NaturalSister19
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Another MA's work on you
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lara
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Pretty much. Product overview, announcement of upcoming events/colour stories, group focus, skills update and some practical application.
Originally Posted by CantAffordMAC
is an update kind of like a color class is for hair? like is that for the employees/artists to try out and get knowledge on new makeup coming out? |
Pretty much. Product overview, announcement of upcoming events/colour stories, group focus, skills update and some practical application.
MisStarrlight
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I can't handle other people putting makeup on me (unless false lashes are included)...my lashes are so light that whenever people put liner & mascara on me there is a giant gap at my lashline...ugh!
None of us ever keep our makeup on after Updates...I always end up with the new kids too (I guess that teacher in me gives me the patience ot deal w/ them), but we always do the rotations right before a break & the trainers give us time to take it off & fix ourselves up. I also never let the other artist take off my eyebrows since they are the hardest thing to put back on.
None of us ever keep our makeup on after Updates...I always end up with the new kids too (I guess that teacher in me gives me the patience ot deal w/ them), but we always do the rotations right before a break & the trainers give us time to take it off & fix ourselves up. I also never let the other artist take off my eyebrows since they are the hardest thing to put back on.
giz2000
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I used to do that at every Update...we all did...I think the only time I wore the makeup home was after the Madame B update, when we had these beautiful butterfly masks painted on by the trainers...people looked at us funny in the car, but we didn't care!
| Originally Posted by claresauntie
Prior to this update, I just wipe my face with a Cleansing Wipe and then put on some Studio Fix and a bit of gloss. I tell them "Gosh, I love that look you did, but I have somewhere to go right after this and that look won't be appropriate. It's really more appropriate for a toned-down look." |
I used to do that at every Update...we all did...I think the only time I wore the makeup home was after the Madame B update, when we had these beautiful butterfly masks painted on by the trainers...people looked at us funny in the car, but we didn't care!
BloodMittens
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Oh gawd, that reminds me of something that happened to me a long time ago. Okay, story from like 4 years ago!
So I never used to wear makeup really, just eyeliner and I would run out of the house, but one day I was christmas shopping with my mom at Carson's and there was a special going on at Clinique. It was a "Get a makeover and get a free lipstick!" thing and if you spent $25 you got some more free stuff too. So my mom didn't want to get her makeup done so she made me do it. I had to pick from three lipsticks for them to work around on my face. I picked the lightest pink, because lighter lipsticks look a lot LOT better on my skintone from experience. Anyways, she said "But this would look better!" and grabbed this dark pink/red color. I was mortified, but let her do it because I didn't want to insult her. She did my eyemakeup fine, but she picked a really dark plum blush for my face and a darker lipliner to make the dark lipstick even DARKER!
Anyways, so when I got out of the chair, I picked my free lipstick (the light one) and refused to look in the mirror because I knew I was going to make a bad face. I smiled and told her thank you and my mom let me pick out some stuff for part of my christmas present. I got some iced lotus blush and some skin care products so my mom could get the free samples.
Anyways, I went into the bathroom at Carson's and again, refused to look in the mirror until I went potty. I came back out and almost screamed. I looked HORRIBLE! My mom told me "It looks good!" and I was like "What part of this looks GOOD!?! I look like a baby drag queen!" and NOT in a good way. I kleenexed off the blush and dabbed my lips, applying the lighter color lipstick. I looked better and made sure to avoid the Clinique counter. >_>'''
So I never used to wear makeup really, just eyeliner and I would run out of the house, but one day I was christmas shopping with my mom at Carson's and there was a special going on at Clinique. It was a "Get a makeover and get a free lipstick!" thing and if you spent $25 you got some more free stuff too. So my mom didn't want to get her makeup done so she made me do it. I had to pick from three lipsticks for them to work around on my face. I picked the lightest pink, because lighter lipsticks look a lot LOT better on my skintone from experience. Anyways, she said "But this would look better!" and grabbed this dark pink/red color. I was mortified, but let her do it because I didn't want to insult her. She did my eyemakeup fine, but she picked a really dark plum blush for my face and a darker lipliner to make the dark lipstick even DARKER!
Anyways, so when I got out of the chair, I picked my free lipstick (the light one) and refused to look in the mirror because I knew I was going to make a bad face. I smiled and told her thank you and my mom let me pick out some stuff for part of my christmas present. I got some iced lotus blush and some skin care products so my mom could get the free samples.
