Lime Crime Lipstick

erine1881

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Same here. The average person probably ingests far more awful stuff than some pesky pigments during the course of the day lol. I suppose the super strict FDA policies are the reason why Illamasqua don't ship their Disciple lippie to the US. I don't know if it's legally possible, but I'm wondering if LC can also do something similar and just say that RV is not available to US customers.
These ingredients are actually listed on all the Velvetines. They're listed in all my BUs that i have, plus my Pink Velvet that just arrived today that i ordered last week during their free shipping promo-
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Vandekamp

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Indeed. It really really irritates me. No matter what happens, they simply deny it and then it goes away. I know the obvious thing is not to buy from them, I just find the lying to be incredibly unethical.
I agree with you. I won't buy from her again.
 

Ajigglin

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http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2015/ucm456525.htm :eek:hboy:
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Yeah the US is super anal about shit like that. I'm not worried. I'll still wear it and my BU.
Actually, the EU has historically been more stringent when it comes to chemicals. The lobbying body is strong in the States. That being said, the fact it hasn't been banned in the EU is surprising. I don't know what to think. I wonder if this applies to a particular batch, or if it applies to all RVs ever made? This also gives me pause about my Coloured Raine liquid lipsticks. A couple of those shits smell industrial.
 

erine1881

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Oh, for fuck's sake. Actually, the EU has historically been more stringent when it comes to chemicals. The lobbying body is strong in the States. That being said, the fact it hasn't been banned in the EU is surprising. I don't know what to think. I wonder if this applies to a particular batch, or if it applies to all RVs ever made? This also gives me pause about my Coloured Raine liquid lipsticks. A couple of those shits smell industrial.
It applies to all of them. My Pink Velvet that came today, along with my BUs of 4 others all have the 2 ingredients they're talking about. Plus the letter mentions that it's not exclusive to Red Velvet alone. And tho the EU may be more strict when it comes to chemicals, many cosmetics are either banned for sale in the US, have restricted use in the US, or aren't allowed to be shipped to the US, due to the colouring ingredients in the them, but they're completely legal/fine for use/wear in the EU with no restrictions whatsoever. It's only colouring additives that's are regulated in cosmetics in the US. Sad.
 

Ajigglin

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It applies to all of them. My Pink Velvet that came today, along with my BUs of 4 others all have the 2 ingredients they're talking about. Plus the letter mentions that it's not exclusive to Red Velvet alone. And tho the EU may be more strict when it comes to chemicals, many cosmetics are either banned for sale in the US, have restricted use in the US, or aren't allowed to be shipped to the US, due to the colouring ingredients in the them, but they're completely legal/fine for use/wear in the EU with no restrictions whatsoever. It's only colouring additives that's are regulated in cosmetics in the US. Sad.
Thanks. Sigh. This damn lady. I was done with her before, but now I'm beyond done. I gotta figure out if I should just keep wearing it and find my inner European, or take this tremendous L.
 

BuickMackane

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OK, stupid question from someone who knows sweet FA about this sort of stuff.

Is it normal for different colours of the same product to have the exact same pigments listed in their ingredients? I just clicked on every Velvetine colour swatch on the LC site and the list of ingredients was the same every time. I find it a bit strange that two very different colours, say, Shroom and Utopia, have the exact same pigments
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erine1881

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Thanks. Sigh. This damn lady. I was done with her before, but now I'm beyond done. I gotta figure out if I should just keep wearing it and find my inner European, or take this tremendous L.
I'm finding my inner European because i have all but one colour, plus BUs :dunno:
OK, stupid question from someone who knows sweet FA about this sort of stuff. Is it normal for different colours of the same product to have the exact same pigments listed in their ingredients? I just clicked on every Velvetine colour swatch on the LC site and the list of ingredients was the same every time. I find it a bit strange that two very different colours, say, Shroom and Utopia, have the exact same pigments :hmm:
No. Every one would have different ingredients. They may all have the same base ingredients, but they'd all have different Lakes, which is what gives them each their colour. And you're right, i just compared all of mine that are still boxed, and they're identical. Pansy isn't gonna have the exact same ingredients, in the exact same order (which means the exact same %) as Salem. So clearly she's just using the same label for everything of the same formula, which means she doesn't know what's in her products. This woman is fucking psycho!
 

BuickMackane

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This woman is fucking psycho!
Hang onto your inner European!

Thank you for the info re: ingredients. I recall reading somewhere that the ingredient order meant % but I wasn't sure.

