. What a labor of love.
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You're amazing!! I expect to immediately employ some of your NP application tips regarding jellies. I was initially concerned about keeping my NP on open racks, which is why I have them in a corner of a room in which the door is always open. The door shields the racks from sunlight. In fact, the corner is so dark that I'm trying to find a light to mount in that corner so I can better see the colors when I'm selecting a polish. The room is also cool, again allaying my concerns about excess heat. I'm pleased with my setup and can say with a relative degree of certainty that my vast NP collection will out-live me.

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Honi

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It is actually thin shelves that have a "lip" that you usually use for displaying pictures in frames and such on (Frame shelves I think they're called). But I reckoned they would be perfect for nailpolishes aswell!

I love your storage! Ive been dying to get some acrylic wallhung racks like those but the shipping to Denmark is always three times what you actually pay for the rack itself, so it would just be a huge waste of money... :( I also need to have things out and about or I wont use them, I think I'll store my fav brands on the Ikea shelves and then tuck the rest away in my malm dresser. I mean, I can always rotate things if I need to!

Clever with the boxes, theyre so decorative and I'd guess they keep all your accessories dust free aswell so the cleaning is less of a hassle. :) Thanks for sharing!
I like them Honi---the openness can accommodate various shapes and sizes. They appear to be shelves that you hang at whatever height from the other that you wish---is that correct? We all have different ways of storing our NP. I currently have four 90-bottle racks and I'm contemplating where I'll put another four. That's just sick right? I just rearranged my racks---just switched the colors around but they really work for me. If I can't see things and they're not readily accessible I tend not to use them....and that's just wasteful IMO. Here's my storage. The small green box that you see there holds my nail tools, cotton balls/buds and NP remover.

 

CartoonChic

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MAC should do an AC collab. I'm pretty sure they use MAC for their stage makeup.


CC strikes again!
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Have you got Hare Electric Flame from the Illuminated Life collection? It looks OK on me but I can see it working beautifully with darker skintones
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I want Electric Flame, but it was sold out at the time I ordered yesterday. I hope to catch it in the next restock.

All of my Llarowe orders have shipped except the Hare & Jindie order from yesterday and the Picture Polish order with Revolution in it. I hope there isn't a problem.
 

liba

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Liba, I admire your ability to share your assessments so thoroughly. What a labor of love.
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You're amazing!! I expect to immediately employ some of your NP application tips regarding jellies. I was initially concerned about keeping my NP on open racks, which is why I have them in a corner of a room in which the door is always open. The door shields the racks from sunlight. In fact, the corner is so dark that I'm trying to find a light to mount in that corner so I can better see the colors when I'm selecting a polish. The room is also cool, again allaying my concerns about excess heat. I'm pleased with my setup and can say with a relative degree of certainty that my vast NP collection will out-live me.

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Thanks Medgal - I'm mostly just procrastinating on a project I'm supposed to be working on by writing about fun stuff like these gorgeous jellies! You make me really happy to know you enjoyed my ramblings, though
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I do that evil thing of keeping my makeup in the bathroom and everything is fine - I live in a dry climate and have a fan plus a nice big window in my bathroom, though, plus lots of dark cabinets out of the way of the window and the shower, where it's coolest. If I stopped buying makeup today, I'm pretty sure I'd have enough to last me to my dying day too, but where's the fun in that?? Heck, in 30 years, the formulas are going to be so so so much better than they are today - just imagine!!!!
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Edit: Can you just imagine future nail polish?? I want perfection in one coat with 100% natural-derived, biodegradable ingredients (food-grade, even better), maybe with stuff like 3D textures that are animated, that move around on the nail or change on a pre-programmed cycle!!!
 

CartoonChic

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Not the best shot but Zoya Blu topped w/Dior Crystal is VERY pretty IRL.

Beautiful! So delicate and dainty. I also like your reorganized racks. Keks would make a great milestone color for your Butter collection.

Honi, I like the shelf idea. But like Anneri, I'd hate to deal with the dusting. I like to keep my polishes in drawers to avoid having to dust them. My polishes are stored in their boxes to easily read their names, and I have my polishes swatched on nail sticks so that I can select what color to wear. I'll implement Anneri's labels for polishes that don't have boxes, like my Butter Londons.

I would have my polishes on display if dusting wasn't a big issue for me. My place seems to get dusty quickly. It would be a daily chore. I love looking at Med's display racks.
 

BuickMackane

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I want Electric Flame, but it was sold out at the time I ordered yesterday. I hope to catch it in the next restock.

