Black Man, or White Female

[Hawkeye]

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Originally Posted by GreekChick Man, Oprah should really run for president.

That would totally kick ass.



It's just sometimes you gotta look at the people of this country. It's not hard to realize that many people in this country are very ill educated about the politics, fiances, economics, and legislation of this country. It's boring. Nobody cares. And people really do base things on looks. Most people on here will say- It doesn't matter but the bottom line is- even though a lot of people say it doesn't matter-there comes a point when looks do matter, especially when it involves Washington.

Everything there- is still conservative. You don't see women walking around with makeup different then the usual browns and berry lips. You don't see hair that is styled outrageously. You don't even see suits that are pink. Even with the men- you don't see long hair etc.

So even though the ideals are very strong there is still a very strong underlying effect with looks alone.

That is what scares me. People vote on 3 things: Looks, Personality and name recognition. That is the majority of the American population and thats IF they bother to vote at all.

Yeah I'm just waiting this is going to be one hell of an election in 2008.

 

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by youbeabitch You don't see hair that is styled outrageously.

Haha... We need a "Legally blonde" president... That would be so great.

 

[Another Janice!]

I can't stand Mrs. Clinton. I didn't agree with most of her husband's politics....but I liked the guy. He was a likeable person. She is not.

Mr. Obama is off to a good start, but maybe a run in 2012 would be better for him. Let him get some experience and let people feel him out.

I don't care either way. But the person has to be who I feel will run my country the best. For years and years (even before I could vote), I was a Republican. Mostly because my family is. But now, I am Independent. And its liberating (little pun intended).

I really like Edwards. He was on the Tonight Show a couple weeks ago. What he said made me clap. "Hear the voices of the people and use the power of the government to make it happen."

Personally, I want Giuliani in office. But that is a whole other thread.

 

[sharyn]

Our Bundeskanzler is a woman, Angela Merkel. It's not like I get up every morning singing Thank you lord for making a woman our Bundeskanzler but I do think it's cool to see not only men when you switch on the TV and watch the 8 o'clock news.

Go Angie!

 

[prinzessin784]

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Originally Posted by Another Janice! Personally, I want Giuliani in office. But that is a whole other thread.

I agree, but I have to hear more about his stance on the issues first. As of now if we had to vote I'd vote for him though.

 

[aloyisus]

I'm actually pretty shocked that most here seem to actually see it this way. Voting on the basis of race or gender is total bullshit; voting on merit is the only way to go.


It's pretty odd, obviously the majority of the Democratic field is pretty liberal, except for maybe Lieberman, but even most of the Republican candidates aren't exactly conservative: McCain, Giuliani, etc.

I personally like Mitt Romney. Despite most universal healthcare approaches being horrible ideas in practice, his plan seems to make some sense.

 

[Beauty Mark]

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I'm actually pretty shocked that most here seem to actually see it this way. Voting on the basis of race or gender is total bullshit; voting on merit is the only way to go.

If I'm reading that correctly, I think you're misinterpreting what people are writing. Most people here do vote on the issues, stances, and past achievements/failure.

We're commenting how other people vote. A lot of other people look at bs reasons to vote for someone or not to vote for someone.

 

[Larkin]

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Originally Posted by prinzessin784 It doesn't matter to me, but I think for a lot of uneducated voters is does matter, unfortunately. I'm more inclined to vote on party lines before voting for someone just because he or she is black or white or a man or a woman. I'm going to vote for my beliefs first!

Who exactly do you consider to be "uneducated voters"?

With or without an "education" you still can be racist & sexist! Example,look at how some white people at universities across America chose to "celebrate" MLK Jr Day.http://www.thephink.com/thethink/200...ther-king-day/http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...25071mlk1.html

I think America is ready for anything new. It doesn't mean they will win, however. Democrat,Republican,Independat it doesn't matter to me. I just think it will be cool to have someone crash those barriers.

 

[Raerae]

nm nm nm

 

[caffn8me]

...and I thought this thread was about Michael Jackson. Imagine my disappointment

 

[macslut]

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Originally Posted by Larkin Who exactly do you consider to be "uneducated voters"? With or without an "education" you still can be racist & sexist! Example,look at how some white people at universities across America chose to "celebrate" MLK Jr Day.http://www.thephink.com/thethink/200...ther-king-day/http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...07/0125071mlk1..

Remember, that this is not all college students. And just because someone is all for "racial diversity" doesn't mean they are not racist and/or sexist. Trust me, some of the most narrow minded racist sexist individuals call themselves openminded progressives. At least at the university level. In fact, several people from my undergrad come to mind (currently a grad student and can think of someone I met on my first day)

 

[Beauty Mark]

College/university or even doctorates do not mean a voter is going to be educated on the issues (for all intensive purposes, they are considered "educated," but being an MD doesn't mean you know much about politics.) For me to consider some educated on voting issues, they look at all the parties and make a decision as to whom they like best based upon the platforms and past record.

Of course, you can be educated on the politics and make the decision on something trivial, but I'd say that's stupid, unless you believe all candidates are 100% equally bad/good

 

[Hawkeye]

Educated decisions are any decision that you can make on a subject after hearing all of the sides and having the best interest of the country, yourself, or your family in mind.

 

[Hawkeye]

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Originally Posted by caffn8me ...and I thought this thread was about Michael Jackson. Imagine my disappointment

Silly caffn8me

 

[*Stargazer*]

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark College/university or even doctorates do not mean a voter is going to be educated on the issues (for all intensive purposes, they are considered "educated," but being an MD doesn't mean you know much about politics.) For me to consider some educated on voting issues, they look at all the parties and make a decision as to whom they like best based upon the platforms and past record.

Beauty Mark has it exactly right. Generally when someone is labeled an uneducated voter, it has nothing to do with their level of formal education but their level of familiarity with the issues that are being voted for or against.

 

[Larkin]

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Originally Posted by Ladybug10678 Beauty Mark has it exactly right. Generally when someone is labeled an uneducated voter, it has nothing to do with their level of formal education but their level of familiarity with the issues that are being voted for or against.

I understand your comments on uneducated votes. It isn't what I am talking about though. The poster answered a question about race and gender bias by stating " ....I think for a lot of uneducated voters is does matter...". That's why I posed the question to her. I'm curious to find out who?

 

[Beauty Mark]

In retrospect, I think I should've also included a category of "stupid" voters. People who do know that a candidate has a platform and history with which they don't agree (and will readily admit what they don't agree on), yet will vote for a superficial reason.

For example, people in my hometown who vote for the rep because he's from my town, not because they agree with his politics.

 

[macslut]

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark In retrospect, I think I should've also included a category of "stupid" voters. People who do know that a candidate has a platform and history with which they don't agree (and will readily admit what they don't agree on), yet will vote for a superficial reason. For example, people in my hometown who vote for the rep because he's from my town, not because they agree with his politics.

We have people who vote the same party around here...why? Because their family does. They don't even know what said party stands for.

 

[Macnarsandlove]

if they dont have my best interest it really doent matter who messes up the us even more.