Random WOC Makeup Thoughts

[Prettypackages]

From other posts that I've seem WOC with olive undertones tend to have the hardest time finding foundations. Also just having a range that caters to the darker shades. Most of us don't consider Beyonce or Rihanna as dark.

say it again. I think I'm olive in the winter. I'm still not really sure. One day I looked in the mirror and saw green in my skin tone. LOL But once I realized this and then realized I turn red in the summer, it became clear why I can't find a match. Its like they think only sandy colored women can be olive, and if you have red undertones you have to be beyond nc50. Mac is too orange. Others are too beige. And who in their right mind thinks Beyonce is dark. I stay away from brands if they don't have a shade range beyond me, NC 44.
That UD naked was horrible. Now their new concealer is down right pathetic.
I had luck with Lancome Tiente IDole 24hr. I'm surprised others aren't. I'm going to have to go back and really look at myself. Maybe it doesn't look as good as I thought. LOL I know when they came out with the regular Tiente Idole, it oxidized something terrible on me. THis one hasn't.

 

[Twinkle_Twinkle]

say it again. I think I'm olive in the winter. I'm still not really sure. One day I looked in the mirror and saw green in my skin tone. LOL But once I realized this and then realized I turn red in the summer, it became clear why I can't find a match. Its like they think only sandy colored women can be olive, and if you have red undertones you have to be beyond nc50. Mac is too orange. Others are too beige. And who in their right mind thinks Beyonce is dark. I stay away from brands if they don't have a shade range beyond me, NC 44.
That UD naked was horrible. Now their new concealer is down right pathetic.
I had luck with Lancome Tiente IDole 24hr. I'm surprised others aren't. I'm going to have to go back and really look at myself. Maybe it doesn't look as good as I thought. LOL I know when they came out with the regular Tiente Idole, it oxidized something terrible on me. THis one hasn't.

I'm having success with the Lancome (knock on wood), I just have to get the trick of it down, because as it is I am working hard not to over apply and it slows down my routine, but I think it looks good, and I'm trying to figure out what my summer shade would be so that I can have another summer foundation and not just the MUFE Face & Body +Cover FX drops combination.

I like you redden in the summer and that's different from simply getting darker, so just getting a shade darker of foundation wasn't enough. Maybe I need to buy a foundation in a different undertone family... this summer I found that using MAC Sun Power helped to redden up my foundation. I'm wondering if getting a cool (rather than warm) summer foundation is the answer.

 

[Prettypackages]

I'm having success with the Lancome (knock on wood), I just have to get the trick of it down, because as it is I am working hard not to over apply and it slows down my routine, but I think it looks good, and I'm trying to figure out what my summer shade would be so that I can have another summer foundation and not just the MUFE Face & Body +Cover FX drops combination.

I like you redden in the summer and that's different from simply getting darker, so just getting a shade darker of foundation wasn't enough. Maybe I need to buy a foundation in a different undertone family... this summer I found that using MAC Sun Power helped to redden up my foundation. I'm wondering if getting a cool (rather than warm) summer foundation is the answer.

Yes, you told me about Sun Power and it helped tremendously! Thank you! I was actually thinking about trying a cool foundation too. I'll figure it out next Summer. LOL NOw I need to go back through my foundation and remember what I wore last year.

 

[sagehen]

Quick question: how does MAC Dark out lip pencil compare to other dark lip pencils out there say MAC Chestnut or NYX Urban Jungle? Trying to talk myself out of it. eta: I see it is NOT like Chestnut since it is described as a dark burgundy. I may need this.

 

[sagehen]

Another quickie - have any of the ladies in that frequent this forum purchased the Viseart Editorial Matte palette (#08)? Have you gotten s chance to use it yet? Any thoughts? I am pondering it, and I am looking for someone to tell me no. I am in a serious, year-long, neutral eye rut, so...anyone? Because I am thinking this will be the thing to get me out of this rut.

 

[nikkideevah]

Another quickie - have any of the ladies in that frequent this forum purchased the Viseart Editorial Matte palette (#08)? Have you gotten s chance to use it yet? Any thoughts? I am pondering it, and I am looking for someone to tell me no. I am in a serious, year-long, neutral eye rut, so...anyone? Because I am thinking this will be the thing to get me out of this rut.

I just looked at it and said wow thats bright colors.. but yeah Im stuck in that same neutral eye boat... I wish I could go back to the days when I wore color and didnt care.

 

[Shars]

Another quickie - have any of the ladies in that frequent this forum purchased the Viseart Editorial Matte palette (#08)? Have you gotten s chance to use it yet? Any thoughts? I am pondering it, and I am looking for someone to tell me no. I am in a serious, year-long, neutral eye rut, so...anyone? Because I am thinking this will be the thing to get me out of this rut.