All of my Llarowe orders have shipped except the Hare & Jindie order from yesterday and the Picture Polish order with Revolution in it. I hope there isn't a problem.
Naah, I very much doubt there's a problem. They probably don't ship on the weekend
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BuickMackane

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No shelves for me either:

1. The dust would drive me nuts
2. I like my walls blank

I'm a Helmer girl to the core
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. They're hardly the most decorative storage solution in the world but they do the job.
 

CartoonChic

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Thanks Medgal - I'm mostly just procrastinating on a project I'm supposed to be working on by writing about fun stuff like these gorgeous jellies! You make me really happy to know you enjoyed my ramblings, though
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I do that evil thing of keeping my makeup in the bathroom and everything is fine - I live in a dry climate and have a fan plus a nice big window in my bathroom, though, plus lots of dark cabinets out of the way of the window and the shower, where it's coolest. If I stopped buying makeup today, I'm pretty sure I'd have enough to last me to my dying day too, but where's the fun in that?? Heck, in 30 years, the formulas are going to be so so so much better than they are today - just imagine!!!!
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Edit: Can you just imagine future nail polish?? I want perfection in one coat with 100% natural-derived, biodegradable ingredients (food-grade, even better), maybe with stuff like 3D textures that are animated, that move around on the nail or change on a pre-programmed cycle!!!
Is it weird that I thought of the same things?
 

Medgal07

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It is actually thin shelves that have a "lip" that you usually use for displaying pictures in frames and such on (Frame shelves I think they're called). But I reckoned they would be perfect for nailpolishes aswell!

I love your storage! Ive been dying to get some acrylic wallhung racks like those but the shipping to Denmark is always three times what you actually pay for the rack itself, so it would just be a huge waste of money... :( I also need to have things out and about or I wont use them, I think I'll store my fav brands on the Ikea shelves and then tuck the rest away in my malm dresser. I mean, I can always rotate things if I need to!

Clever with the boxes, theyre so decorative and I'd guess they keep all your accessories dust free aswell so the cleaning is less of a hassle. :) Thanks for sharing!
Honi, that's a great idea to rotate your NPs from shelf to malm!!! That's what I do with my shoes & clothing, seasonally. Most of us also keep inventory documents to keep us from duplicating NPs.
 

BuickMackane

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Thank goodness the fuzzy texture wasn't used for the David Bowie's Bulge polish.
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<-- I've been trying to find a good reason to use this smiley. This seems the most appropriate moment.
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LOL I've always wondered how on earth that smiley made it onto Spectra's smiley list. I mean, seriously, of all the smileys in the world. On a makeup forum!
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BuickMackane

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Honi, that's a great idea to rotate your NPs from shelf to malm!!! That's what I do with my shoes & clothing, seasonally. Most of us also keep inventory documents to keep us from duplicating NPs.
That's me!

I buy random perfumes from the sale so that I can spray them my clothes before I put them away. Helps keep moths away.

I'm currently halfway through a 100 ml Apparition Pink that I bought for 5 quid. Not something I'd wear but way better than mothballs
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Medgal07

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Beautiful! So delicate and dainty. I also like your reorganized racks. Keks would make a great milestone color for your Butter collection.
Honi, I like the shelf idea. But like Anneri, I'd hate to deal with the dusting. I like to keep my polishes in drawers to avoid having to dust them. My polishes are stored in their boxes to easily read their names, and I have my polishes swatched on nail sticks so that I can select what color to wear. I'll implement Anneri's labels for polishes that don't have boxes, like my Butter Londons.

I would have my polishes on display if dusting wasn't a big issue for me. My place seems to get dusty quickly. It would be a daily chore. I love looking at Med's display racks.
Oh CC I've failed---sort of! I know you told me to wait to get Keks but it's sitting in my shopping cart at Ulta this very moment. I was browsing today and happened upon their China Glaze B2G1F and a cosmetic GWP for orders > $35 & 20% off a single item. Of course they take 20% off the cheapest item. I never fall for that stuff, hence the reason it's sitting in my SC. I can resist this. I know I can resist this, I know I can resist this. I can resist this can't I???? I don't need more cosmetics in yet another pretty floral pouch, and I had a really hard time selecting 3 CGs.
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Medgal07

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That's me!

I buy random perfumes from the sale so that I can spray them my clothes before I put them away. Helps keep moths away.