Anyways, I went into the bathroom at Carson's and again, refused to look in the mirror until I went potty. I came back out and almost screamed. I looked HORRIBLE! My mom told me "It looks good!" and I was like "What part of this looks GOOD!?! I look like a baby drag queen!" and NOT in a good way. I kleenexed off the blush and dabbed my lips, applying the lighter color lipstick. I looked better and made sure to avoid the Clinique counter. >_>'''
sassychix
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Tho I'm a freelance Makeup Artist, only 1 year into it, I totally cannot stand anyone else doing my makeup.Maybe its cuz we feel we know our taste better and understand our face better. I have real dark eye circles and usualyl use foundation, AND concealer AND pressed powder over it. Most makeup artist may find it too thick, but it looks find on photos so i dont mind at all
Every makeup artist has their wn individuality and i wouldnt say i prefer this to that, but i guess each of them is probably good in one particular area.
Every makeup artist has their wn individuality and i wouldnt say i prefer this to that, but i guess each of them is probably good in one particular area.
kittiegothgirl
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i'm not a ma or anything, but i can say without bragging that i'm GOOD at it
and i cant stand it when someone else tries to do my make up...it always ended bad..
my cousin who has a beautyshop did my make up once and it was horrible, i went out to the city in it and as soon i got in on of the locker rooms i wiped half off it off..(since it already was smeared all over my face anyway *BAAAD make up
)
and i also had a few occasions where friends wanted to do my make up :
"ow honey you need to do this and that and it will be better ,let me do it..."
with a tone like i dont know how to put on make up...
i can take advice ,but "colouring" my eyebrows with a ugly brown pencil making them look all bushy while my hair was bleached blonde....??helll no
and to be honest one of the girls that likes to fiddle on my make up well,mostly when she' s wearing make up it doesnt look good at all :s
(remember homer simpsons make up gun he invented?? O-O)
i've been putting on make up since i was six
lol (theater)
and i screwed up allot, but i certainly know what doesnt look good on me know
and i cant stand it when someone else tries to do my make up...it always ended bad..
my cousin who has a beautyshop did my make up once and it was horrible, i went out to the city in it and as soon i got in on of the locker rooms i wiped half off it off..(since it already was smeared all over my face anyway *BAAAD make up
) and i also had a few occasions where friends wanted to do my make up :
"ow honey you need to do this and that and it will be better ,let me do it..."
with a tone like i dont know how to put on make up...
i can take advice ,but "colouring" my eyebrows with a ugly brown pencil making them look all bushy while my hair was bleached blonde....??helll no
and to be honest one of the girls that likes to fiddle on my make up well,mostly when she' s wearing make up it doesnt look good at all :s
(remember homer simpsons make up gun he invented?? O-O)
i've been putting on make up since i was six
and i screwed up allot, but i certainly know what doesnt look good on me know
j_absinthe
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I love getting done up by other MUA's, it's a chance for me to relax and step outside of myself and become a canvas.
I can't really say I've had issues with other MUA's doing shit jobs on me, but all I can say is that if they did something I didn't like, I would simply just ask them to adjust it in a tactful manner. It's their job to make me happy and make me look good, if I don't feel they've done their job properly, I'll tell them.
I can't really say I've had issues with other MUA's doing shit jobs on me, but all I can say is that if they did something I didn't like, I would simply just ask them to adjust it in a tactful manner. It's their job to make me happy and make me look good, if I don't feel they've done their job properly, I'll tell them.
Sikfrmthemirror
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bah. im late on this post but maybe someone will read it haha.
events at mac. I never like to tell an MA that im a make up artist. I dont want them getting cocky with me or looking at me weird so I let them do their job and if I know they will be cool about it ill tell them what I do.
I went to an event once and this freelance artist asked me to sit in his chair and said he would do my eyes.
I am a nc30 my eyebrows are near perfection for me, to my liking atleast.
My eyelashes are a good length to not have to wear lashes all the time, unless im going all out.
I stepped out of his chair with with an orangy, gold, with cranberry( a colour i hate the most) cruddy liner, and straight lashes.
events at mac. I never like to tell an MA that im a make up artist. I dont want them getting cocky with me or looking at me weird so I let them do their job and if I know they will be cool about it ill tell them what I do.
