Hair care products for WOC...
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JamaicanDiva2
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HUGE SECOND!!! i am EXTREMELY confused as to what the issue w/ her saying that her daughters are Jamaican & Hispanic is. . . why should she have said her daughters were "brown-skinned?!?!" half the world is "brown-skinned! (I'm generalizing, here!) "Brown-skinned" can describe anyone from Asians to Latinos to Africans to Caribbeans etc. . . I believe she was correct in identifying her daughter's specific ethnicities rather than just generalizing them as "brown-skinned" or "mixed." Because mixed children's hair is EXTREMELY varied, but by identifying her daughter's ethnicities, there is a better chance that someone here would have similar hair & be able to identify & help.
I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just trying to understand the confusion. . .
I myself am mixed, Jamaican & Caucasian (50/50) & this is how I ALWAYS identify myself. I would never refer to myself or my siblings as simply "brown-skinned. . . "that is not a race or an ethnicity either. . . "mixed, biracial, or multiracial" is as far as I will generalize, but there again, these terms are so broad that I usually specify exactly what I am.
Just my personal thoughts & opinions. . . feel free to disagree, but as a "mixed" woman, I feel that I have at least some experience on this issue/ topic.
Originally Posted by couturesista
Do you think she should have said mixed origin? Would she have been able to say Jamaican and Hispanic?
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HUGE SECOND!!! i am EXTREMELY confused as to what the issue w/ her saying that her daughters are Jamaican & Hispanic is. . . why should she have said her daughters were "brown-skinned?!?!" half the world is "brown-skinned! (I'm generalizing, here!) "Brown-skinned" can describe anyone from Asians to Latinos to Africans to Caribbeans etc. . . I believe she was correct in identifying her daughter's specific ethnicities rather than just generalizing them as "brown-skinned" or "mixed." Because mixed children's hair is EXTREMELY varied, but by identifying her daughter's ethnicities, there is a better chance that someone here would have similar hair & be able to identify & help.
I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just trying to understand the confusion. . .
I myself am mixed, Jamaican & Caucasian (50/50) & this is how I ALWAYS identify myself. I would never refer to myself or my siblings as simply "brown-skinned. . . "that is not a race or an ethnicity either. . . "mixed, biracial, or multiracial" is as far as I will generalize, but there again, these terms are so broad that I usually specify exactly what I am.
Just my personal thoughts & opinions. . . feel free to disagree, but as a "mixed" woman, I feel that I have at least some experience on this issue/ topic.
JamaicanDiva2
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As for hair products i use. . . well i haven't found my HG products yet - I am constantly searching for something to quench my super dry, bushy, kinky hair! lol
I do like Cream of Nature shampoos & Suave conditioners. . . I have tried everything from Carol's Daughter to Nexxus to Lush to Curls products to name a few. . . the problem i've had w/ most higher end products is the fact that I have SO MUCH hair that I have to use about HALF the bottle every day just to condition! & being on a college student's budget, I can't very well afford to pay $20 on a conditioner that is gonna last me a couple of days max! Suave & VO5 conditioners actually work better than most of the HE ones i've tried. . .
and Carol's Daughters products that I've tried did NOTHING for my hair. . . the Tui detangling leave-in left it crispy & the Tui butter is too heavy even for my thick hair. . . but I have heard good things about the Hair Milk, so I think I'll try that next!
I do like Cream of Nature shampoos & Suave conditioners. . . I have tried everything from Carol's Daughter to Nexxus to Lush to Curls products to name a few. . . the problem i've had w/ most higher end products is the fact that I have SO MUCH hair that I have to use about HALF the bottle every day just to condition! & being on a college student's budget, I can't very well afford to pay $20 on a conditioner that is gonna last me a couple of days max! Suave & VO5 conditioners actually work better than most of the HE ones i've tried. . .
and Carol's Daughters products that I've tried did NOTHING for my hair. . . the Tui detangling leave-in left it crispy & the Tui butter is too heavy even for my thick hair. . . but I have heard good things about the Hair Milk, so I think I'll try that next!
