Getting a RESTRAINING ORDER on roommate

Brittni

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You are an angel, Beauty Mark. Thank you so much -- it really does mean a lot more than you know.

1 1/2 hours until work is FINALLY over. This day is dragging. Then it's off to deal with this issue more. Bleh!
 

rbella

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Hey, Brittni,
Please check in when you get a minute to let us know you are ok.

Thanks and wishing you good luck...
 

Brittni

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Hi ladies. Sorry I didn't check in again last night. A LOT happened! And Skylar can voucher for me on that one!

So... after getting off work and going back to my mom's, we grabbed the TRO and drove by my house. We saw chickabitch and her friend walking in the house, so we knew they were home. Then I dropped my mom off at Walgreen's and I called the police to come serve her. They met me out front of the house but a little off to the side (don't think she saw me) and then they let me leave before they served her.

So, I went back to Walgreens with my mom and we waited for the police to call. We ended up driving around so my mom could see more of the area and had to stop to get gas. When we were pumping gas, I got a phone call. I thought it was the officers calling to say I could return to the house now and she had left. WRONG! It was chickabitch's MOTHER. Her mother was like "Brittni?" me: "Yeah, who is this?" (me thinking it was chickabitch's friend at this point) her: "This is Elise's mother, what the HELL is going on!?" and I said: "I can't talk to you, this is 3rd party violation..." and she said "We are NOT going to go through this AGAIN. THIS IS ALL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET ALONG WITH PEOPLE. YOU BETTER TAKE CARE OF THIS." And I said: "I can't talk to you. I'm going to hang up now, bye." so then I hung up...

For one, that's a violationg of chickabitch's TRO. She cannot have any 3rd party contact or "harass" me besides her lawyer. Obviously, she was violating this b/c chickabitch had to have been served the papers to call her mom and let her know what was up.

For two, what does her mom mean AGAIN? Has her daughter had problems like this before? Hmm. And *I* can't get along with people? I get along with almost everyone I know, has she ever even thought to think her daughter could be at fault?

For three, *I* need to take care of this? I thought that's what I'm doing... taking care of it. Don't threaten me, lady.

Okay so this really set my mom off. We couldn't believe her mom called me, YELLING at me, etc. So we called back dispatch (because at this point the officers still hadn't called saying the house was cleared) and they said the officers would call me. Well about 10 minutes later they did saying I could come back to the house.

We went back to the house and the officers said that technically she isn't "served" the TRO until it's in the system which they do when they get back to the station - that's bullshit. Once the paper is in the party's hand, they have been served. So they didn't do anything about the violation, but that's fine b/c we can just bring it up in court and I have the call log time to prove it. you know?

And then the officers were SO rude. One was like, "in 8 years I haven't seen anything like this, I would advise your daughter to stay away from the house. This other girl pays rent I don't see why she should have to leave." So...I should have to leave b/c I'm a victim and being threatened and pushed out of this house... and should lay on my back and pay rent for them to stay there? I. don't. think. so. What an idiot cop!

So then the cops left, and mom and I were packing up some of my clothes, make-up, necessities, etc. Lo-and behold, poco (third roomie, ex "friend") walks in the house PISSED OFF.
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At this point, I don't care. I knew she'd be pissed off. Truly, we never realized how much of a complete idiot she is. It's horrible to say if it weren't true, but it's true and that's frightening.

Poco starts screaming at me about how this is all "DRAMA" and *I'm* being "CRAZY"! LOL. I tried calmly explaining to her, "you've told me before -- you're not my mom, and you're not her mom, so stay out of it." and she just insists it's all about her. She says now it's affecting her b/c "you know I can't stay in a house by myself!"... but it was fine when I wasn't there before? Exactly. And she just was going in circles with her talking, "Well this is ridiculous, you just should've hashed it out with chickabich." HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TRY? I gave her the analogy of... if I touch my hand on hot coals, how many times am I gonna do it until I realize I keep getting burned? She still didn't get it. So, mom and I left and poco stayed angry.

