Prettypackages
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that was fast! I can't wait to hear more.
Wayne Goss Brush Collection
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Prettypackages
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MIss TT how does the crease brush compare to the small one by nars?
sarabeautime
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I posted some comparisons to Hakuhodos and a review for those who are interested:
Part I:
http://www.colormeloud.com/2013/10/wayne-goss-brush-collection-part-i-01.html
Part II:
http://www.colormeloud.com/2013/10/wayne-goss-brush-collection-part-ii-06.html
Part I:
http://www.colormeloud.com/2013/10/wayne-goss-brush-collection-part-i-01.html
Part II:
http://www.colormeloud.com/2013/10/wayne-goss-brush-collection-part-ii-06.html
sss215
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Nice write up, thanks!!!!
sarabeautime
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Glad it was helpful 
luclaw88
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Thank you for this, very helpful!
Prettypackages
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So I'm wondering if I should just get the Hakuhodo brushes?
LC Balthazar
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I love mine!
BeautynBullets
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I wonder if the brushes are worth it
MissTT
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I have to say, unfortunately, the foundation brush is one of the worst foundation brushes I've ever used. The first day 4-5 hairs fell out on my face. That enrages me with liquid products especially b/c I'm in a hurry and I have to stop to pick them off. In the meantime my foundation is drying while not being fully blended. I truly don't have time for that. Then there are the streaks. Because this is a stippling type brush it has a sparse grouping of longer hairs. These hairs leave tiny little streaks in my foundation. When I change brush direction under my eyes (moving out instead of down) the track marks are incredibly noticeable. I keep having to go over and over my face to get rid of the streaks. Even the traditional foundation brush doesn't streak like this. I'm not a fan of stippling brushes for this very reason: wastes product and takes longer. I've watched the brush video twice. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I'm using downward strokes. I don't know...The shorter bristles are very densely packed which I expected, but it makes it really difficult for me to get all of the foundation out of the brush with brush shampoo. I'm either going to need to resort to chemical cleaner or add oil to the shampoo. Due to this brush alone I'm considering returning the whole lot and just repurchasing the shadow brushes. I need to check the return policy again.
PP I had compared the brush #5 to my NARS Small Dome when you asked, but then forgot to type it up and thus forgot my comparisons. The NARS brushhead is slightly wider, but has a tapered head so it ends up being more precise. The tip of the NARS brush doesn't splay much due to it's point. It really holds it's shape well. I haven't actually used #5 b/c honestly my NARS brush works really well for detail work so I haven't been compelled to open up #5.
I will still say the brushes are excellent quality and feel good in the hand. The hairs feel wonderful on the face. (Except I think the crease brushes are scratchy trying to use them to apply under eye concealer. Almost all brushes are to me, though, and I'm in love with my Sephora Airbrush Concealer #57 for this area.) Brush #2's tapered end makes me take lots of extra strokes trying to buff out loose powder. I favor fluffy brushes to cut down on time and strokes. Again, maybe my technique is flawed.
Thanks so much for the reviews on colormeloud, Sara. They were great. Anyone else here have any thoughts?
PP I had compared the brush #5 to my NARS Small Dome when you asked, but then forgot to type it up and thus forgot my comparisons. The NARS brushhead is slightly wider, but has a tapered head so it ends up being more precise. The tip of the NARS brush doesn't splay much due to it's point. It really holds it's shape well. I haven't actually used #5 b/c honestly my NARS brush works really well for detail work so I haven't been compelled to open up #5.
I will still say the brushes are excellent quality and feel good in the hand. The hairs feel wonderful on the face. (Except I think the crease brushes are scratchy trying to use them to apply under eye concealer. Almost all brushes are to me, though, and I'm in love with my Sephora Airbrush Concealer #57 for this area.) Brush #2's tapered end makes me take lots of extra strokes trying to buff out loose powder. I favor fluffy brushes to cut down on time and strokes. Again, maybe my technique is flawed.
Thanks so much for the reviews on colormeloud, Sara. They were great. Anyone else here have any thoughts?
