shontay07108
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Yes and everybody needs at least one. Pigmented as hell and smooth as butter.
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Yes and everybody needs at least one. Pigmented as hell and smooth as butter.
fur4elise
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I have not but I have the two you list along with Spiced Cinnamon & the bronzer duos on my wish list
MaryJane
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Mel Thompson on You Tube reviewed some of the shades. I think she really like the peach palette.
patentg33k
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I'm on the hunt for a summer base product.
Does anyone know if Sephora carries a full-spectrum tinted sunscreen? Esp. if it has some physical sunscreen int here. I have the Drunk Elephant which does, but it's a little too dark.
Does anyone know if Sephora carries a full-spectrum tinted sunscreen? Esp. if it has some physical sunscreen int here. I have the Drunk Elephant which does, but it's a little too dark.
Alysse011
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I believe Josie Maran, Supergoop, and Coola have them. I think they all are just one color though. Suntegrity isn't available at Sephora, but they have one that comes in multiple shades. They're on Dermstore, and Dermstore has 20% off right now. It's called Suntegrity 5 in 1 Natural Moisturizing Face Sunscreen.
Winthrop44
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It's pretty difficult to find ones that are not too dark and/or orange. I'm NC10-15 and I know you're not that much darker. I use EltaMD Physical SPF 41. They make others you might prefer although I'm not familiar with any that are lighter tints. I buy it from lovelyskin.com (if you order try code ELTAMDSPF). It's a bit dark for me but I live with it. It might work for you. How do you get the DE to work for you? The untinted Umbra looks ok on me and I'd love to use it but it sucks all the moisture out of my skin and by the end of the day my face feels so tight I'd swear it has shrink wrap on it.
At Sephora you could try this Tarte:
BB Tinted Treatment 12-Hour Primer Broad Spectrum SPF 30 Sunscreen - tarte | Sephora
or maybe look at Shiseido?
I use this Coola one sometimes but it's untinted and always OOS at Sephora online. I buy it from Ulta:
Mineral Sun Silk Creme SPF 30 - COOLA | Sephora
Their tinted matte one has very little titanium and zinc.
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Mac-Guy
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Maybe mix DE Umbra with the regular one to get the tint that you want.
Monsy
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LA ROCHE POSAY SPF 30 mineral tinted
Winthrop44
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That only has titanium dioxide, so not full spectrum. Their untinted has both zinc & titanium.
Winthrop44
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Mixing anything with a physical ss supposedly interferes with the intended dispersion of the minerals and has a negative effect on protection. Personally I can't understand why it's a big deal when you're mixing two ss that differ by just the iron oxides, BUT when I emailed SkinCeuticals about mixing their tinted/untinted mineral sunscreens, Physical Fusion (which is too dark for me) and Sheer Physical, which is pretty much the same situation, they gave me a very big lecture on how it was not okay.
Do you use the DE ss and not find it sucks the moisture out of your skin?
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Mac-Guy
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I meant mixing the DE Umbra Tinte with the Umbra Sheer. I use the tinted one on my face and the sheer one on my neck and down. During the winter months I mix both to customize for my face.
I don't find the DE sunscreen too drying in comparison to other brands. I apply the C Serum, Protini, B-Hydra and a few drops of the Marula oil first and it keeps me pretty moist. It would probably be drying without another base. I love that it doesn't sting and goes so well with my make up. I wonder when DE will come out with an SPF 50 though.
Winthrop44
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Yep, I know. I was saying that mixing DE Tinte + DE Umbra Sheer is the same concept as mixing SCPF + SCSP. I can picture mixing possibly being more problematic to dispersion of the minerals in a liquid formula like the Skinceuticals than in a cream formula like the DE, but I do respect Skinceuticals so decided to heed their warning on mixing any...even practically identical ...ss. They really had no ulterior motive to tell me not to when I was suggesting mixing two of their own products. Having already had one basal cell ca on my face I don't want to take chances and ideally prefer to stick with SPF 50 anyway. On Instagram DE has not been encouraging about coming out with an SPF 50 when people have asked. They used to tell people to mix everything under the sun with Umbra or Tinte until more recently when they said they did "internal testing" and all they can say is that 1 drop of D-Bronzi or one pump of C-Firma did not alter protection. Maybe they would still feel mixing Umbra + Tinte is ok but I haven't seen them actually say that on Instagram in quite awhile. It would be a good question for Nathan. I aim to keep my summer skin = my winter skin.
