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KristyVictoria

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The cost of medications and just the normal monthly expenses does add up. I'm so thankful that my insurance even covered the nuvaring, I was so surprised when the pharmacy told me they did. I just wonder why they didn't cover Yaz?

I seriously CANNOT have a period every month with the nuvaring. It was still painful and a complete bitch when I was using the pill but it would only last for 4 days tops so I could deal with it. But with the nuvaring, I feel like my uterus is being yanked out and I can seriously feel the life being drained out of me. I've even had people who would get so concerned about me during that TOTM and they've even asked me if I was anemic. I'm dreading February...cause its about that time now!

See, that makes absolutely no sense with the Tibolone. If a woman who isn't menopausal take it for PMDD, it shouldn't cause any problems right? Plus I highly doubt that most woman who are 65 and older still have their periods. If that is the case then it's def worth a shot to try out. I swear I think sometimes its men who are behind these drug approvals lol. They dont understand how it feels cause it can't happen to them lol! This kind of reminds me of the Mexoryl issue in the U.S, although I think it might be approved now. I had come across a Lancome sunscreen with it in it as an ingredient. But it was being used for years and years in Europe and it was approved there but just not here for some reason.

Buspar is the devil's work seriously! I had only taken one day's dosage and the next day I woke up with all these little red bumps on my face and upper neck area. And the day after that I just out of nowhere started developing chest pains and it would hurt whenever I would breathe. It went on and off for about a few weeks. Buspar was the only thing new that I had been taking so I know its not the Allegra or Nuvaring (the only 2 medications I am on on a daily basis) doing it. It made my anxiety worse too! I was like so paranoid the day that I was on it too! I thought I was seriously just going crazy. The doctor ended up prescribing me Celexa after that which I haven't even taken because I had specifically told him that I only wanted something for my anxiety (which is my biggest issue right now, thats whats CAUSING my depressed mood in the first place!) and something for ADD cause he thinks that I may have it and I think I have it too (it's causing me even more anxiety cause I just keep freaking out that if I do get a job that I'll get fired from it cause I can't pay attention too well even if I do try). I ended up just canceling my appointment with him that I was suppose to go to on Wednesday. Don't know if I will reschedule or not.


Tibolone as a hormone is primarily a hormone replacement therapy medication and would be marketed mostly as such. It's just recently that it has been used for PMDD (although it is still being used a hormone replacement when treating PMDD - I am induced into chemical menopause, and then I take the tibolone to get the necessary hormones to prevent bone density loss, etc)

Maybe your insurance wouldn't cover Yaz because it is new? My old insurance would never cover all of new medications and they'd be anywhere from $50-75 instead of the usual $30.

Celexa helped me alot with my anxiety actually. You should go to your doctor and discuss it. Maybe you can ask for some xanax or ativan.

I have a friend with terrible ADD and he takes strattera and it works wonders for him. He failed out of college and couldn't keep a job previously and now is doing very well.
 

X4biddenxLustX

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Originally Posted by KristyVictoria
Tibolone as a hormone is primarily a hormone replacement therapy medication and would be marketed mostly as such. It's just recently that it has been used for PMDD (although it is still being used a hormone replacement when treating PMDD - I am induced into chemical menopause, and then I take the tibolone to get the necessary hormones to prevent bone density loss, etc)

Maybe your insurance wouldn't cover Yaz because it is new? My old insurance would never cover all of new medications and they'd be anywhere from $50-75 instead of the usual $30.

Celexa helped me alot with my anxiety actually. You should go to your doctor and discuss it. Maybe you can ask for some xanax or ativan.

I have a friend with terrible ADD and he takes strattera and it works wonders for him. He failed out of college and couldn't keep a job previously and now is doing very well.


My mom is on Prempro cause she has osteoporosis and didn't like taking Boniva or Actenal sp? for it. She had some light spotting and a tiny bit of cramping but other than that no complaints. She just gets annoyed that she has to take it at the exact same time each day, were quite forgetful people so she'll end up taking it later than suppose to a lot of the time. But I didn't know it was possible to chemically induce menopause? I'm glad that the Tibolone is working well for you. They seriously need to find more treatments for things. I mean with all the new technology, it should be put to use.

