i think that investing in some fluidline is a good idea. for me, nothing else works (except for NYC e/l...and you get a long pencil for only $0.99 but i find myself to reapply that, too) - fluidine DOESN'T BUDGE. because of that, it makes it rather hard to remove it from the waterline, too (unless you're using a good makeup remover like MAC's). if you're looking for an e/l that you don't have to constantly reapply, i highly suggest fluidline. you won't regret it!