I'm currently halfway through a 100 ml Apparition Pink that I bought for 5 quid. Not something I'd wear but way better than mothballs
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Interesting Buick! I suppose the moths find the perfume distasteful??
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Your clothing smells nice and the moths are coughing & choking
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CartoonChic

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You've been getting a ton of use out of that crystal top coat. You were making me really consider getting one (and I've all but sworn off high-end polish this year) but didn't realize it was some hard to find exclusive. Say it ain't so!
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Have you tried the Sephora by OPI fast drying top coat? I've been really happy with it, after hunting for non-disappointing top coats for a few years. It's thick, cushy, very smoothing and has great dry time and wear. Was curious how it compares with the Dior gel coat.
Dior Crystal is actually exclusive to Saks and is still available on their website.

Speaking of exclusives, I made an impromptu stop at Bloomingdale's today. I passed by the mall on my way home while I was out and thought it would be a great opportunity to check something. I was looking for YSL Rouge Dada. It's a color exclusive to Bloomingdale's. They had it in stock. They also had the YSL Tie & Dye collection. It turns out the collection is a Bloomingdale's exclusive after all.

I was still interested in this collection because the polishes have been compared to YSL Première Neige. Première Neige is a beautiful shimmer top coat. It's similar to Dior Crystal, except Première Neige has blue shimmer instead of white. I got 3 of the 4 Tie & Dye polishes. The blue one was sold out. The SA actually had one more left, but someone else had already called in and purchased it over the phone. I ordered another one from a different store and should receive it next week. I shook up the Tie & Dyes for the picture.



YSL Rouge Dada 6, Cool Coat, Pop Coat, Hip Coat

EDIT: I found this link about the Tie & Dye collection. http://www.refinery29.com/ysl
 

Medgal07

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LOL I've always wondered how on earth that smiley made it onto Spectra's smiley list. I mean, seriously, of all the smileys in the world. On a makeup forum!
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That one, and this one too
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I can't imagine why it's relevant on a makeup forum
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Perhaps they were included in an emoticon package.
 

CartoonChic

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Oh that's so funny about the procrastinating. I remember those days! I hate when chores/projects interfere with the fun stuff in life.
I keep telling myself that I have enough makeup---because I do, but I cave w/every new collection or hot item that I find irresistible. I should just stop fighting it.

Hopefully, our dream NP is in the making. I could do a polish change twice a day and entertain myself by just looking at my nails!!
Oh CC I've failed---sort of! I know you told me to wait to get Keks but it's sitting in my shopping cart at Ulta this very moment. I was browsing today and happened upon their China Glaze B2G1F and a cosmetic GWP for orders > $35 & 20% off a single item. Of course they take 20% off the cheapest item. I never fall for that stuff, hence the reason it's sitting in my SC. I can resist this. I know I can resist this, I know I can resist this. I can resist this can't I???? I don't need more cosmetics in yet another pretty floral pouch, and I had a really hard time selecting 3 CGs.
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I want to say you can resist it, but that's a good deal. It's hard to resist a good deal. I say go for it if you don't mind paying full price for Keks. I'm going to wait a bit more because I think there will be another sale popping up soon. I'm thinking at the very least, it will be added to butterlondon.com and they will have a sale. Then I can grab Pitter Patter at the same time.
 

CartoonChic

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I did a mani with Keeping It Teal last night too, as a matter of fact. No glitter. Gonna put my thoughts below.
OK, so I bought all the CG neon jellies except the blue and have experimented with 'em and have done manicures in Heat Index and Keeping It Teal. Here's my lowdown:

These are JELLIES. SHEER JELLIES. Not all of them are equally sheer, but most of them are. SHEER JELLIES have their own really unique properties, that you kind of have to respect. It's a love it or leave it scenario. Yes you will see the nail line - not in all lights, but quite often. Just remember - YOU are noticing the nail line more than anyone else is going to. The light source really matters too - in some lights, just because of the way the light's hitting your hands, they'll seem more or less opaque. This is the beauty of jellies. I think we were seeing jellies that had more of that matte, rubbery finish that the clear, very shiny finish these have and sort of forgot what to expect out of them.

Now, on to the formula. I think it's excellent and not streaky at all, if you apply it with a few precautions. DO apply the first coat very thinly. Try not to even it out by going back over your strokes - that makes it streak - just use the brush as lightly as possible. It'll be sheer as hell! THEN, let the coat dry really well before you do your next coat. Now you have options - you can do a thick second coat, or do 2 thin coats - it will come out looking pretty much the same. Just allow the polish to SELF-LEVEL - these actually do that quite well - it doesn't seem like it will, and then it does, a minute later when it's drying. If you're doing 2 thin coats, you absolutely have to let them dry really well. You also have to let it dry super duper well before you apply a top coat or again, it will tug and streak. I think it's because this is a very glossy formula - the higher the gloss, the longer it takes to dry usually.