I've tried a lot of different DE mixes under Umbra and still haven't come up with one that makes Umbra usable for me. I do still try from time to time when I know I won't be outside much, thinking I'll come up with some magical combo! LOL I guess I really haven't tried that much with C-Firma in the mix since I stopped that when I started A-Passioni. I really miss C-Firma because I felt like it was doing a lot more for me than A-Passioni (but I'm only at the 3 month mark with A-Passioni). I also detest the smell of the reformulated C-Firma, lol, but maybe I'll hold my nose and give it another try under Umbra. Thanks!
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Mac-Guy
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Thanks for explaining. I guess that companies want to be on the safe side. However, it would also mean that layering different products would have a similar negative negative effect on the performance of sunscreen?!
Personally, I don't mix DE Umbra with another skincare product as it would only dilute it. I mix all the other DE products though and I enjoy that I only have one single application. But sunscreen is always the last step.
Is the C-Firma and A-Passioni together too much for your skin? If I had to choose one, I would go with C-Firma. I don't find A-Passioni very strong in comparison to Retin-A. Maybe you will see better results with A-Passioni if you use it more often - once your skin is accustomed to it. Sometimes more is less though, especially if you have sensitive skin.
Too bad that DE is not too keen on SPF 50. I assume that it is more difficult to formulate (white cast, drying, etc.).
Winthrop44
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Thanks for explaining. I guess that companies want to be on the safe side. However, it would also mean that layering different products would have a similar negative negative effect on the performance of sunscreen?!
Personally, I don't mix DE Umbra with another skincare product as it would only dilute it. I mix all the other DE products though and I enjoy that I only have one single application. But sunscreen is always the last step.
Is the C-Firma and A-Passioni together too much for your skin? If I had to choose one, I would go with C-Firma. I don't find A-Passioni very strong in comparison to Retin-A. Maybe you will see better results with A-Passioni if you use it more often - once your skin is accustomed to it. Sometimes more is less though, especially if you have sensitive skin.
Too bad that DE is not too keen on SPF 50. I assume that it is more difficult to formulate (white cast, drying, etc.).
Exactly. They said they haven't come up with anything that looked or applied acceptably. I have been holding off on C-Firma because I've assumed it would be too much for my skin with A-Passioni, but I'm going to add it back at this point and see what happens.
Alysse011
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After reading these comments, I did some Googling about mixing sunscreens. It never really occurred to me that mixing SPF could be a problem. I have a tinted sunscreen and an untinted, and I have mixed them to achieve a lighter shade for me in the winter. I'll need to stop doing that, just to be safe. Apparently it's an issue of chemicals degrading the integrity of the sunscreen formula when/if mixed with something else.
But I do wonder what that means for products applied on top. My dermatologist's advice is to wait about 10 minutes after applying sunscreen to apply any other base product, so that's what I do if I'm applying makeup on top. I guess that gives everything a chance to "settle" and makes the chances of reacting less?
But I do wonder what that means for products applied on top. My dermatologist's advice is to wait about 10 minutes after applying sunscreen to apply any other base product, so that's what I do if I'm applying makeup on top. I guess that gives everything a chance to "settle" and makes the chances of reacting less?
Winthrop44
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When it comes to physical sunscreens the idea is that you don't want to disturb the veil of minerals that cover your face...so mixing something into a formula that was designed with particle sizes and dispersion in a very particular way to achieve that coverage or smooshing foundation over the top and disturbing the veil/smearing it off is a problem. There are studies that people have posted on the MUA skin care board about this but since they messed up those boards with a redesign I wouldn't be able to find them atm (or maybe never, lol). Anyway the thought is to do what your derm suggested and then don't do a ton of buffing. Some people on the SCB just pat their makeup on top. I am not that careful but I do think about it and try to blend gently. If I can find any of that stuff on MUA I will come back to post it here.
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