Crime & Punishment - 20 "boys", 1 "man", and an 11 year old girl...

[Shimmer]

the article is here


In what world is this a good idea?

What punishment would you want carried out for the guilty parties?

 

[Hawkeye]

all of them should be tried as adults.
and quite frankly i have no sympathy for people like that. Fry em is what i say.

 

[caffn8me]

That is absolutely horrific

It's not something that should happen in a civilized society. We have to punish according to the rule of law though precisely because we are a civilized society. That rules out many of the punishments I'm sure many would wish the participants to endure. Sorry folks, lynching is off the menu.

In judicial terms I'm not sure what the penalties are but I hope that the accused are tried as adults and given the maximum terms possible. It's rubbish for the 16 year old girl who seems to be the ringleader to say she doesn't know who the boys are other than their nicknames. They were in her house, she knew who they were. I feel she should receive a greater penalty if she fails to reveal their identities to prosecutors.

All very sad.

 

[*Stargazer*]

Every single one of them should go to jail for the rest of their natural lives.

 

[MxAxC-_ATTACK]

wow....

 

[Juneplum]

i know. when i read that on yahoo this mornng it made me SICK

 

[*Stargazer*]

Quote:

Originally Posted by caffn8me We have to punish according to the rule of law though precisely because we are a civilized society. That rules out many of the punishments I'm sure many would wish the participants to endure. Sorry folks, lynching is off the menu.

I don't mean to sound callous or unfeeling, but it appears that karma may have exacted its own punishment on the perps...


Quote:

MILWAUKEE (AP) - An 11-year-old girl who allegedly had sex with as many as 20 people as a 16-year-old girl watched and coached her has had HIV since birth, an alderman who met with the family said Friday. Alderman Mike McGee Jr. told The Associated Press that he met with the girl Thursday and described her as distraught. "You can't expect her to be doing well," he said Friday. McGee said the girl feels like she was misled by the 16-year-old. "She now is trying to sort out who to trust and who not to," he said. Her mother died of AIDS and the girl lives with family members, he said.

I didn't quote the rest of the article because its just more info about the crime and the various indictments and such, mainly stuff from the other article.

 

[Beauty Mark]

This may be a stupid way to put, but if the teenagers were not aware of her age or lied to about her age, I wouldn't charge them. It's sad and disgusting what they did, but if they were told she was of consenting age, I'd cut them some slack.

The uncle and the 16 year old should get the harshest punishment.

 

[Shimmer]

are you serious?
I mean, really serious?


There isn't an 11 year old I have EVER encountered that remotely resembles consenting age...I don't care HOW drunk you are.
Yes, some 11 year olds hit puberty earlier than other girls, but that definitely doesn't make them appear to be AOC, even if the AOC is sixteen...

 

[Beauty Mark]

I've met some 11 year olds who've passed at being older than 11. They've gotten away with being guessed as old as 14-15. If she has height working for her (one of my friends was supermodel height and filling out at 11), she could definitely pass as older. Conversely, people who are 15-16 have passed as 11 or 12 (I was one of those people, as were several friends; we're short and Asian, so we could pass as a huge range of ages), so if they were told she's that old, they may not have questioned it.

I know that's not AOC, but it isn't always illegal if they're close in age, like two years apart.

 

[Shimmer]

yes it is!!! I don't know where you live but legal AOC is exactly that, and if her parents are smart they'll push it.

 

[giz2000]

I don't care what age the teens were, NO ONE is stupid enough to believe that the 11 y/o could consent to sex...all of them should be locked up.

 

[Raerae]

I saw that article... Grossed me out.

More importantly, why did this 11 year old think it was a good idea, regardless of who was coaching her think that hooking up with 20+ guys was something she should be doing?

It just doesn't make sense to me. If my "friend" asked me if I wanted to give head, etc to 20+ guys, i'd look at her like she is crazy. Were talking 11 years of age, your not totally stupid at that age to think that doing something like that was a normal regular thing for a 11 year old to be doing.

And what about the guys? ugh... I swear men are really screwed up. Even if they were all minors, what are you doing participating in a gangrape (thats what it is) of an 11 year old. How did this come across as a good idea to anyone involved.

Ugh... Stuff like this makes me nauseous. Are people really that screwed up when they dont think anything is going to happen?

 

[Shimmer]

Dear, I didn't even know what a blowjob WAS at 11 years of age, much less anything else.

 

[Raerae]

Thats what i'm saying... I just dont understand how this happened.

11 is what? 6th grade? I remember seeing a few of the "older looking" kids making out during recess and thinking it was gross. *sigh* lol...

Edit: thinking back, I didn't even have a boyfriend until I was like 14, and I dont even think it would qualify as a boyfriend. He asked me out by sending me a note during class that had, "Will you go out with me?" written on it. And we kinda hung out at lunch and recess, and would go over to each others houses sometimes, and would talk on the phone. We never even kissed. I think it lasted all over a few months.

I do remember pressure from some of my friends though about it. Especially about kissing. Asking me why we hadn't kissed yet, and why are we even going out if were not kissing etc. Thats probably ultimateley what ruined a lot of it, peer pressure to do things at their pace, not our own.

A first kiss is a big deal... I kiss guys I've barely known for an hour in bars and clubs now that I'm older. But back then, it was a big deal.

 

[Shimmer]

with enough 'adult' type figures egging it on I can see how/why she did it. :/

 

[Raerae]

i guess...

It just seems so odd to me that her little internal alarm that reminds you when your in messed up situations wouldn't be ringing when your in a room with 21 naked guys.

 

[Shimmer]

A LOT of the kids these days don't HAVE that alarm. :/

 

[Raerae]

ummm...

I blame the internet!

 

[kimmy]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shimmer Dear, I didn't even know what a blowjob WAS at 11 years of age, much less anything else.

neither did i, and i spent alot of time with guys that were older than me. luckily, they were normal and knew that at my age, i shouldn't be subjected to that kind of shit nor should i have known about it.

i say for the dudes, neuter 'em. without balls, they won't have much a drive to do sick things like that anymore, right? i know that sounds harsh...but i don't take sex abuse lightly, and i think it should be punished with extreme measures. if they knew they'd lose their nuts, they probably wouldn't have done it, and if they were still stupid enough to do it, it's okay because we don't need them diluting the gene pool anyway.