Well then poco and I talked a bit on the phone and poco still refused to see my P.O.V. Basically acting like this is all my fault. They both (chicka and poco) manipulate it and always do that which makes me feel like shit and why I was afraid to get the TRO anyways. Well, poco is sitting here saying "YOU'RE NEVER EVEN AT THE HOUSE TO TALK TO HER!" ... The 3 times I have been there, there has been 3 different, significant, scary incidents. Again, the coal analogy. Also then poco is like "you're making too big of a fuss over her taking the labels off your stuff, she was just offended by them." So, because she's offended by my labels (WTF? bullshit.) of MY property, she thinks she can take them off? Wait, poco, didn't you tell me *I* should be talking it out with chicka... but chicka doesn't have to talk things out with me that offend her, so instead she just gets to mess with my property? Prime example of her idiocy.

And even then, I said..chicka could've texted me if she wanted to talk. Poco said "NOT EVERYONE LIKES TO COMMUNICATE VIA TEXT!!!" and I said, duh... I understand that, but dropping a line to say we need to talk in person doesn't hurt... Yeah, she had no point after that.


I told Poco, "Chicka and I cannot live in the same house together. So, we need to let the judge decide on what to do about it." And poco just says "All you gotta do is co-exist. You don't have to like her, she doesn't have to like you, just pay your rent and CO-EXIST." But she doesn't realize... how the eff am I supposed to co-exist with someone who disrespects me, THREATENS me, brings weird people into the house, etc? That's not co-existing, and certainly not happily, in my view. I never asked to be this crazy bitch's friend anyway. I asked for respect and got threats.

Well, so we get off the phone and mom and I are driving home.

Which, by the way, we know chickabitch is going back to the house that night -- the cops didn't make her move her car, and her cousin's house is 3 doors down... which is violatioin #2 by the way as she's supposed to stay 300 ft. away... and it's not no 300 ft between 3 houses.

So mom and I are driving home and then poco calls me back. "WHY DID YOU LIE??? SHE NEVER THREATENED TO PUSH YOU DOWN THE STAIRS, I WAS THERE." All this crap trying to COAX me into saying that I lied - I didn't. Not to mention at this point I *knew* poco was over at chickabitch's cousins house with them because I heard chickabitch in the background yelling stuff. *Ahem* WELCOME TO VIOLATION #3. So I said, "Poco, you're being 3rd party and that's violationing chicka's TRO. I gotta go." Shes like "ARE U SERIOUS, ARE U EFFIN SERIOUS?" ... IDIOTS!! OMG!!! LOL

Today on the list of to-do's is to call the sheriff's and talk to them about the violations, as well as find a good lawyer or legal aid. The one lawyer offered to do my case but wants $1,500.00 up front -- we don't have that kind of money. However I work at a law office (not related fields) so maybe one of the lawyer's here knows somebody or can give me some sort of advice... I'm just really too shy to ask.

Oh and then poco was screaming on the phone to me about how crazy I'm being and "EVERYONE" thinks so. Who is everyone that she talked to in a matter of 15 minutes from my mom and I leaving the house? Poco was down by chickabitch's cousin's house at that time... so poco, chickabitch, chickabitch's cousin and friends think I'm being CRAZY? That's "NO ONE" in my books... But again, trying to manipulate me and make me feel like...

Maybe my mom and I are crazy. Maybe the way we think logically isn't logical at all. Are we wrong? I mean last night when we got home we seriously had that discussion, like WTF?

The sad thing is I'm the one who found the house, organized our security deposit and rent payments, invited this crazy bitch to live with us (before I knew LOL), etc...Then even when we knew she didn't like us (or me) before hand, my mom had tried calling her mom to see if chicka would get off of the lease... and they outright refused... I feel like I've done everything right in my power to try and make this work, and yet poco/chicka keep yelling at me saying try harder try harder or something, wtf. and I'm like being punished not only by probably having to move out unless the judge does kick her out (GOD I HOPE SO! I can't fathom why not, but who knows if the judge is cranky that day or something.)
 

chaut_01

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dang...it sounds like one hell of a frustrating situation. chickabitch and poco, and their moms and cousins are all sad and pathetic.their just angry cause you acutally DID something instead of NOTHING. and law inforcments here where i live are pathetic also...most of them but not all.
 