Base and top coat issues: The first mani I did was using Heat Index. I used Deborah Lippman's ridge filler base underneath, because it's a pale beige. I figured it'd minimize my nail line, which is pretty noticeable - my tips are much whiter than my nail beds, which are quite pink, and they start kind of low down on the nail. Also I figured being a bit beige, it'd brighten up the color of the polish. The result? It did make the polish appear a bit brighter under all lighting conditions, but at the expense of the translucent jelly finish - it made it more opaque looking and took away a lot of the uniqueness. My second mani, I used a clear base coat (the OPI Sephora standard one) and that was much better for my taste. I've used a top coat on both my manis, but I did feel like it did detract slightly from the natural finish of these. You HAVE to let everything dry to perfection before applying the top coat. I could see some top coats reacting weirdly to these too. You don't really need one to make it look good - the next mani I do with these, I'm probably going to skip the top coat entirely.

The thing about these jellies is that they go from looking much softer indoors and then outdoors in the sun, they get CRAZY bright and more dense looking. This is what's so nice about them - they're like neons that go from gentle and soft to super bold. They're just thrilling outdoors on a sunny day and indoors, they are much more demure. If you want bright 24/7, that's not what they're for. Even indoors, if a ray of light catches your nails, BOOM suddenly bright, but usually they're more dainty. I love this effect, but it took me a few days to get used to. You can definitely do an extra coat to make them more opaque or do them over the white or beige base like I was saying, but then you'd just be better off finding neon creams to use in the first place, seriously.

Finally, some individual notes on the colors. The purple Are You Jelly? is the most satin, rubbery, opaque style jelly of the bunch. It's not sheer (it's 95% opaque in 3 coats) or glossy and I think it'll be best to leave it without a glossy top coat to enhance the effect. Keeping It Teal is the most transparent of the ones I have (I didn't buy the blue), but it's so so gorgeous - it's a brilliant jade/emerald green that really goes from soft to intensely bright with the light - it's like looking into the heart of a cabochon emerald. So gorgeous. When I did this mani, I'd done a rather thick second coat on my left hand, but a thinner one on my right, so I did a third, thinner coat only on the right, and both hands look the same. Heat Index didn't operate so much like this - 3 thin coats looked more opaque then 2 thicker coats. Maybe this was because of the beige base coat, but it didn't look quite right - the more opaque you make these, the brighter they get under all light conditions, meaning that indoors, it often looked like you were wearing two different colors of polish. You need to be consistent when you do your nails with these. Heat Index is a standard, warmer pink - a bubblegum or barbie pink, while You Drive Me Coconuts is much more of a light magenta or fuchsia pink. Normally, if I had a choice, I'd take the more magenta color, but Heat Index is really nice as far as the transition between demure indoors to BRIGHT outdoors, so I really love it. You Drive Me Coconuts is the second most opaque and rubbery, after the purple. You could do a top coat on this one or not - it can go either way. It's more of a match to Candy Yum Yum or Pink Pigeon than Heat Index is. Shell-O is a pink coral and also super duper cute - looking soft and ladylike indoors and then VAVOOM bright outdoors. It's very similar to CG's very popular Flirty Tankini from last year - only brighter out in the sun.

What will be very nice is a pedi in the corresponding cream shade and a mani in the jelly, so they almost match, but don't. Also, I think you could get some really sweet effects from doing a french mani or other simple nail art design using the jelly as the base color and the corresponding cream as the accent. I want to talk about the creams too, but I'll do that later. I think this is a great collection if you want some colors that act pretty work safe indoors but immediately go bold in the sun or out at a club under colored lights. Love it - but it took me a week to wrap my mind around it!
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Also, exposing your polish to light on an open shelf isn't going to prolong its life. I keep mine tucked away in a cabinet, but I do regularly pull a few out to admire the colors. They all still look best on fingers and toes - I just make sure to change my color 2-3 a week to satisfy the urges!
I'm stillgetting all of the colors. I have the Butter London ridge filler base coat. It's my only base coat at the moment. I have the Lippmann one on the way as part of a set. I read somewhere that ridge fillers can be used to help hide visible nail lines, but I don't think visible nail lines bother me. I just see it as the nature of using a sheer polish. I want to keep the jelly effect, so I guess I need to find a clear base coat. Thanks for your review.
 
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