User67
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I totally agree with you. I don't understand what the issue was/is either. I'm also a "mixed" woman (black, irish, cherokee) & when describing my race that is what I say. Brown skinned could be so many different races. I would really like to know why she had a problem with her describing her daughter the way she did.
| Originally Posted by JamaicanDiva2
HUGE SECOND!!! i am EXTREMELY confused as to what the issue w/ her saying that her daughters are Jamaican & Hispanic is. . . why should she have said her daughters were "brown-skinned?!?!" half the world is "brown-skinned! (I'm generalizing, here!) "Brown-skinned" can describe anyone from Asians to Latinos to Africans to Caribbeans etc. . . I believe she was correct in identifying her daughter's specific ethnicities rather than just generalizing them as "brown-skinned" or "mixed." Because mixed children's hair is EXTREMELY varied, but by identifying her daughter's ethnicities, there is a better chance that someone here would have similar hair & be able to identify & help. I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just trying to understand the confusion. . . I myself am mixed, Jamaican & Caucasian (50/50) & this is how I ALWAYS identify myself. I would never refer to myself or my siblings as simply "brown-skinned. . . "that is not a race or an ethnicity either. . . "mixed, biracial, or multiracial" is as far as I will generalize, but there again, these terms are so broad that I usually specify exactly what I am. Just my personal thoughts & opinions. . . feel free to disagree, but as a "mixed" woman, I feel that I have at least some experience on this issue/ topic.
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I totally agree with you. I don't understand what the issue was/is either. I'm also a "mixed" woman (black, irish, cherokee) & when describing my race that is what I say. Brown skinned could be so many different races. I would really like to know why she had a problem with her describing her daughter the way she did.
dominichulinda
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ok I'm have natural hair (which means no chemicals added)...heres just a tiny section of the back of my head *my hair gets extremely BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, but its tiny bit damped *air drying*):
any products that works for my coily/kinky hairtype is anything with a cream consistency to tame my curl patterns (I perfer organic products, but you know how that goes).
with no product in it ..this is how it drys..so frizzy and shrinks!!:
massive shrinkage
I'm on a forum that helps with hairtyping(your hair pattern) and how to take care of your hair etc.
similar hair to her ..her hair bigness is my inspiration lol:
any products that works for my coily/kinky hairtype is anything with a cream consistency to tame my curl patterns (I perfer organic products, but you know how that goes).
with no product in it ..this is how it drys..so frizzy and shrinks!!:
massive shrinkage
I'm on a forum that helps with hairtyping(your hair pattern) and how to take care of your hair etc.
similar hair to her ..her hair bigness is my inspiration lol:
HeavenLeiBlu
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I rushed in here all eager to help, then realized I don't know jack about relaxed hair
JaneHorror
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I use Motions(you can get it at Walmart or beauty supply stores) hair products and Redken
Tresemme made my hair feel like straw, and it felt so dry.
Tresemme made my hair feel like straw, and it felt so dry.
ShugAvery2001
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I think the reason sister girl pointed this out is because of the fact "Jamaican" isn't a race.. We're supposed to "assume" I guess that when you say "Jamaican" it automatically means black. But there are many races of jamaicans. Indians, Chinese, Whites.....
Just like there are many races of most nationalities
For instance
YouTube - [F] IM REALLY JAMAICAN
OR
YouTube - The Melting Pot of Jamaica!! (Row like a boat!)
| Originally Posted by aziajs
That is an awesome point. I never understand why people make such an issue by nationality references. |
I think the reason sister girl pointed this out is because of the fact "Jamaican" isn't a race.. We're supposed to "assume" I guess that when you say "Jamaican" it automatically means black. But there are many races of jamaicans. Indians, Chinese, Whites.....
