Since this has been Red Pedro week, and I keep harping on Mangrove instead, here it is, with no lip liner or balm underneath - my natural lip color is reddish (lol, I slapped this lipstick on and then remembered I should do a natural lip photo). I am wearing the liquid Mineralize NW15 foundation today with Sea Me Hear Me EDB (I can't wear NC in this foundation formula for some reason, I also use NW18 in it sometimes, but NW15 matches the rest of me best). I used flash, but then color balanced it a bit afterwards. The lipstick color is quite accurate for a change!
What I love about Mangrove is the finish makes it look like you've put an orange red lipstick on top of a more bluish scarlet red and you can see that effect pretty nicely here.