Lauren1981

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all this drama sucks big time but i just say get the b*tch out of the house so that you're able to live comfortably.

i've had roommates from hell recently and while i was in college. i actually had a friend that turned out she was ALWAYS into some shit with her friends and roommates (like chickabitch). her mom sided with her of course saying that people were just jealous of her daughter but when things like that happen repeatedly to someone, then it's that person.

just let this be a lesson learned. try to know the person well before trusting them. or if you're in a "roommates.com" type situation just do something to where no one is on the lease but YOU so that you still keep that upper hand over who lives with you because if it was just you, you could have kicked that b*tch out a LONG time ago.

so hang in there
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these things are dramatic and draining but you'll get through it

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Brittni

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Thanks chaut and Lauren.
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We did know her before hand, for only about 3 months, but she was always nice online and when we would meet in person. Then stuff started to change closer to move-in date, and when I knew it wasn't going to be alright, I tried to nip it in the bud. For chickabitch, it's all about the house. For me, it's not. Regardless if I live in that house or not (yes, it's SO nice and I won't find anything to that standard in the surrounding area) it's about safety and respect. It's about making sure, regardless if I have to move or she does, that this TRO becomes a final RO.
 

Beauty Mark

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Well, the apple didn't fall too far from the tree, huh?

Some of it is normal shitty roommate stuff (the obnoxious guests). However, it still remains you were threatened repeatedly. That is above and beyond what anyone should tolerate.

You know what probably is going on? Your two witches living there and their people think that you're a nice person and you'll cave. Shitty people can spot nice people a mile away and possess a magical gift of manipulating them, because the nice person is nice.

The fact you took time to consider things and were willing to listen to strangers' advice and are still considering you were wrong speaks volumes to the kind of person you are. The fact they automatically think you're crazy and that it's your problem (regardless of who is at fault, it is actually ALL of your problems to solve; you seem to be the only one who has a solution) speaks volumes about them

I would check with the university to see if they have any help for finding a cheaper lawyer. You might want to look into advocacy groups for domestic situations; it isn't totally a domestic violence situation, but they might know of some pro bono lawyers.
 

Brittni

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Thank you Beauty. I re-read that twice and I couldn't agree more.

I'm so happy you can see what rationally and so can others...but I just cannot comprehend why they refuse to see it that way? I know we all weren't raised the same and whatnot, but in my head it seems so logical and unjustifiable what they've been doing... and then they just start spurting out tons of words and manipulations trying to make it seem like it's not logical... but the truth is, the logic behind their views is what is completely wrong. I can't fix that, though, I've obviously tried with no success and I do feel this is the route I have to go. I hope the judge agrees with me at the Final Hearing so maybe they will finally GET IT!
 

k.a.t

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Wow what a horrible situation to be in. I am so sorry this is happening to you, you really don't deserve this. This girl sounds like a psycho, i mean wth she's crazy! She has some real problems, it sucks that you had to put up with her crazy self..
Well good luck with this whole thing i hope you get the safety and security you need, no one should feel like this and she should not get away with it. Chickabitch needs to be locked away in an institute FAST.
 

Willa

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I can't believe how immature people can be
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I had roomates twice in my life.
The first time I moved out my parent's house, I went in an apartment with a friend, but she kept on pushing the signing of the lease (it was her parent's building). I understood too late that she did it on purpose and used me to leave her parent's place, did not make me sign the lease so she could throw me out anytime.

At the end (about 8 months) I was a stranger to my house, I mean by this that the girls I was hanging out with since 5 years became strangers to me, I was always unwanted at my own place... I left because I couldnt take it anymore. And with all the furniture, because she only had the refrigerator and her bedroom stuff MUHAHAHAHA

And the other person was a guy who was a friend of a girl I knew online. So... I know, it wasnt really bright from me to move in with him but anyway, that time it was only my name on the lease, so I could throw him out if needed.