Just like there are many races of most nationalities
For instance
YouTube - [F] IM REALLY JAMAICAN
OR
YouTube - The Melting Pot of Jamaica!! (Row like a boat!)
nursee81
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Well the reason I said jamaican was really because her father family is mixed with so many races that I really don't know where to start. He's got black, indian, white, spanish and god knows what else. He's family comes in all different colors of the rainbow with many different hair textures. So I had said Jamaican knowing that there are many Jamaicans that are multi races and maybe some one would have some good suggestions.
I really don't know what the big deal was.
I really don't know what the big deal was.
ShugAvery2001
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i don't think anyone was offended probably confused though.....
Most americans don't know much about the racial make-up of places outside the U.S. so when you said mixed that threw a few people for a loop...
no harm no foul
YouTube - Jamaican Paleface by Tony Hendriks
Most americans don't know much about the racial make-up of places outside the U.S. so when you said mixed that threw a few people for a loop...
no harm no foul
YouTube - Jamaican Paleface by Tony Hendriks
MAChostage
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Just to chime in, my hair is also not relaxed, but I very much dislike the Carol's Daughter line. Same goes for Miss Jessie's. For me (and a lot of other ladies I know with natural hair), finding products that I like and that work for my specific needs (i.e. moisturizing) is truly an ongoing journey.
| Originally Posted by TISH1127
^^ My hair is not relaxed...Maybe thats why I like it
I have only tried a couple of her products (Shampoo & conditioner)...expensive and always out of stock everytime I try to find them. |
Just to chime in, my hair is also not relaxed, but I very much dislike the Carol's Daughter line. Same goes for Miss Jessie's. For me (and a lot of other ladies I know with natural hair), finding products that I like and that work for my specific needs (i.e. moisturizing) is truly an ongoing journey.
GlamQueen21
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My hair is not relaxed either. I sometimes use Elasta QP in my hair to deminish my dry scalp or sometimes I will use the Pink lotion for my hair.
na_pink
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you ALL apparently have misunderstood what I was saying. I was trying to understand her hairtype and saying Jamaican just made me think about the country not about her race, she could have been anything from Brown, white , chinese , indian anything. So if she was white and hispanic that means I could have in no way given her my advice considering Im not familiar with type 1-2 hair
JamaicanDvia - being mixed (and therefore having experience) has nothing to do with this discussion. I do not think any smart person from the Caribbean would say Jamaican , Trinidadian, St. Lucian or Barbadian when asked their race. Because those are nationalities not race
Im not really one to say someone is black or white, i say brown ..so i can understand how some of you misunderstood me when i stated that.When asked my ethnicity i do not say im black - because i do not look like tar, nor do I say African American - because im not from America nor Africa . Im from the Caribbean (having said that , now you all can jump on me)
| Originally Posted by aziajs
That is an awesome point. I never understand why people make such an issue by nationality references. |
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| Originally Posted by couturesista
Do you think she should have said mixed origin? Would she have been able to say Jamaican and Hispanic?
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| Originally Posted by Nyla2120
I totally agree with you. I don't understand what the issue was/is either. I'm also a "mixed" woman (black, irish, cherokee) & when describing my race that is what I say. Brown skinned could be so many different races. I would really like to know why she had a problem with her describing her daughter the way she did. |
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| Originally Posted by JamaicanDiva2
HUGE SECOND!!! i am EXTREMELY confused as to what the issue w/ her saying that her daughters are Jamaican & Hispanic is. . . why should she have said her daughters were "brown-skinned?!?!" half the world is "brown-skinned! (I'm generalizing, here!) "Brown-skinned" can describe anyone from Asians to Latinos to Africans to Caribbeans etc. . . I believe she was correct in identifying her daughter's specific ethnicities rather than just generalizing them as "brown-skinned" or "mixed." Because mixed children's hair is EXTREMELY varied, but by identifying her daughter's ethnicities, there is a better chance that someone here would have similar hair & be able to identify & help. I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just trying to understand the confusion. . . I myself am mixed, Jamaican & Caucasian (50/50) & this is how I ALWAYS identify myself. I would never refer to myself or my siblings as simply "brown-skinned. . . "that is not a race or an ethnicity either. . . "mixed, biracial, or multiracial" is as far as I will generalize, but there again, these terms are so broad that I usually specify exactly what I am. Just my personal thoughts & opinions. . . feel free to disagree, but as a "mixed" woman, I feel that I have at least some experience on this issue/ topic.