Prettypackages
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thats disappointing
sarabeautime
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This is interesting. I am using the foundation brush #1 almost daily since I got it. I like stippling brushes though. Anyway it didnt shed a single hair on me. It has been washed like 10 times since then. I was rather surprised by the quality because sometimes Hakuhodo brushes do shed hairs. Coming back to the streaks and usage. I am usually very short on time in the mornings and find this brush particularly fast to work with. I do moisturize the skin in a good way or alternatively you can spray a little water on the brush. Then I take some foundation at the back of my hand and by picking very less product each time, I start applying this from the center of the face in circular motions towards out. Does this make sense? I see streaks if I apply it linearly. The head of the brush should touch the whole face so since it has an angle, you need to hold it a bit inclined. Do you try it out this way? I apply my foundation, my under eye concelear and even partly spot concealing with this brush. I hardly use anything else from the line since I find my Hakuhodo/Suqqu ones much better but this particular brush is heaven sent to me, so I wanted to ask if you use it the way I do.
katred
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I was so convinced that these brushes wouldn't be available in Canada that I missed the fact that anyone can order them from love-makeup. (Well, we will be able to when they're in stock.) I like the look of the blending brush and the foundation brush (although now Miss TT's review has me worried). I can't for the life of me figure out why they wouldn't have included an applicator brush for shadows, though. I swear, it's like no one wants to compete with the Mac 239.
MissTT
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I tried the foundation brush again today going in circles. Significantly less streaks and lost one hair. The small brush head means it takes longer for me to blend when compared to my HG Urban Decay Optical Blurring brush. My UD blends quickly, leaves no streaky lines, and doesn't lose hairs. I think I may have enjoyed the Wayne Goss brush more if it was more like the Shiseido and didn't have the long/stippling hairs. The density of my UD makes it blend quickly and effortlessly. Sara - I forgot to try spritzing the brush to see if that helped. I'll do it tomorrow. How often are you washing yours? Natural hairs and liquid makeup icks me out. Especially when the hairs are white.
katred - if you like stippling brushes this may work for you. I went in with an open mind b/c I really respect the creator, but I was quickly reminded why stippling brushes with liquid foundation enrages me.
Wayne doesn't like lay-down brushes because they're not multi-functional enough for him. If there's enough demand for one, he may do one.
janette9687
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Thanks so much for reviewing this! I was def curious how these played out and offering to CP, i think considering the similar features and my ever growing hakuhodo collection i may just skip.
Ill tell you one thing i did wanted too see how much a difference the foundation brush made because of the longer bristles but the Hakuhodo one didn't give me streak issues but the hairs are shorter. What it did give me was resistance i couldn't exactly go in circular buffing motions i had to go more like painting motions. and its very dense it is hard to get foundation out. It is better than the hakuhodo J210 for foundation for buffing because the j210 soaked up the foundation. The finish was beautiful though I need to use f more to give more info on it since they are in similar price range. I just keep my beauty bender more handy for foundation since i use it for concealer as well.
sarabeautime
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LOL.
I think he said he doesn't like harsh application (as opposed to soft wash of color) this is why he doesn't have it in his collection.
As much as I am enjoying his set of brushes, I would never "demand" for another brush from him because Hakuhodo brushes have the same good quality and almost exactly the same price. So I can't imagine why would someone on earth demand for a brush from him when a huge collection of those is available worldwide. I appreciate his effort on "popularizing the Japanese quality brushes" though. I have seen some reviews comparing these with Sigma brushes and complaining about the small size of Wayne's, so this sheds a light on the user profile.
janette9687
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I totally understand your post and i to somewhat agree, when i first saw his collectiones i was moved becuz of the whole part about them being Japanese made and i know the quality would be great but as i saw the pictures of it i saw and posted that they arent exactly new innovatiosn at all, i actually posted similar hakuhodo brushes, and i thought the price points might have been better but I would rather shell out the cash for hakuhodos whose quality i know is always superb, im glad he took that route to make his line of brushes but like you said they arent anything new.LOL.
I think he said he doesn't like harsh application (as opposed to soft wash of color) this is why he doesn't have it in his collection.
