Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows

[Kimberleigh]

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Originally Posted by Raerae I'm not sure if this was directed at me or not. But assuming it was, I didn't leak the book ;p

If I were talking to you, trust me, I would have directly quoted you.

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Assuming it's about the general public, how does writing fan fiction ruin the novel for people who like suprise endings? It's a pretty common occurance that around the time of a highly anticipated novel in a serie's release, that fan fiction pops up all over the net claiming to be the legitimate copy of the book thats comming out. This isn't the first Harry Potter release that has had "copies" of the book claiming to be legitimate availible on the net prior to release day.

I wasn't discussing fanfic. I'm discussing the actual book if it has really and truly been leaked. I'm not rushing around trying to confirm anything (which adequately addresses your next paragraph); I've been waiting for the last 5 years or so for an ending, and I swear to christ if someone ruins this for me, they'll have a 5'3" 115lb 4 month pregnant woman kicking their ass. Seriously.

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But even if the real version is released on the net, in order for it to ruin the book for you, you would have to personally seek out the novel and read it. And at that point, if you are reading the real novel, how is the story spoiled for you, if you read it pre-release, or post? It's still the first time your reading it. And if it's not the real version, it can't be spoiled for you, because it's going to be different, and at that point, the fan fiction you read b4 release day, is just that, fan fiction...

yeah, because people aren't assholes.

Give me a break...You're telling me that some asshat who picks up the book in a bookstore or wal-mart or whatever might not read the last few pages and announce it to anyone who happens to been standing around them. Maybe someone finds it online and posts it on any other website/forum that I may frequent, or someone I know finds it and is talking about it with someone else? Puh-lease...You can't possibly tell me you haven't had someone ruin a movie for you by accident. I don't have to actively seek it out; someone else could easily ruin this for me.

 

[*Stargazer*]

I have learned to keep the TV off and stay off the 'net when I don't want something spoiled. People will go out of their way to maliciously ruin the anticipation for others in places that you wouldn't expect it.

Case in point, when AI was on, there was a particular poster on a Credit Forum that I go to that enjoyed posting, in the Credit Forum, the results from AI after it aired on the East Coast. They would post the results as the title of a topic knowing that people were browsing, looking for credit help, and would come across the spoiler. The mods took care of it after they did it twice, but it still sucks for people that actually like to discover endings for themselves.

I will go psycho postal on anyone that tries to ruin this book for me.

 

[Raerae]

I kinda wonder in cases like this, how much of the "fake information" out there is actually planted by the book authors themselves. Apparently right now there is like 5 different books floating out there right now, all with different and believeable endings lol.

 

[Shimmer]

I sincerely doubt that the woman who has more money than the queen of England would bother taking the time to disseminate false information for profit, much less take the time away from her children to come up with other versions, or read them to silently endorse them.

 

[Kimberleigh]

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Originally Posted by Raerae I kinda wonder in cases like this, how much of the "fake information" out there is actually planted by the book authors themselves. Apparently right now there is like 5 different books floating out there right now, all with different and believeable endings lol.

Just throwin' this out there, but I highly doubt JK Rowling would actively "leak" her own story to the internet. She didn't become the richest woman in the UK by allowing everybody and their brother access to her livelihood, the one thing in this world that pulled her out of poverty, for free on the internet...Even fake made up ones. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Kimberleigh]

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Originally Posted by Shimmer I sincerely doubt that the woman who has more money than the queen of England would bother taking the time to disseminate false information for profit, much less take the time away from her children to come up with other versions, or read them to silently endorse them.

LMAO! Great minds think alike!

 

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by Shimmer I sincerely doubt that the woman who has more money than the queen of England would bother taking the time to disseminate false information for profit, much less take the time away from her children to come up with other versions, or read them to silently endorse them.

Thats not necessarily true. Directors of movies often make several movies with alternate endings in order to prevent people from knowing the actual ending to the movie in the event that things are leaked early.

It's not necessarily for profit, but if she has more moeny than the queen of Englad, she could easily afford to pay a few authors to write believeable novels, to release on the net in the event the actual manuscript is leaked. Better to have 5 different version to keep people guessing, than just one.

 

[Shimmer]

JKR has gone on record time and again speaking against leaks and spoilers.
I highly doubt what you're suggesting is true.

 

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by Shimmer JKR has gone on record time and again speaking against leaks and spoilers. I highly doubt what you're suggesting is true.