He made me endure frustrating situations, I got enought and threw him out after 3 months. Enough is enough.

Maybe you should just give up for your own health and leave the place. Find them another girl, make a new lease with the owner and leave... You don't deserve this. They are crazy and I don't think it'll change in the next months...
 

Beauty Mark

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Originally Posted by Brittni
Thank you Beauty. I re-read that twice and I couldn't agree more.

I'm so happy you can see what rationally and so can others...but I just cannot comprehend why they refuse to see it that way? I know we all weren't raised the same and whatnot, but in my head it seems so logical and unjustifiable what they've been doing... and then they just start spurting out tons of words and manipulations trying to make it seem like it's not logical... but the truth is, the logic behind their views is what is completely wrong. I can't fix that, though, I've obviously tried with no success and I do feel this is the route I have to go. I hope the judge agrees with me at the Final Hearing so maybe they will finally GET IT!


Some people think they're special, sparkly, little princesses and that NOTHING they do is wrong or slightly wrong. Anyone who questions their actions is bad and ugly and must hate them out of jellusy.

Slightly unrelated, but while working the other day, I heard some girls complain about someone suggesting that they both create more professional email addresses. Their email addresses are like [email protected]. They were amused but I think a little irked. It's solid advice for anyone trying to get a real job, yet they refused to see it
 

Brittni

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Oh yes, the famous jellusy. I'm SO jealous of chickabitch and poco becoming friends, and that poco is spending time with her -- that's what this is all really about, you know. (laughing - but poco has said that to me before. I tried to brush it off as her sparkly tiara blinded my eyes.)


Quick update.

Spoke with my mom on my lunch break. She called the sheriff's (the 2 who are in charge of all the TRO's and who was supposed to serve ours or w/e...refer to other posts) and he said that the way the cops handled it last night was completely wrong. He said that we were right and he was wrong. I have every right to be there and he can't tell me not to. (The officer last night was threatening to void the house so no one could be there until the hearing) Anyways, the sheriff gave my mom the Captain's number so now that cop from last night should get a talking to. Also the violations are found and mom needs to mention them to the Captain as those are wrong especially b/c her mom threatened me too.

Also I just wanted to throw out there that last night Poco was yelling at me and said my mom needs to stay out of my battles. How the hell is my mom not supposed to be involved when I have had to move back into her house and am waking her up at 3am etc calling crying b/c of these two and their antics? Exactly.

So I called on lunch and got ahold of a non-profit lawyer organization and it's based on income. Luckily I only have to pay $200.00 for representation. We don't need a fancy lawyer, because we have all the facts, evidence, proof, but we do need someone to represent us. So that's a relief. I meet with them on Saturday at 10:30 a.m. so I can't wait to see what they have to say and then I meet with my lawyer after that again.

Thank you all for your continuing support and concern.
 

k.a.t

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Good, that idiotic cop you dealt with deserves a telling..maybe more than just a telling haha.

That's good that you found that non-profit organization, by the looks of it, it seems you have more than enough evidence to win this case. Good luck!
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girlsaidwhat

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Honestly, this is about /how you feel/.
That's perfectly fine.

I mean, you don't feel safe living in that house.
And you don't want to live like that.
Who wants to live like that??

I don't think you're crazy for not wanting to feel constantly traumatized, never able to relax or just... feel good.

Other people have other ideas of how they want /their/ lives to be. Some people really love drama. They create it with their choices. They are addicted to it, and their own negative issues that cause it.

You have the right to not want to live this way.

Now it's just down to the legalities of the situation. Those are the big questions. Try to stay focused on the truth at the heart of the situation, and try to not get ...too caught up in the drama and details.

She's just pissed because she really pushed your buttons, just like she wanted to, exactly as she tried to....only she didn't get the reaction she wanted. Obviously, this is a person with /issues/.



Stay strong.
 

Beauty Mark

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Also I just wanted to throw out there that last night Poco was yelling at me and said my mom needs to stay out of my battles. How the hell is my mom not supposed to be involved when I have had to move back into her house and am waking her up at 3am etc calling crying b/c of these two and their antics? Exactly.