Hey Sage. These are swatches on my arm that I posted in some thread or another. I haven't worn it on the eyes yet though but the colours will definitely get you out of your neutral rut. You can use them as a pop of colour for the time being, too. Plus side, they are not chalky at all.

 

[sagehen]

@Shars - thank you so much for these swatches...I am can see using some of these as a pop of cheek color too! You said the words I really needed to hear (see?): "not chalky at all". I may need this.

 

[Shars]

@Shars - thank you so much for these swatches...I am can see using some of these as a pop of cheek color too! You said the words I really needed to hear (see?): "not chalky at all". I may need this.

You're welcome! Hopefully you can get it at a great price! I got mine from Frends Beauty last time they had a sale!

 

[sagehen]

You're welcome! Hopefully you can get it at a great price! I got mine from Frends Beauty last time they had a sale!

I will probably go there, since I didn't pull the trigger during the VIBR sale. It's about 20 min from my job - a good excuse to run out during lunch! I will save this for when I need a little pick me up.

 

[Prettypackages]

Hey Sage. These are swatches on my arm that I posted in some thread or another. I haven't worn it on the eyes yet though but the colours will definitely get you out of your neutral rut. You can use them as a pop of colour for the time being, too. Plus side, they are not chalky at all.

hey Shars, how do you find the e/s performs? I'm noticing with the Sultry Muse palette, that the colors are not very vibrant on. They're kinda dull. THey may swatch beautifully, but I don't get the same color on the eye. Does that make sense? I was wondering if ti was the base I used, so I'm going to switch to my Nars radiant base and see if that helps. Have you noticed this with any of the palettes you have?

 

[Shars]

Ohhhh I might need to look into that.

hey Shars, how do you find the e/s performs? I'm noticing with the Sultry Muse palette, that the colors are not very vibrant on. They're kinda dull. THey may swatch beautifully, but I don't get the same color on the eye. Does that make sense? I was wondering if ti was the base I used, so I'm going to switch to my Nars radiant base and see if that helps. Have you noticed this with any of the palettes you have?

Hey Pretty. I've only used shades from the Dark Mattes in my crease to date and so far they were okay. I hope to try each of the palettes this week. From swatching though, compared to other palettes with similar finishes, I think for sure Bridal will be great with just regular primer, dark mattes will be okay, but with the Editorial mattes, if you want true to pan on WOC eyelids, you may need to use a cream/skin coloured/white base. I'll update when I wear them this weekend.

 

[pinkcrush]

Lately I've been trying to get use out of my deeper red shades including Salon Rouge, Diva, Sin and Studded Kiss which I think look amazing on deeper skintones... They r perfect for fall without being too vampy. I'm curious what r you ladies faves? MAC Studded Kiss on NW43/NC50...

 

[Prettypackages]

Oh Nice!! Lucky you! I know they give a 10% discount to you if you have an account with them online. I'm not sure if it's the same in store as well.
Hey Pretty. I've only used shades from the Dark Mattes in my crease to date and so far they were okay. I hope to try each of the palettes this week. From swatching though, compared to other palettes with similar finishes, I think for sure Bridal will be great with just regular primer, dark mattes will be okay, but with the Editorial mattes, if you want true to pan on WOC eyelids, you may need to use a cream/skin coloured/white base. I'll update when I wear them this weekend.

gotcha, looking forward to your review.

 

[sagehen]

Lately I've been trying to get use out of my deeper red shades including Salon Rouge, Diva, Sin and Studded Kiss which I think look amazing on deeper skintones... They r perfect for fall without being too vampy. I'm curious what r you ladies

Ooh thank younfornreminding me about Salon Rouge. I really like that red. And Studded Kiss too. My favorites are Sin and Diva. And K8nky. Does that count as deep?

 

[pinkcrush]

Ooh thank younfornreminding me about Salon Rouge. I really like that red. And Studded Kiss too. My favorites are Sin and Diva. And K8nky. Does that count as deep?