Yeh leaks and spoilers of the REAL books.

A spoiler is NOT a spoiler, if it's not the real thing. You can't leak a fake version of the book, it's impossible. If the only thing being leaked was fanfiction claiming to be the real thing, i really doubt she would care, because she could just confidently say, none of the books leaked on the web are the real thing.

It's only because one of the books released is authentic, that they are going after everyone with copywrite laws and legal methods etc. And in order to prevent people from 100% with out a doubt knowing what version is real, she has to go after everyone to keep people guessing.

So it's very possible that she takes the same precautions as movie producers do, and creates several different versions (even if she doesn't write all of them herself), to protect her intellectual property.

 

[Kimberleigh]

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Originally Posted by Raerae Yeh leaks and spoilers of the REAL books. A spoiler is NOT a spoiler, if it's not the real thing. You can't leak a fake version of the book, it's impossible. If the only thing being leaked was fanfiction claiming to be the real thing, i really doubt she would care, because she could just confidently say, none of the books leaked on the web are the real thing. It's only because one of the books released is authentic, that they are going after everyone with copywrite laws and legal methods etc. And in order to prevent people from 100% with out a doubt knowing what version is real, she has to go after everyone to keep people guessing. So it's very possible that she takes the same precautions as movie producers do, and creates several different versions (even if she doesn't write all of them herself), to protect her intellectual property.

Keee-rist...You really just "argue" for the mere sake of "arguing", don't you.

 

[Raerae]

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Originally Posted by Kimberleigh Keee-rist...You really just "argue" for the mere sake of "arguing", don't you.

I'm not arguing. My opinion is just as valid as yours or Shimmers. The fact is, none of us are J.K. Rowling, so all we can do is guess.

 

[Kimberleigh]

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Originally Posted by Raerae I'm not arguing. My opinion is just as valid as yours or Shimmers. The fact is, none of us are J.K. Rowling, so all we can do is guess.

Oy...

 

[MxAxC-_ATTACK]

She does make a valid point...

 

[Juneplum]

ladies (and gents) - can we please stay on topic and not argue about spoilers and whether or not jk has leaked 4567899876543 different endings?? thanks for your cooperation.

 

[Shawna]

Alright, just to be safe I found the internet version and spent the last two days reading it. I really can't say for sure whether it is real or not. Some parts seemed real like JKR, but others were poorly written and had questionalble material. Either way, if it is real, then I know what happened, if not, I can't wait to get my hands on the real thing tonight and dig in. I am actually hoping for the internet version to be a fake so I have a brand new book to read tonight lol. Oh yeah, no point in trying to get me to tell you what happened. I hate spoilers.

 

[Shimmer]

i'm waiting patiently.

 

[Raerae]

Isn't it like out already?

The New York times already posted the review/plot of the entire book heh.

 

[Kimberleigh]

I have my "bracelet" from Border's tonight, and I'm in the second group (boo!) to buy my book. They wouldn't let my best friend pick mine up too, so I had to send my husband to pick it up. Leaving work seemed kind of silly, and my husband's off for the summer (he's a teacher) so it's not like he's busy!

So, so, so excited!

 

[AndreaLeigh]

I read the NYT review on Wednesday night, and the reviewer said he/she had puchased the book the day before from a bookstore in NYC.

I don't understand why people would do that. I just really don't. It's people who go to movie theatres and record the movie, then sell the copies. Why? And why do people support the people who do that by buying those blackmarket copies? I guess I'm a little too straight and narrow for that.

Anyway, I purchased my book from Amazon so it will be here tomorrow when I wake up. Our town is doing a huge Harry Potter night tonight - they are making a Diagon Alley, having a Quiddich match, making one of the bookstores into Flourish and Botts, having costume contests, showing the movie... it sounds like so much fun! I wish I had kids so I could go. LOL

 

[Kimberleigh]

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Originally Posted by AndreaLeigh Our town is doing a huge Harry Potter night tonight - they are making a Diagon Alley, having a Quiddich match, making one of the bookstores into Flourish and Botts, having costume contests, showing the movie... it sounds like so much fun! I wish I had kids so I could go. LOL

Psssh! I'm 29 and my best friend is 28. I have no kids (except the little one I'm "hosting" now

), and we're going to hang out at Border's all night with all the little kids. It's always a good time; feel no shame, and GO!!