Eyes before Foundation...

[NaturalSister19]

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Originally Posted by TheManda There's so much more to make up then eye make up. I think a well done complexion is more impressive than an intricate eye..imo As far as retail cosmetics go...it's not hard to sell someone on eye shadow or eyeliner...I think it's important to stress good skin prep and the right tools for a completion. You have to look at the big picture...like MartyGreene said everything has to blend and look good in the big picture...If you can do that with eyes first good, but it seems easier if you do face first...just my two cents

Here, here!!!

 

[Kiseki]

I never did eyes before foundation. When I was in class, my teacher would kill us if we dared, this is the order we were taught:

Moisturize/Hydrate
Color correction and concealing
Foundation
(if need, specially around the eye area for people with very dark circles, we would add a little bit of concealer if necessary)
Powder
Eyes
Lashes
Brows
Contour (if necessary)
Cheeks
Lips

We would use powder to protect the under eye area in the beginning, but later on (unless we were doing something that involved Star Powder in black per example) she would discourage us from doing so, specially if working with mature skin.

@Marty - I love "in my kit", he loves MUFE stuff as much as I do, it's refreshing since in Portugal, some of my options are limited. Thanks for posting the link, I lost it and forgot the name.

 

[Kuuipo]

I don't have shadow fallout. I do foundation first,press in powder,apply exta poder under my eyes and cheek bones. I use foundation on my lids as well as a base. I always tap my brush,so no excess is anywhere. After my eyes, I buff off the excess loose powder and do my cheeks. If you do eyes first,its difficult to put foundation around the orbital area.
There is a reason it's called foundation. You build on it.

 

[miinx]

if i am doing a full face start to finish, then i always do eyes after foundation. i think the finished product looks far better. One thing I've noticed I've become far better at as I become more experienced is breaking the habit of wanting to pick up a ton of shadow on my brush, which in turns results in alot of fallout. Start out with a very light touch and add more as you need it, and fallout wont be so much of an issue. However, if I'm doing a demo at the counter with an indecisive person who may or may not like what I'm doing, I do eyes first, simply because when you have a line of customers milling around the counter, there isnt the time to redo foundation 5 times for every tiny change to the eyes they decide they want.

 

[MelodyKat]

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Originally Posted by lara If you need to do the eyes first because of fall-out or other product drifting, you need to seriously look at your technique. I can agree with doing the eyes first if you're doing something particularly intricate that may require several stop-starts, but beyond that, nope. (for me it's foundation and concealing, eyebrows, eye design, lipstick, cheeks.)

OUCH....thats a bit harsh. For me it depends on what i am doing. For beauty looks Ill do skin first..because that is what the focus is. If I am in a time crunch or doing something uber dramatic i will do the eyes first.

It has nothing to do with technique....just what works for the individual.

 

[mochabean]

I too usually do the eyes first, then my face, cheeks, eyebrows, lips last. The only reason I do my eyes first is b/c it takes me the longest to do my eyes. So I tend to focus on whatever takes me the longest first, then move on to the next quickest thing. I do occasionally have fallout but only when I use pigments dry. Eyeshadows I don't have a problem with.

But of course it all depends on what I want to focus on. If I don't really want to do eye makeup, I"ll focus on my face and do that first. Or if I want a dramatic eye then I'll do that first before my face. I think its just a preference really.

 

[ThaHigher]

Yeah...you know what...
I figure it's an art, not a science...
looks change, style changes......
I figure whatever works to give you the desired effect is what's right.

 

[hawaiian_mele]

I personally do my face before the eyes, mostly out of habit, but as an artist, I'll ask the client what they're most comfortable with. If they don't know I'll talk to them about their options so they can make their own informed decision. While it's my personal belief that eyes should normally (not always) come second it's entirely up to the individual, providing that they are happy with the results, what's the problem?

 

[baby_love]

I used to put foundation on last, but then I noticed that the eyeshadow and the foundation didn't 'meet' and it made for an awkward look. Instead, I use my concealer around my eyes first. I usually do my eyes after I do foundation, but before I do blush. not all the time though, when I use dark pigments or eyeshadows (bottle green, dark soul...) I usually do my eyes first because those do fall down a lot. I think it's unfair to say that if you have fallout, you need to look at your technique. it happens.

 

[GlamYOURUs]

I'v never done up my eyes first. Its always been a habit to do my face first because I feel like I have a base, a canvas to start fresh on. And plus, foundation does help set your makeup so why not right? I could never do my eyes w/o doing my face first. I feel like something is missing, its incomplete. You could always clean up any mess or fall out from an e/s with a towelette or powder. I don't see why some people emphasize it too much.

 

[productjunkie]

I used to do all of my demos with foundation first and eyes later. I hated it. In a world full of woman demanding "smokey eyes" it was becoming a huge mess at the end. I would do concealer and foundation and add some powder... do the eyes and then I would be covering up the under eye with even more concealer. Who wants to wear that much concealer?
I have mastered the art of doing eyes first and blending foundation in. Piece of cake.
Who cares what the person who posted before does first... honestly.
If they can make it work, then kudos to them.
i have never had a customer complain about doing eyes first, I always get rave reviews after a demo.

 

[shabdebaz]

In our product specialist meeting yesterday, one of the senior artists happened to be in the building, so she was asked to do a runway makeup trend demo for us. The look she did had HEAVY eye makeup, so she did eyes first, foundation later.

 

[Debbie]

I like doing my foundation/powder first. I just feel like my movement is a lot more natural as I'm not trying to dodge the eye area (I use Bare Escentuals, so with all the circular motions, it just isn't practical to do eyes first).

If I find that I'm using loose shadows and/or dark ones...I do this retarded thing where I wear a bandana across my face right below the eyes...that or I drape saran wrap over that dangerous zone, fastening it with tape on my temples.

I know it's sooo soo lame but I do whatever takes not to lose the 1 hour of intricate eye makeup.

 

[saspearia]

I tend to do liquid foundation first, then eyes, then powder (and sweep away mess) then mascara - as I found I was always smudging if I did powder after mascara

 

[spencerkaitlin]

I do eyes first. But in all honesty, just do what works for you. If that's face before eyes, go for it.

 

[izonegirl]

I have noticed that has my technique has gotten better I have virtually no fallout. I do know that milady (for cosmos and estos) requires eyes after foundation, but I dont think it matters much

 

[LC]

eyes first...i couldnt do it any other way. work SMART not HARD, as they taught us in mac.

 

[User67]

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Originally Posted by LC eyes first...i couldnt do it any other way. work SMART not HARD, as they taught us in mac.

We just found out at our last meeting that we are no longer allowed to do it that way. They want us to perfect the skin first & then do the eyes. The only exception is if we are doing someone super dark & dramatic where you just know there will probably be a lot of fall out. It's been a little hard adjusting because we were all so used to doing it the other way. But, it's not too bad.

 

[mommys-makeup]

Somebody on here mentioned that people who do very sloppy work would most likely do eyes first or something to that afect but I don't think that's true, actually I saw Jerseylicious the other day (yes guilty, sorry lol!!) and the mua Alexa was doing a smoky eye (does she do anything else!!! gotta love her!!) and the model had black cheeks literally, but the end results were beautiful, I think it's just easier to go crazy blending all that black eyeshadow and knowing its gonna all get wiped right off with no worry, and also it may be an easier method for mua who are doing runway and have to work superfast.

 

[Chrystia]

I always do the focus area first. If my client comes in for foundation foremost, but is interested in eyes too then I start with her immediate need for foundation then i do eyes. If they are looking for an eye look then I start with eyes.