All Ages, All Races, All Sexes....o rly?

[xbeatofangelx]

I don't consider physical beauty having to do anything with personality or age, but people in this thread are suggesting more wrinkles? saggier skin/features? IMHO, those would not make Raquel Welch more physically attractive in the latest MAC ads. I know plenty of people who aren't the most beautiful on the outside, but they are glowing on the inside - I don't think that changes the fact that they're not too great looking PHYSICALLY - emphasis is physical appearance.

Not trying to hurt anyone's feelings! I think plenty of older women are beautiful - think Devil wears prada especially!

 

[flowerhead]

They should have left some wrinkles in, definately...not many, but she is smiling, even 20-year olds have faint creases next to their eyes when they smile, for fucks sake. Yes she barely has any wrinkles in person..but she doesn't look like a person who looks good for their age, her skin is tight and slightly shiny - what you get when you have too many chemical peels and facelifts. Anyway, in my opinion none of this makes up for the fact that all the makeup in this line is BORING.

 

[lsperry]

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Originally Posted by flowerhead They should have left some wrinkles in, definately...not many, but she is smiling, even 20-year olds have faint creases next to their eyes when they smile, for fucks sake. Yes she barely has any wrinkles in person..but she doesn't look like a person who looks good for their age, her skin is tight and slightly shiny - what you get when you have too many chemical peels and facelifts. Anyway, in my opinion none of this makes up for the fact that all the makeup in this line is BORING.

My thoughts exactly!! This campaign certainly belies MAC's slogan because these pics run counter to "all ages" when they fear showing her true age by photoshopping and air-brushing her back to a 10-yr-old's skin....AND YES, this collection was not the greatest. I only got the quads and were somewhat disappointed with them!

 

[Moyra]

I'm 51, and a professional digital artist. The Photoshopping was evident, but frankly, who cares? Rachel Welch (and Catherine Deneuve) are drop dead gorgeous, even without the help of a digital day at the spa.
Almost every single photograph gets this treatment nowadays, even in the case of very young models. It is just the practice in print and even TV ads nowadays (anyone seen the skincare ads with Sarah Jessica Parker, were here entire face except for her eyes have been post-processed to remove ALL age signs, hmmm?).
I am older than most people here, and I took no offence. On the contrary, I am thrilled to see Icons that are even older than ME. Heh.
I also loved the Rachel collection - although her coloring and mine are very different, it was perfect, understated yet dramatic and immensely wearable for day or evening. Beside the Xmas collections, which I always seem to buy up, I bought the most from the Rachel Icon collection than from any other in the 5 years since I discovered Mac cosmetics.
Rachel Welch and Catherine Deneuve are not "beautiful for their age".
They are just beautiful.
And its very encouraging to see that Mac does agree that beauty can be ageless, and puts out collections which truly are ageless.

 

[saniyairshad]

OMG I totally agree...im so glad someone posted this

 

[user79]

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Originally Posted by Moyra I'm 51, and a professional digital artist. The Photoshopping was evident, but frankly, who cares? Rachel Welch (and Catherine Deneuve) are drop dead gorgeous, even without the help of a digital day at the spa. Almost every single photograph gets this treatment nowadays, even in the case of very young models. It is just the practice in print and even TV ads nowadays (anyone seen the skincare ads with Sarah Jessica Parker, were here entire face except for her eyes have been post-processed to remove ALL age signs, hmmm?). Rachel Welch and Catherine Deneuve are not "beautiful for their age". They are just beautiful. And its very encouraging to see that Mac does agree that beauty can be ageless, and puts out collections which truly are ageless.

I know that all print ads are photoshopped, but it would be nice if these pictures would actually BE an attest that older women can be just as beautiful as well, even if they have wrinkles and laugh lines, etc. I think it would send a stronger signal.

If MAC wanted to show that women can be just as beautiful with age, I don't think they should photoshop all the signs of natural aging away.

BTW I do think that most cosmetic ads are waaay too touched up, the images don't even look real anymore most times. They look like porcelain dolls.

That's just my opinion, though.

 

[Aprilrobin]

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Originally Posted by Shimmer What makes an older person less beautiful? Age? Really? Because I've seen people get better as they get older. Think Diane Lane. She's gotten better and better as she's gotten older. My own looks have improved as I've gotten older, I know more than a few women personally who have all improved with age. Age doesn't make you ugly. Personality sure will though.