Salon Rouge is beautiful!!! I don't have Kinky but she is pretty too! I really like the red in the holiday lip bag but don't want the gloss and already have the pencil

 

[Sugar & Spice]

I know makeup shades are scarce for dark to deep skin tones but the issue is not the brand per say but us the consumer. I close with a few high end brand reps and we do not buy in the percentage that makes it cost effective to produce shades for dark to deep skin tones. Most Black women are not going to pay 40+ dollars on a cosmetic when they have the option if drug store and MAC being cheaper. It cost a lot to maufactor products so why would continue to produce a deep foundation shade that you never sale or sale 2 for the whole year? That's a lot of money waisted so there's no value in producing shades that do not generate revenue. WOC talk about brands not being available for us but how many of you are buying from this high end brands? And I'm not talking about 1 or 2 items a year but multiple items from every collection that's released? You're not doing it and at the end of the year the majority of products that get discontinued are shades that were targeted for dark to deep skin tones because the profits aren't there. Look on any blog, YouTube, etc and there's only a handful that buy high end cosmetics CONSISTANTLY. I was going to start a YouTube channel for WOC but after researching I decided against it because it would be a waist of time. It would be too much work just for people to watch and comment oh that's too expensive! It's stupid to pay $90 for a lipstick. Sisley foundation cost over $100 and they have 2 dark to deep shades. I went to see if I matched to one and I do and I bought it. How many of you are willing to pay $100 for foundation? My YSL foundation works just fine for half the price but I want Sisley to continue to produce dark to deep shades so I'm going to support. You can't get mad when high end brands over look us when you don't support them anyway and the numbers prove we don't.

 

[cupcake28]

I know makeup shades are scarce for dark to deep skin tones but the issue is not the brand per say but us the consumer. I close with a few high end brand reps and we do not buy in the percentage that makes it cost effective to produce shades for dark to deep skin tones. Most Black women are not going to pay 40+ dollars on a cosmetic when they have the option if drug store and MAC being cheaper. It cost a lot to maufactor products so why would continue to produce a deep foundation shade that you never sale or sale 2 for the whole year? That's a lot of money waisted so there's no value in producing shades that do not generate revenue. WOC talk about brands not being available for us but how many of you are buying from this high end brands? And I'm not talking about 1 or 2 items a year but multiple items from every collection that's released? You're not doing it and at the end of the year the majority of products that get discontinued are shades that were targeted for dark to deep skin tones because the profits aren't there. Look on any blog, YouTube, etc and there's only a handful that buy high end cosmetics CONSISTANTLY. I was going to start a YouTube channel for WOC but after researching I decided against it because it would be a waist of time. It would be too much work just for people to watch and comment oh that's too expensive! It's stupid to pay $90 for a lipstick. Sisley foundation cost over $100 and they have 2 dark to deep shades. I went to see if I matched to one and I do and I bought it. How many of you are willing to pay $100 for foundation? My YSL foundation works just fine for half the price but I want Sisley to continue to produce dark to deep shades so I'm going to support. You can't get mad when high end brands over look us when you don't support them anyway and the numbers prove we don't.

All they have to do is produce less and target affluent women/men with deeper skin tones on an international scale. The majority of the world is comprised of people of color. They just choose to market to Caucasians.

 

[Sugar & Spice]

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All they have to do is produce less and target affluent women/men with deeper skin tones on an international scale. The majority of the world is comprised of people of color. They just choose to market to Caucasians.

Why produce less when you're still going to loose money, the smart thing to do would be to not produce at all. Targeting affluent people with dark skin? That makes no sense when the average consumer is working class. Truly affluent people rarely even pay for luxury items anyway. You think Oprah really buy the CLs she wear? When it comes to international there are products for dark skin that are not produced in the US but are available in Europe, etc. because there is profit there and also why the cost of living is much higher than the US. There is no benefit to cater to dark skin in the US because WOC specifically are not buying High end makeup compared to other races. Giorgio Armani has been having dark to deep shades makeup for ages, do you wear it? That was my first high end foundation and I remember being so excited they had dark shades. You can't complain when you're not going to buy it anyway because it's already out there and you're still not supporting yet you want companies to keep investing. It makes no sense. This forum is proof in itself, go into the high end makeup threads and see how many WOC are actively hauling high end makeup? There are only 5 that I know right off hand compared and we're out numbered on the forum also which means we're out numbers as consumers. Regardless of how many of us are in the world, how many wear makeup and choose to spend the money for high end makeup? Not nearly enough to make a difference.

 

[pinkcrush]

All they have to do is produce less and target affluent women/men with deeper skin tones on an international scale. The majority of the world is comprised of people of color. They just choose to market to Caucasians.

I agree because when the Too Faced Born This Way liquid foundation came out I was utterly shocked that the shades didn't run past Rihanna/Beyoncé... I had developed a genuine interest in the brand after buying their Cocoa Powder foundation in Deep Tan and getting hooked. Imagine my surprise when swatching the deepest shade lol... My money obviously went elsewhere for a new foundation! They have since expanded the shade line but honestly I've lost interest lol...