I went to an event once and this freelance artist asked me to sit in his chair and said he would do my eyes.
I am a nc30 my eyebrows are near perfection for me, to my liking atleast.
My eyelashes are a good length to not have to wear lashes all the time, unless im going all out.
I stepped out of his chair with with an orangy, gold, with cranberry( a colour i hate the most) cruddy liner, and straight lashes.
lazytolove
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I'm not going to say this in a negative way. I hope there will be no misunderstood =]. In my opinion, everybody have different tastes. The MA might think it looks good on you but you don't like it. I'm not a MA but i put on makeup for a lot of people, most of them like it and most of them don't. I can do nothing about it.
What would you do if you weren't happy with another MA's quality of work on you?
- I won't do anything about it because i don't want to make the situation worse.
This is just my opinion. I hope nobody will get mad at me. Thanks =]
What would you do if you weren't happy with another MA's quality of work on you?
- I won't do anything about it because i don't want to make the situation worse.
This is just my opinion. I hope nobody will get mad at me. Thanks =]
chocolategoddes
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I'm not an MA but I beleive I have the skill potential to be one. I've had an Urban Decay counter MA not only talk on the phone to her boyfriend (isn't that against some rule) and wear the lowest pants ever, but do a really shitty job at applying eyeshadow. I'm just going to assume that because she had a different eye shape than me, it threw her off. It was blended nicely and the colors weren't so bad, but the shape was horrible for me. Luckily it was free. I'm okay with being the "canvas" and letting an MA do my makeup but I don't want to be dissapointed. If its for a big event, I'll do it myself.
FullWroth
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I just politely tell them what I don't like and why I don't like it, especially if I'm paying them for their time. MAs are just human, and even the best artist can have a bad day or a miss an error, so if it's not 100% super-duper-perfect, that's expected, but you're paying them to do it right, so the margin for error is pretty small, and gets smaller when you're on a time limit for a big event (i.e. on the day of the wedding). There's no need to be rude or attack their skills over it, but I think you should definitely point out what you don't like.
A good artist should always accept constructive criticism; it helps you grow. The burden on the CLIENT is to make sure their criticism IS constructive, and not just "I hate it." or "You must suck at your job if this is the kind of work you do." or whatever nasty or useless comments people make. If the MA still has a hissy fit after that, well, you probably need to find a new MA. But not saying anything at all seems like the wrong course of action, 'cause you're paying for something you aren't happy with and the artist will take those skills onto another job, where their next client might not be so forgiving, and sooner or later, their reputation will be hurt.
A good artist should always accept constructive criticism; it helps you grow. The burden on the CLIENT is to make sure their criticism IS constructive, and not just "I hate it." or "You must suck at your job if this is the kind of work you do." or whatever nasty or useless comments people make. If the MA still has a hissy fit after that, well, you probably need to find a new MA. But not saying anything at all seems like the wrong course of action, 'cause you're paying for something you aren't happy with and the artist will take those skills onto another job, where their next client might not be so forgiving, and sooner or later, their reputation will be hurt.
lara
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If you never offer constructive criticism, they'll never develop and learn.
If you never ask for constructive criticism, you'll never develop and learn.
| Originally Posted by lazytolove
I'm not going to say this in a negative way. I hope there will be no misunderstood =]. In my opinion, everybody have different tastes. The MA might think it looks good on you but you don't like it. I'm not a MA but i put on makeup for a lot of people, most of them like it and most of them don't. I can do nothing about it. What would you do if you weren't happy with another MA's quality of work on you? - I won't do anything about it because i don't want to make the situation worse. This is just my opinion. I hope nobody will get mad at me. Thanks =] |
If you never offer constructive criticism, they'll never develop and learn.
If you never ask for constructive criticism, you'll never develop and learn.
_trimm_trabb
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Oh gosh, I hadn't experienced this until recently. I was going to model for a photo shoot and I told the girl I could do my own makeup. She said "oh no, don't worry about it, there will be a stylist there to do hair and makeup, but you can bring your own makeup just in case." So I bring my kit just in case of an emergency (stylist no-shows, missing product, etc).