LOL, ...don't sweat it. The appreciation of real beauty takes a little widsom and experience and that comes with age.
They'll all get it one day

 

[rouquinne]

i'm almost 47 and think i look older than Raquel in her photos - and she's my mom's age!

however, i'm careful to take good care of my skin and people tend to place my age at 10 to 15 years younger. and i don't have the benefit of plastic surgery or Botox - yet!

 

[Peanut_Colada]

I understand why they felt the need to photoshop the ad, but at the same time it's a bit disconcerting when her skin looks better than mine and I'm only 21. What hope do I have for when I'm 67

Couldn't they have left some of her natural wrinkles?

 

[rouquinne]

it's funny, because i'm writing a column right now where i'm addressing a lot of under 30 women who are TERRIFIED of getting wrinkles.

they use products that are too heavy for their skin and wonder why they have problems. and, of course, NONE of them will use sunscreen or wear big, dark glasses because that's not "cool" or the sunscreen makes them break out.

by air-brushing the hell out of the "icons", our favourite company is feeding in to the notion that wrinkles are A Bad Thing.

and THAT is a worse thing.

wrinkles are a fact of life and they add character to our features. i think my face is more interesting now that i've lived and you can see some of the hereditary lines here and there.

wrinkles are a badge of courage and a sign of a life well-lived, not something to be feared...

 

[BlurredMascara]

Woah she doesn't look 67 at all! To much airbrushing. Although I will say she does look good.

 

[Dianora]

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Originally Posted by rouquinne it's funny, because i'm writing a column right now where i'm addressing a lot of under 30 women who are TERRIFIED of getting wrinkles. they use products that are too heavy for their skin and wonder why they have problems. and, of course, NONE of them will use sunscreen or wear big, dark glasses because that's not "cool" or the sunscreen makes them break out.

It's interesting you say that, and cosmetic companies really contribute to that fear. I went looking at the drug store for an eye cream to simply keep my eye area moisturized, and I couldn't find a single thing that wasn't "anti-wrinkles" or "anti-aging." I'm only 23 and have been wearing an SPF 15 on my face every day since I was 16, I don't need anti-wrinkle stuff, but there wasn't even one product I could find that wasn't in this category.

I'm not terrified of wrinkles, but I am doing my best to prevent any extra aggravation of my skin (such as sun and cigarettes) on top of what natural aging does to it.

 

[GothicGirl]

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Originally Posted by madkitty very true and my mum always has problems at our mac counter too as they always ignore her or are short - she takes me along now as she says it makes a difference having someone younger there

OMG! I got quite disapponited when I read that. I´ve never been to a MAC counter, since there´s none in the State I live (I order all my MAC from girls who live in the USA and ship the products to me), but I keep thinking how bad it must be, to go to a makeup store that proclaims to be about "all races, all sexes, all ages", and be completely ignored because you don´t have the same age, sex or race as the main consumer target.

 

[Jennybabes]

I think it is sad that they felt the need to so heavily photoshop the images of Raquel - if you look at shots of her as she is, she is still hot - I think they should have shown that in the advertising.

 

[Brumbjorn]

You forgot "All Sizes" on that header. Baby doll shirts tend to run small, so I doubt that the large would have fit me (the curse of being busty)

I agree on the photoshopping thing though. I'm probably on the older end of the spectrum of ages around here, so seeing that photoshopped makes me a little sad.

 

[syren]

I wish the Icon photos weren't as photoshopped as they are. All those women have earned those wrinkles and laughlines. They've earned the icon status. It seems a bit silly to select these women because they've been beacons of beauty for so long (and in such brilliant, unique ways) and then wipe out every sign of that longevity and individuality.

I wish they'd make Sophia Loren an icon, but I would be horribly saddened if she ended up looking like a mannequin.

 

[skygirl77]

I've actually seen Raquel Welch in person on one of my flights I was working, she truly looks much younger than 67...
Absolutely beautiful and very down to earth.

 

[queenofdisaster]

seriously, but who is going to put a wrinkly shriveled up old woman on a makeup ad? lol!!!

 

[AllisonWeaver]

We can not retain our youth, and I agree that the pictures send a false message, and contradict MAC's 'slogan'.

 

[-moonflower-]

Bloody hell, she's got less wrinkles than me in those shots, and I'm 17.
I hate the way people are terrified of ageing.