Well the nuvaring is pretty new also and is a lot more expensive than the Yaz and theres no generic alternative for either one of these medications. So I really don't know why. Maybe there just picky lol. They do cover a lot of other things though with no problem but lately I have been having to call them up or have the pharmacy call them up for me to see if they cover certain things before I attempt to get them filled.

Yeah, my doctor said that the Celexa is also an anti-anxiety medication besides just being an antidepressant. I've had some bad experiences with antidepressants and avoid them like the plague now! I haven't tried anything strong like xanax or ativan, I've only been on different dosages of klonopin in the past. It worked wonderfully along with zoloft the first time. But the second time I took zoloft then later on prozac, I got really bad panic attacks that sent me to the emergency room several times because I just honestly felt like I was dying whenever I had a panic attack. So yeah the klonopin didn't do anything for me the second time. My doctor had told me during our first sessions that he didn't want to put me on anything addicting or strong like klonopin or xanax. I just wish I could somehow get my records released to him so that he can see that the klonopin didn't help at all!

I'm glad that your friend has gotten better. My little cousin use to have bad ADHD and took I think ritalin for it and she's as calm as can be now and is actually quite well behaved and focused. I just really think that an ADD medication would help me alot cause I'm sort of everywhere. I just don't know how to explain all of this to my doctor without sounding like I'm just asking for drugs or whatever. Cause theres just so many people who just go in to just try to get drugs and stuff.
 

KristyVictoria

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My mom is on Prempro cause she has osteoporosis and didn't like taking Boniva or Actenal sp? for it. She had some light spotting and a tiny bit of cramping but other than that no complaints. She just gets annoyed that she has to take it at the exact same time each day, were quite forgetful people so she'll end up taking it later than suppose to a lot of the time. But I didn't know it was possible to chemically induce menopause? I'm glad that the Tibolone is working well for you. They seriously need to find more treatments for things. I mean with all the new technology, it should be put to use.

Well the nuvaring is pretty new also and is a lot more expensive than the Yaz and theres no generic alternative for either one of these medications. So I really don't know why. Maybe there just picky lol. They do cover a lot of other things though with no problem but lately I have been having to call them up or have the pharmacy call them up for me to see if they cover certain things before I attempt to get them filled.

Yeah, my doctor said that the Celexa is also an anti-anxiety medication besides just being an antidepressant. I've had some bad experiences with antidepressants and avoid them like the plague now! I haven't tried anything strong like xanax or ativan, I've only been on different dosages of klonopin in the past. It worked wonderfully along with zoloft the first time. But the second time I took zoloft then later on prozac, I got really bad panic attacks that sent me to the emergency room several times because I just honestly felt like I was dying whenever I had a panic attack. So yeah the klonopin didn't do anything for me the second time. My doctor had told me during our first sessions that he didn't want to put me on anything addicting or strong like klonopin or xanax. I just wish I could somehow get my records released to him so that he can see that the klonopin didn't help at all!

I'm glad that your friend has gotten better. My little cousin use to have bad ADHD and took I think ritalin for it and she's as calm as can be now and is actually quite well behaved and focused. I just really think that an ADD medication would help me alot cause I'm sort of everywhere. I just don't know how to explain all of this to my doctor without sounding like I'm just asking for drugs or whatever. Cause theres just so many people who just go in to just try to get drugs and stuff.


It is possible to induce menopause - the primary drug is called Lupron and stops hormone production, it was developed/is used primarily for treatment of Prostate cancer and endometriosis but also works for other things. Sometimes it is given to suppress menstruation before fertility treatments so that they can time ovulation exactly.

The nuvaring is actually not very new, it's been on the market for over 5 years now whereas Yaz just came out in the past year. Generics can't become available until the patent expires on a medication - which is something like a minimum of 7 years but could be up to 14 I think. I've been taking Effexor XR for over 10 years and no generic exists for that, still.

It's interesting that you think xanax and ativan are strong when they are much less strong than klonopin. Klonopin is something like three times the strength of xanax.