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you ALL apparently have misunderstood what I was saying. I was trying to understand her hairtype and saying Jamaican just made me think about the country not about her race, she could have been anything from Brown, white , chinese , indian anything. So if she was white and hispanic that means I could have in no way given her my advice considering Im not familiar with type 1-2 hair
JamaicanDvia - being mixed (and therefore having experience) has nothing to do with this discussion. I do not think any smart person from the Caribbean would say Jamaican , Trinidadian, St. Lucian or Barbadian when asked their race. Because those are nationalities not race
Im not really one to say someone is black or white, i say brown ..so i can understand how some of you misunderstood me when i stated that.When asked my ethnicity i do not say im black - because i do not look like tar, nor do I say African American - because im not from America nor Africa . Im from the Caribbean (having said that , now you all can jump on me)
TISH1124
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^^^ My 2Cents.....I think since this was a WOC thread we could all assume she was a woman of color or "brown-skinned" as you put it...However, my only eyebrow raise was, Why was it even necessary to point out the fact that being Jamaican was not a race? I guess I didn't see how that point had any relevance to this topic? I am by no means jumping on you, nor was I offended....I just think maybe this is where the misunderstanding took place...Just trying to understand why the comment was even necessary....Because a lot of people are born from multi descendant/cultures/race....and it does make a difference in skin tone, hair texture etc... I am one of those all mixed up folks!!
d n d
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I agree. I think we get so analytical about these type of things. For example, we have taken a light hearted topic such as hair care and turned into something way more intense for a hair forum... not to discount the topic because it is very important!
And oh yeah, I have used many brands. Hawaian Silky, Motions, Nexxus, Organic Root Stimulator, Mizani, and now Im back to Aphogee. Mizani shampoo/conditioner left my hair a little weighed down. I recently started using the Aphogee line again and my hair seems dry. I do like the Organic Root Stimulator Hair Mayo, it really is a great conditioner and make the hair strong with continued use.
| Originally Posted by TISH1127
^^^ My 2Cents.....I think since this was a WOC thread we could all assume she was a woman of color or "brown-skinned" as you put it...However, my only eyebrow raise was, Why was it even necessary to point out the fact that being Jamaican was not a race? I guess I didn't see how that point had any relevance to this topic? I am by no means jumping on you, nor was I offended....I just think maybe this is where the misunderstanding took place...Just trying to understand why the comment was even necessary....Because a lot of people are born from multi descendant/cultures/race....and it does make a difference in skin tone, hair texture etc... I am one of those all mixed up folks!! |
I agree. I think we get so analytical about these type of things. For example, we have taken a light hearted topic such as hair care and turned into something way more intense for a hair forum... not to discount the topic because it is very important!
And oh yeah, I have used many brands. Hawaian Silky, Motions, Nexxus, Organic Root Stimulator, Mizani, and now Im back to Aphogee. Mizani shampoo/conditioner left my hair a little weighed down. I recently started using the Aphogee line again and my hair seems dry. I do like the Organic Root Stimulator Hair Mayo, it really is a great conditioner and make the hair strong with continued use.
na_pink
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...is jamaican a race ?
| Originally Posted by TISH1127
^^^ My 2Cents.....I think since this was a WOC thread we could all assume she was a woman of color or "brown-skinned" as you put it...However, my only eyebrow raise was, Why was it even necessary to point out the fact that being Jamaican was not a race? I guess I didn't see how that point had any relevance to this topic? I am by no means jumping on you, nor was I offended....I just think maybe this is where the misunderstanding took place...Just trying to understand why the comment was even necessary....Because a lot of people are born from multi descendant/cultures/race....and it does make a difference in skin tone, hair texture etc... I am one of those all mixed up folks!! |
...is jamaican a race ?