As much as I am enjoying his set of brushes, I would never "demand" for another brush from him because Hakuhodo brushes have the same good quality and almost exactly the same price. So I can't imagine why would someone on earth demand for a brush from him when a huge collection of those is available worldwide. I appreciate his effort on "popularizing the Japanese quality brushes" though. I have seen some reviews comparing these with Sigma brushes and complaining about the small size of Wayne's, so this sheds a light on the user profile.On the other hand him acting like a creator of something is just a little... sad...I am taking it as a marketing strategy thoughand I perceive his collection as "Wayne's selection of Hakuhodos which will give you a flawless face". Sorry if I am being a little mean here but I think everyone should speak their mind.
MissTT
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Quote: Originally Posted by sarabeautime
LOL.
I think he said he doesn't like harsh application (as opposed to soft wash of color) this is why he doesn't have it in his collection.
As much as I am enjoying his set of brushes, I would never "demand" for another brush from him because Hakuhodo brushes have the same good quality and almost exactly the same price. So I can't imagine why would someone on earth demand for a brush from him when a huge collection of those is available worldwide. I appreciate his effort on "popularizing the Japanese quality brushes" though. I have seen some reviews comparing these with Sigma brushes and complaining about the small size of Wayne's, so this sheds a light on the user profile.
On the other hand him acting like a creator of something is just a little... sad...
I am taking it as a marketing strategy though
and I perceive his collection as "Wayne's selection of Hakuhodos which will give you a flawless face". Sorry if I am being a little mean here but I think everyone should speak their mind.
Oh yes definitely this. I used the term creator earlier and I meant of the line, not the brush types b/c yes these are just brushes already in existence that have slight technical modifications. By the demand we simply mean giving customers what they're requesting. It's a way to make money. People want the 239 and they really like Wayne Goss. If he wants to make more money he certainly can by adding this type of brush to his line up. If he is insistent that he fundamentally opposed to it perhaps he'll stick to those feelings. See his comments about Bare Minerals and their creator's comments about never having a pressed powder in their line. Things change over time and with customer desires.
I went back to my UD foundation brush this morning and my goodness come to mama! Flawless finish in seconds. I didn't need to keep buffing over and over again because there were zero lines and streaks. It buffs things out immediately. Janette I worry about resistance too with some of those similar brushes with flat heads. I'm also thinking my Wayne Goss brush soaks up the foundation more than I'd like. Again, I'm just not a fan of natural bristles with liquids so I'm biased.
I used the WG #4 and #6 today for blending and they look and feel so nice. I also used the #2 to apply powder to my t-zone. I do like that the #2 is nice and soft so it doesn't disturb the rest of your makeup. The fluffier Chanel powder brush that I use does seem to make a lot of contact with my skin and drag a bit.
LOL.I think he said he doesn't like harsh application (as opposed to soft wash of color) this is why he doesn't have it in his collection.
As much as I am enjoying his set of brushes, I would never "demand" for another brush from him because Hakuhodo brushes have the same good quality and almost exactly the same price. So I can't imagine why would someone on earth demand for a brush from him when a huge collection of those is available worldwide. I appreciate his effort on "popularizing the Japanese quality brushes" though. I have seen some reviews comparing these with Sigma brushes and complaining about the small size of Wayne's, so this sheds a light on the user profile.
Oh yes definitely this. I used the term creator earlier and I meant of the line, not the brush types b/c yes these are just brushes already in existence that have slight technical modifications. By the demand we simply mean giving customers what they're requesting. It's a way to make money. People want the 239 and they really like Wayne Goss. If he wants to make more money he certainly can by adding this type of brush to his line up. If he is insistent that he fundamentally opposed to it perhaps he'll stick to those feelings. See his comments about Bare Minerals and their creator's comments about never having a pressed powder in their line. Things change over time and with customer desires.
I went back to my UD foundation brush this morning and my goodness come to mama! Flawless finish in seconds. I didn't need to keep buffing over and over again because there were zero lines and streaks. It buffs things out immediately. Janette I worry about resistance too with some of those similar brushes with flat heads. I'm also thinking my Wayne Goss brush soaks up the foundation more than I'd like. Again, I'm just not a fan of natural bristles with liquids so I'm biased.
I used the WG #4 and #6 today for blending and they look and feel so nice. I also used the #2 to apply powder to my t-zone. I do like that the #2 is nice and soft so it doesn't disturb the rest of your makeup. The fluffier Chanel powder brush that I use does seem to make a lot of contact with my skin and drag a bit.