That's rich, considering that girl had her mother call and threaten you.
 

Sario

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*offers huge hugs!* Nope, not gonna tell you to try to talk it over with this one because you obviously already have and she's made no effort to change afterwards, it would do no good. At this point I'd say definitely go for the paperwork to legally keep this crazy chick away, she's creating a destructive environment and making you afraid to sleep in your own home. NOT COOL. Please please please file the paperwork as soon as you can, people like this are just plain unstable! *huge hugs again!*

So glad you were able to get in touch with legal help too, that'll make it that much more solid. Best of wishes, I just can't imagine what stress this must be! But you can get through this and you will get through this sweetie, I promise, you're strong!
 

chaut_01

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I hope that cop gets what he deserves! i am glad you got a lawyer! i really hope everything works out for you and the judge will stick it to them good. people are just looney bins these days!
 

Ms. Z

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Brittni; " and she said "We are NOT going to go through this [B said:
AGAIN.[/b]
For two, what does her mom mean AGAIN? Has her daughter had problems like this before? Hmm.

WOW, so she's done this before; sounds like something else that may work in your favor in court.

Lo-and behold, poco (third roomie, ex "friend") walks in the house PISSED OFF. She's such a A**! Maybe she'll see things differently when chickabitch does this to her.

Poco starts screaming at me about how this is all "DRAMA" and *I'm* being "CRAZY"! LOL. I tried calmly explaining to her, "you've told me before -- you're not my mom, and you're not her mom, so stay out of it." and she just insists it's all about her.
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Well then poco and I talked a bit on the phone and poco still refused to see my P.O.V.
You are obviously wasting your time w/POCO; you don't owe her an explanation, if she can't see that people should respect one another than that's her problem.
Also then poco is like "you're making too big of a fuss over her taking the labels off your stuff, she was just offended by them."
I can see how this may be perceived as rude and or offensive, maybe this is the one thing you should not ever do again. Maybe you can keep the receipts for everything you purchase and photograph all of your belongings, keep this in a safe place just in case you need them in the future.
Although you did this, its not an excuse for her bad behavior, she was difficult from day one.
However I work at a law office (not related fields) so maybe one of the lawyer's here knows somebody or can give me some sort of advice... I'm just really too shy to ask.
I can understand how you feel, I used to be terribly she too, but they may be able to help you and since you work there they may not charge you (co-worker courtesy)

Maybe my mom and I are crazy. Maybe the way we think logically isn't logical at all. Are we wrong? I mean last night when we got home we seriously had that discussion, like WTF?
Don't allow anyone to make you feel that way, don't doubt yourself. While its true that Roomates don't have to be friends, they should respect one another (and their property), they shouldn't bring strangers home, it's dangerous (and than more than one!) and they should be considerate about noise, not only to you but to all the other nearby neighbors.


And then the officers were SO rude. One was like, "in 8 years I haven't seen anything like this, I would advise your daughter to stay away from the house. This other girl pays rent I don't see why she should have to leave." So...I should have to leave b/c I'm a victim and being threatened and pushed out of this house... and should lay on my back and pay rent for them to stay there? I. don't. think. so. What an idiot cop!
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The officer(s) is an idiot. That's right, you pay rent too, and its your furniture.



Stay strong!
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Ms. Z

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I tried to brush it off as her sparkly tiara blinded my eyes.)
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Quick update.

Spoke with my mom on my lunch break. She called the sheriff's (the 2 who are in charge of all the TRO's and who was supposed to serve ours or w/e...refer to other posts) and he said that the way the cops handled it last night was completely wrong. He said that we were right and he was wrong. I have every right to be there and he can't tell me not to. (The officer last night was threatening to void the house so no one could be there until the hearing) Anyways, the sheriff gave my mom the Captain's number so now that cop from last night should get a talking to. Also the violations are found and mom needs to mention them to the Captain as those are wrong especially b/c her mom threatened me too.


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I read this after I had already posted. I'm so glad the officers superior was unbiased and spoke the truth.
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