Your doctor should be able to request information from your previous healthcare providers, and also if you can't find a Dr who will listen to you about a serious negative reaction to a medication you might want to try getting a new doctor! If he wants you to revisit a medication that didn't work previously, that might be a different issue, but if you reacted really badly your doctor should take that seriously.

Try writing down some of your thoughts in advance before you go in to sit down. Write down your objective - say, "Reduce symptoms of ADD without increasing anxiety. Consider why treatments in the past failed and try something different." It can be hard to express everything that you need to in the time given nowadays and I find them if I don't clearly define and organize WHY I'm going to the doctor, I can get in there and out without ever actually addressing the reason I went for visit in the first place very easily!
 

X4biddenxLustX

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Originally Posted by KristyVictoria
It is possible to induce menopause - the primary drug is called Lupron and stops hormone production, it was developed/is used primarily for treatment of Prostate cancer and endometriosis but also works for other things. Sometimes it is given to suppress menstruation before fertility treatments so that they can time ovulation exactly.

The nuvaring is actually not very new, it's been on the market for over 5 years now whereas Yaz just came out in the past year. Generics can't become available until the patent expires on a medication - which is something like a minimum of 7 years but could be up to 14 I think. I've been taking Effexor XR for over 10 years and no generic exists for that, still.

It's interesting that you think xanax and ativan are strong when they are much less strong than klonopin. Klonopin is something like three times the strength of xanax.

Your doctor should be able to request information from your previous healthcare providers, and also if you can't find a Dr who will listen to you about a serious negative reaction to a medication you might want to try getting a new doctor! If he wants you to revisit a medication that didn't work previously, that might be a different issue, but if you reacted really badly your doctor should take that seriously.

Try writing down some of your thoughts in advance before you go in to sit down. Write down your objective - say, "Reduce symptoms of ADD without increasing anxiety. Consider why treatments in the past failed and try something different." It can be hard to express everything that you need to in the time given nowadays and I find them if I don't clearly define and organize WHY I'm going to the doctor, I can get in there and out without ever actually addressing the reason I went for visit in the first place very easily!


I had assumed the nuvaring was pretty new cause it's only been recently that I've even seen commercials for it. It didn't even show up at my Planned Parenthood clinic til like two years ago.

The only other medication I take on a reg. basis is Allegra, and I get the generic version of it cause that's what the insurance is willing to pay for. I'm glad that I don't use any other non-generic medications that my insurance won't pay for-it's so expensive to pay for out of pocket!

I've had friends who have taken or are still taking klonopin for anxiety also and they always say that it's really strong, although it never does anything for me. No clue why? It's as if I didn't taken anything at all in the first place! Most of them have also tried Xanax and always emphasize to me how stronger it is compared to klonopin and how they prefered it over klonopin also. The doctor I seen actually made it sound that way too, Idk? He sucks terribly at explaining meds to me. Like when he prescribed Celexa I had asked for more information on it. And all he said was oh it's medication that'll treat both anxiety and depression, now bye bye!
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I just want something that'll help with the what ifs that keep popping up in my head.

I've thought about seeing another doctor, cause this one just seems to want to prescribe me something for every problem I have but the ones that are really bugging me. But the thing is that I dont drive and I've checked all the other doctor's offices and they don't accept my insurance. I can't afford to pay out of pocket for visits. I'm actually hoping that with therapy I can handle things on my own. The only reason why I even reconsidered taking medication again was cause whenever I'd talk to someone, they'd always say well why don't you consider going to see a doctor and taking some medication?

Thanks for the idea. I often get nervous and unfocused during visits to see him, I need to start listing my bigger problems down next time I see or if I even see him again. I want to be more firm about what I want for treatment, but I just don't want to sound like I'm some kind of junky trying to get drugs. I got the feeling during my first visit that he might think that for some reason (I'm def not though!) and its just really interfering with my treatment.
 

KristyVictoria

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Originally Posted by X4biddenxLustX
I had assumed the nuvaring was pretty new cause it's only been recently that I've even seen commercials for it. It didn't even show up at my Planned Parenthood clinic til like two years ago.

