I went to a great Indian salon a couple months ago and the woman did such an excellent job. It definitely took longer (and therefore felt more painful to me than waxing) but the redness dissipated faster than with waxing, there were no ingrowns, and I liked the look better. However, the salon is about 25 minutes from me (and is the only one in my area!). So I watched those two video tuts and gave it a try myself. I am ecstatic with the results! Much less painful doing it myself, the redness was gone within an HOUR, and I'm even more excited that I will never have to go to a salon again!