Ms.CEO is a textbook example of how a company shouldn't be run. I sometimes feel bad for her because of all the negativity towards her but she really isn't helping matters. I wish she had the sense to step down and have someone competent take over.
 

dcarrington

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I am beyond done with this company myself. She always seem to find a way to undermind her customers. First she talks to them like trash and deletes comments that she doesn't feel are favorable to her brand. She rarely responded to her customers regarding any issue. Shipping was one of the sh*ttiest I've dealt with for online shopping. Products were out of stock for way too long and people were given bogus restock dates. And when items were restocked for highly sought after items the site would crash. You would think this would prompt her to update her site. But noooo. People complained about their cards being hacked and she basically ignored them.She only started to care when her sales went down drastically and she was being boycotted (which she sooo deserved) Now that her sales have been hit hard, we get an updated site, quicker shipping, less attitude, ACTUAL SALES
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AND a FREE SHIPPING sale!!! AANNNDD new colors added regularly without all the tease. She has changed a lot of things but she hasn't changed one thing that has ultimately made me put this brand away for good and that's her knowingly selling overpriced products...NEARLY HALF EMPTY!!! THAT right there is freakin' ridiculous! I took part in the summer sale and got the famous eyeshadow primer I heard so much about. When I got it I felt like I was trying to get that last bit toothpaste out of the tube so I wouldn't leave any paste behind. I kept squeezing and squeezing just to find that HALF the tube was freakin' EMPTY!!. If I had paid full price for that I would have be LIVID!! $10 for that is still too much in my opinion but 20 bucks is just insane!. The same with the velvetines. Those are nowhere near full.
 

Vandekamp

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I am beyond done with this company myself. She always seem to find a way to undermind her customers. First she talks to them like trash and deletes comments that she doesn't feel are favorable to her brand. She rarely responded to her customers regarding any issue. Shipping was one of the sh*ttiest I've dealt with for online shopping. Products were out of stock for way too long and people were given bogus restock dates. And when items were restocked for highly sought after items the site would crash. You would think this would prompt her to update her site. But noooo. People complained about their cards being hacked and she basically ignored them.She only started to care when her sales went down drastically and she was being boycotted (which she sooo deserved) Now that her sales have been hit hard, we get an updated site, quicker shipping, less attitude, ACTUAL SALES:whoa:  AND a FREE SHIPPING sale!!! AANNNDD new colors added regularly without all the tease. She has changed a lot of things but she hasn't changed one thing that has ultimately made me put this brand away for good and that's her knowingly selling overpriced products...NEARLY HALF EMPTY!!! THAT right there is freakin' ridiculous! I took part in the summer sale and got the famous eyeshadow primer I heard so much about. When I got it I felt like I was trying to get that last bit toothpaste out of the tube so I wouldn't leave any paste behind. I kept squeezing and squeezing just to find that HALF the tube was freakin' EMPTY!!. If I had paid full price for that I would have be LIVID!! $10 for that is still too much in my opinion but 20 bucks is just insane!. The same with the velvetines. Those are nowhere near full. 
I know a few people in this thread love Lime Crime but, :agree:
 

butterflyeyes

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I know a few people in this thread love her but, :agree:
I honestly can't recall a single person on this forum that has expressed that they love Doe lol. Love the Velvetines, yes...but I don't think many people actually "love" her at all...or really like her for that matter.
 

Vandekamp

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I honestly can't recall a single person on this forum that has expressed that they love Doe lol. Love the Velvetines, yes...but I don't think many people actually "love" her at all...or really like her for that matter.
I meant to say, like Lime Crime. How's that. It's only makeup. I think most people understand what I was really trying to say especially @dcarrington.
 

butterflyeyes

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I meant to say, like Lime Crime. How's that. It's only makeup. I think most people understand what I was really trying to say especially @dcarrington.
Sorry if my response bothered you or made you feel some kind of way. I can only go by what you actually typed so sorry...I took it exactly how you wrote it...that some people love Doe :shrugs:
 

Ana A

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I don't like her, I don't like her prices, and I especially don't like her service, but in all fairness I haven't been able to find a liquid lipstick that performs the way LC does (I've TRIED). The day I find a similar formula is the day I'll wave her dumb face goodbye.
 

stephshopaholic

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I have a handful of her lipsticks, 2 velvetines and the Venus palette...I like what I have the Venus palette is the nicest the lipsticks are not my favorite and I prefer pretty zombie and kvd liquid lipsticks so I think I'm good not buying line crime anymore she lies too much. Just tell your customers the truth the identical ingredient lists proves she has no clue what's in her products!
 

dash4

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She’s just not a very good person (putting it lightly) and incompetent at her role as CEO (and a human being - in general). I will admit - I tried to keep an open mind about her. So many people are accused of horrible things without a lot of proof.. So I actively tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. But she just continues to act horribly.

I find it sad, because I do think she is very creative and artistic. Not only do I enjoy her products, but I also love her instagram photos and promotional photos.. she’s very talented, but has a sucky personality.

It is quite amazing that she has been misprinting the same ingredient list for years.. how on earth did that happen? And what (if any) other ingredients are in her products that haven’t been disclosed? People have allergies and what-not.. Ingredient listing *IS* important.
 

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