Well the stylist showed up with her "kit" in tow so that wasn't a problem, and she did an excellent job on my hair. However, the make-up...oh dear. Her "kit" was a duffel bag full of drugstore products. Well, okay, some drugstore products are not bad, I thought to myself, give the girl a chance. Well she had NO foundation...none! Did she just expect that the models would show up with their own when we were told a stylist would be there? Then she applied the most awful eyeshadow, yellow and orange shimmery shadow from lash line to brow bone and extended all the way out toward the temples. She put falsies on, but NO mascara or eyeliner! FOR A PHOTO SHOOT. That's like wearing an evening gown with sneakers. And obviously, no foundation, since she didn't have any, and acted insulted when I offered to use my kit. Bright pink blush completely unblended, and luckily I was able to stop her before she applied some garish pink wet 'n wild lipstick and insisted that I had a lipstick just like it in my kit and that way she wouldn't have to sanitize hers.
The most frustrating thing was that I had a fully stocked kit not ten feet away, with every colour of RCMA foundation imaginable, MAC eyeshadows, NARS blushes...not only could I have done a better job on my makeup, the other girls would have looked better too.
GAH! What a nightmare. Why do people insist they can do hair AND makeup, if they can't? I don't tell prospective clients that I'll do their hair when I can't. This girl obviously was a hairstylist who decided to stop at the drugstore and pick up some eyeshadows and call herself a makeup artist.
Well the stylist showed up with her "kit" in tow so that wasn't a problem, and she did an excellent job on my hair. However, the make-up...oh dear. Her "kit" was a duffel bag full of drugstore products. Well, okay, some drugstore products are not bad, I thought to myself, give the girl a chance. Well she had NO foundation...none! Did she just expect that the models would show up with their own when we were told a stylist would be there? Then she applied the most awful eyeshadow, yellow and orange shimmery shadow from lash line to brow bone and extended all the way out toward the temples. She put falsies on, but NO mascara or eyeliner! FOR A PHOTO SHOOT. That's like wearing an evening gown with sneakers. And obviously, no foundation, since she didn't have any, and acted insulted when I offered to use my kit. Bright pink blush completely unblended, and luckily I was able to stop her before she applied some garish pink wet 'n wild lipstick and insisted that I had a lipstick just like it in my kit and that way she wouldn't have to sanitize hers.
The most frustrating thing was that I had a fully stocked kit not ten feet away, with every colour of RCMA foundation imaginable, MAC eyeshadows, NARS blushes...not only could I have done a better job on my makeup, the other girls would have looked better too.
GAH! What a nightmare. Why do people insist they can do hair AND makeup, if they can't? I don't tell prospective clients that I'll do their hair when I can't. This girl obviously was a hairstylist who decided to stop at the drugstore and pick up some eyeshadows and call herself a makeup artist.
MakeupMuffin
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I think MAs are highly critical or MAs because more than anybody else we know what looks great on us and how to make ourselves look flawless. So when another MA does an application on you I think it's just the trained eye that spots things. Sometimes they are really bad jobs and other times they are good but they add their own flare or trade mark that we may not be used to. When in doubt get a non-partial second or third opinion.
MakeupMuffin
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Wow, I would love to see a picture of this!!
| Originally Posted by _trimm_trabb
Oh gosh, I hadn't experienced this until recently. I was going to model for a photo shoot and I told the girl I could do my own makeup. She said "oh no, don't worry about it, there will be a stylist there to do hair and makeup, but you can bring your own makeup just in case." So I bring my kit just in case of an emergency (stylist no-shows, missing product, etc). Well the stylist showed up with her "kit" in tow so that wasn't a problem, and she did an excellent job on my hair. However, the make-up...oh dear. Her "kit" was a duffel bag full of drugstore products. Well, okay, some drugstore products are not bad, I thought to myself, give the girl a chance. Well she had NO foundation...none! Did she just expect that the models would show up with their own when we were told a stylist would be there? Then she applied the most awful eyeshadow, yellow and orange shimmery shadow from lash line to brow bone and extended all the way out toward the temples. She put falsies on, but NO mascara or eyeliner! FOR A PHOTO SHOOT. That's like wearing an evening gown with sneakers. And obviously, no foundation, since she didn't have any, and acted insulted when I offered to use my kit. Bright pink blush completely unblended, and luckily I was able to stop her before she applied some garish pink wet 'n wild lipstick and insisted that I had a lipstick just like it in my kit and that way she wouldn't have to sanitize hers. The most frustrating thing was that I had a fully stocked kit not ten feet away, with every colour of RCMA foundation imaginable, MAC eyeshadows, NARS blushes...not only could I have done a better job on my makeup, the other girls would have looked better too. GAH! What a nightmare. Why do people insist they can do hair AND makeup, if they can't? I don't tell prospective clients that I'll do their hair when I can't. This girl obviously was a hairstylist who decided to stop at the drugstore and pick up some eyeshadows and call herself a makeup artist. |
Wow, I would love to see a picture of this!!