The only other medication I take on a reg. basis is Allegra, and I get the generic version of it cause that's what the insurance is willing to pay for. I'm glad that I don't use any other non-generic medications that my insurance won't pay for-it's so expensive to pay for out of pocket!

I've had friends who have taken or are still taking klonopin for anxiety also and they always say that it's really strong, although it never does anything for me. No clue why? It's as if I didn't taken anything at all in the first place! Most of them have also tried Xanax and always emphasize to me how stronger it is compared to klonopin and how they prefered it over klonopin also. The doctor I seen actually made it sound that way too, Idk? He sucks terribly at explaining meds to me. Like when he prescribed Celexa I had asked for more information on it. And all he said was oh it's medication that'll treat both anxiety and depression, now bye bye!
angry.gif
I just want something that'll help with the what ifs that keep popping up in my head.

I've thought about seeing another doctor, cause this one just seems to want to prescribe me something for every problem I have but the ones that are really bugging me. But the thing is that I dont drive and I've checked all the other doctor's offices and they don't accept my insurance. I can't afford to pay out of pocket for visits. I'm actually hoping that with therapy I can handle things on my own. The only reason why I even reconsidered taking medication again was cause whenever I'd talk to someone, they'd always say well why don't you consider going to see a doctor and taking some medication?

Thanks for the idea. I often get nervous and unfocused during visits to see him, I need to start listing my bigger problems down next time I see or if I even see him again. I want to be more firm about what I want for treatment, but I just don't want to sound like I'm some kind of junky trying to get drugs. I got the feeling during my first visit that he might think that for some reason (I'm def not though!) and its just really interfering with my treatment.


The nuvaring came out in 2001, making it even older than I thought it was - 8 years. I think it didn't get much publicity at first because they were expecting it to get alot of attention due to the unusual delivery method. I guess it didn't quite work out that way.

I think an important thing to recognize is that because you are having anxiety you might be projecting your fears of being perceived as a drug-seeking individual onto your experience. Your doctor may not actually see you this way at all.

When you go back, I think you should definitely express two things to him:
1) You feel that the problems you are having which are interfering with your life are not being addressed - 2) you feel that this might be partially due to being perceived as a drug seeking individual and also partially because you are having extreme anxiety about taking the medication in the first place.

I think it's important to tell him you're afraid he sees you as a drug seeker so that he can (hopefully) recognize the degree of anxiety you are experiencing, and see that you are even anxious about getting treatment for the anxiety itself!
 

X4biddenxLustX

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Originally Posted by KristyVictoria
The nuvaring came out in 2001, making it even older than I thought it was - 8 years. I think it didn't get much publicity at first because they were expecting it to get alot of attention due to the unusual delivery method. I guess it didn't quite work out that way.

I think an important thing to recognize is that because you are having anxiety you might be projecting your fears of being perceived as a drug-seeking individual onto your experience. Your doctor may not actually see you this way at all.

When you go back, I think you should definitely express two things to him:
1) You feel that the problems you are having which are interfering with your life are not being addressed - 2) you feel that this might be partially due to being perceived as a drug seeking individual and also partially because you are having extreme anxiety about taking the medication in the first place.

I think it's important to tell him you're afraid he sees you as a drug seeker so that he can (hopefully) recognize the degree of anxiety you are experiencing, and see that you are even anxious about getting treatment for the anxiety itself!


I didn't even realize that. I'm just the type of person who gets really nervous going into any medical building or seeing any kind of doctor. I've told my therapist about this fear that I have which has prevented me from getting blood work or even seeing a dentist in like 4 years. During my last dentist visits I had to run off to the bathroom before they started doing anything with my teeth and I bawled my eyes out. When I came out, they (the dental staff) all gave me this weird look as if I was crazy. I'm quite the hypochondriac too, which doesn't help me much either. I think I might have my therapist who works in the same office as the doctor talk to him or something. Cause for some reason I'm so much more comfortable talking to my therapist than my doctor, maybe it has something to do with the therapist being a female and the doctor being a male?
 
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