BlahWah
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lol, I'm surprised this thread's come back up from the bottom of the pile (fyi I'm the OP). Gosh do I wish we had pictures of these makeover mishaps! _trimm_trabb, yours would've been great to see, especially if it's for a photoshoot! I feel for you and the photographer who'd be blinded from the bright pink blush!
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I appreciate everyone has different styles - I've gone to about 5 MAC makeovers and each of them were with different MA's - but as matron of honour I expected something more than a splotch of dark dirty plum just above my Asian fold, especially with a red dress and especially when my sister wanted fresh looks. There's style and there's... a splotch.
I'm not a MA either but especially after seeing the beautiful fotd's here on Specktra, I've seen a variety of great looks on different eye shapes and skin tones and can tell what is good work and what isn't.
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And that was the sticky part for me! I would've loved to do it for myself but it was my sister's wedding, she'd paid for it and even if I told her she could skip me, there were SIX other girls - it'd look strange if the MoH didn't get done up by the same artist. I was really hoping she'd be done sooner so I could take some off and redo it!
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Which is why I didn't make a huge fuss over it. I mean, she did have 6 bridesmaids to attend to, nevermind the bride herself. I asked for a brighter colour, or at least to blend it out a bit more, but all she said was "It's blended out pretty well already", waved a fluff brush over both lids and declared me made up.
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| Originally Posted by lazytolove
I'm not going to say this in a negative way. I hope there will be no misunderstood =]. In my opinion, everybody have different tastes. The MA might think it looks good on you but you don't like it. I'm not a MA but i put on makeup for a lot of people, most of them like it and most of them don't. I can do nothing about it. |
I appreciate everyone has different styles - I've gone to about 5 MAC makeovers and each of them were with different MA's - but as matron of honour I expected something more than a splotch of dark dirty plum just above my Asian fold, especially with a red dress and especially when my sister wanted fresh looks. There's style and there's... a splotch.
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| Originally Posted by chocolategoddes
I'm okay with being the "canvas" and letting an MA do my makeup but I don't want to be dissapointed. If its for a big event, I'll do it myself. |
And that was the sticky part for me! I would've loved to do it for myself but it was my sister's wedding, she'd paid for it and even if I told her she could skip me, there were SIX other girls - it'd look strange if the MoH didn't get done up by the same artist. I was really hoping she'd be done sooner so I could take some off and redo it!
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| Originally Posted by FullWroth
I just politely tell them what I don't like and why I don't like it, especially if I'm paying them for their time. MAs are just human, and even the best artist can have a bad day or a miss an error, so if it's not 100% super-duper-perfect, that's expected, but you're paying them to do it right, so the margin for error is pretty small, and gets smaller when you're on a time limit for a big event (i.e. on the day of the wedding). There's no need to be rude or attack their skills over it, but I think you should definitely point out what you don't like. |
Which is why I didn't make a huge fuss over it. I mean, she did have 6 bridesmaids to attend to, nevermind the bride herself. I asked for a brighter colour, or at least to blend it out a bit more, but all she said was "It's blended out pretty well already", waved a fluff brush over both lids and declared me made up.
Kalico
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For my prom, I had my make-up done "professionally" at Merle Norman because I'd had my mani and pedi done there. She caked on the mascara... you know, the spider legs thing? It was awful. I like loads of mascara, but not that much. It looked ridiculous. All the colors were just bad. I cringe when I see my prom pics...
Kristal
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one time when i was passing by a too faced counter a makeup artist BEGGED me to let her put makeup on me and since i wasn't in a rush i said ok. AHHHH! the second i looked in the mirror i was in shock at how bad it looked... so i politely said thank you and that i will think about the products she used on me and come back if i decide to get anything. the second she turned around i ran to my favorite mac artist and i was like "ohh for the love of god! please give me a wipe so i can take this off!!" she was laughing at me so hard! and since she felt bad for me, she did my makeup... i love that girl.
