Is this wrong or not?

nursie

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dance moves not age appropriate. i swear earlier this year i head a commercial for some kid's choice awards and they were going to have rhianna singing that 'is you big enough' song. and the kids bop that they always advertise, they have little kids singing songs that have a sexual meaning. i'm no fuddy duddy, but sexualization of children is just tabooooooo
 

Simply Elegant

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These kids don't know any better. Adults are the ones sexualizing it. I think it;s fine. About thepedophiles, they'll be attracted to kids no matter what they wear. I think people are judging the girls unfairly.
 

BeccalovesMAC

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Originally Posted by hello_my_apple
i'm sorry but i'm a dancer and my mom DID let me wear stuff like this. i've seen little girls in less on the beach, i think we need to look at it as just the talent and it's a performance. nothing more.

Yea I agree girls wear less to the beach but these lil girls are not at the beach. My hubby would kick my fucken ass if I allowed our daughter to do something like his.




In December my daughter performed the half time show for the Vikings game live on prime time Sunday night football. I remember being so scared that the outfits would be too 'adult'. They did a great job of notifying the parents of the routine and the costume designs weeks before the big game. I couldn't imagine approving her cheering if she was dancing like this. It blows my mind
 

Folie

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I think this is disgusting. Just as, another poster pointed out, I cring when I'm at a beach and I see a little girl wearing less than me (I'm not old and I was rised in such a way that wearing a two piece bathing suit is too skimpy for my tastes). While it may seem mean to say, I don't think the future is bright for these girls. They're learning at a young age, showing your body and being sexual is good and you get rewarded for that. So, if they grow up to be very unmodest I wouldn't be surprised. They're being "pimped" from a young age. I don't know how a parent could agree to this.
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elb154

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This is absolutely horrible! The girls are super talented and they could have found a routine with MUCH better taste!
 

COBI

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For me, it's not necessarily that any one element is "wrong", but when you take them together as a sum ("lingerie-based" costume + moves + song choice), I personally agree that its not age-appropriate.

There was a similar one with 7yo in 2009 for "My Boyfriend's Back" which one first overall for its category.

One of the saddest things IMHO is that by creating questionable choreography for the age and adding in lingerie-inspired costumes, the teachers and parents are actually creating a distraction from the girls developing skills.
 

LMD84

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i'm not a mum but if i were i'd never let my child perform that. the outfits are very adult and lets be honest - something you'd perhaps see women wearing in a strip club. so a 7 year old child wearing it is not good at all. plus the song is way too adult for them.

extremely talented girls though! just betterwith different song and outfits!
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hello_my_apple

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i'm aware that these girls are not on the beach, i was just giving the example. Memorial weekend i went down the shore and i saw girls in bathing suites that look similar to what Rihanna and Kim Kardashian wore. but parents think it's 'cute' and 'adorable'. i can realize and understand that it's just a performance from very well trained girls. i WOULD let me child do this, it's just dance. gosh.



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Originally Posted by BeccalovesMAC
Yea I agree girls wear less to the beach but these lil girls are not at the beach. My hubby would kick my fucken ass if I allowed our daughter to do something like his.




In December my daughter performed the half time show for the Vikings game live on prime time Sunday night football. I remember being so scared that the outfits would be too 'adult'. They did a great job of notifying the parents of the routine and the costume designs weeks before the big game. I couldn't imagine approving her cheering if she was dancing like this. It blows my mind

 

BBJay

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Somehow I knew when I clicked on this thread, that it was going to be about this video. And I've watched it multiple times trying to find these horrible awful things that people keep talking about. But every time I watch this video, I see nothing but talent, commitment, and showmanship from those girls. Maybe its because I'm a dancer, but I think the choreography was full of energy, paired well with the song, and displayed their talent. Not to mention they executed it incredibly well. Would I have personally selected that outfit? No, but I feel people are too focused on it and not the actual talent of the girls. I think this routine is as sexual as you make it out to be. If you want to look as overly sexualized, then you can find dozens of things that are "wrong" with this routine, but I don't look at it that way.
 

Shimmer

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That's like saying walking around wearing a v-cut top with a two cupsize enhancing pushup bra, short skirt, and 4" heels isn't inviting attention, saying it's only as sexual as the viewer perceives the outfit.

That's abdicating any responsibility for the choreographer and dance studio, saying that it's the VIEWER'S fault for having the impression of a sexualized dance.
 

Ingenue

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Dancer colleagues, please stop using the arts as an excuse to blur the lines of age appropriateness.

It's very easy to use 'art' to explain away controversy and lack of common sense.

It's not about their talent.. because they are EXTREMELY talented. That is apparent. I've heard people excusing it with the reasoning that they've seen other kids do worse. How does that have ANY bearing on this particular display? It doesn't. Just because you've seen worse, doesn't negate the sexualized nature of this performance. If the girls were teenagers, I'd probably be less concerned.

This is the fault of the adults. None of it lies with the children. And no one is guaranteeing that a pedophile will be happy about this. But our job (as adults) is to PROTECT children, not exploit them. Regarding this performance, shouldn't we err on the side of caution?
 

yazerella

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Don't get me wrong - these girls are talented. Really talented.

But everything about this video is wrong that it made me emotional just watching it. They're kids. Kids!! Kids shouldn't dance like that, or dress like that. I do blame the parents, but then I also blame society. A lot of music and dancing is very overly sexualized these days. And kids ARE watching it and they ARE growing up too fast. But we shouldn't be encouraging them to grow up so fast!

As a couple of other people on this thread have said, we should let kids be kids. Let them dance, but not like this. To be honest, it's more the dance style than the outfits that got to me.. I just found it so wrong.
 

COBI

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My friend owns a studio, and she is able to create choreo that displays her students' talents and skills without incorporating suggestive moves into the routines.

I think it's insulting to insinuate that only dancers can appreciate the artistic value of what the routine and that must be why others have a problem with it. How is having 7 year olds perform a suggestive routine "artistic"?

Their talent could have been displayed with a more appropriate routine, and this routine actually suggests a limited artistic vision to me. There are an almost infinite number of other routes the choreographer/instructor could have chosen that would have been more age-appropriate and probably highlighted more dance skills than pelvic pulses do.

We did a short number to single ladies in hip-hop class this past season, and it had nowhere the amount of suggestive moves as the one in the video.
 

user79

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Good dancing skills.

Poor choice of costumed and dance moves for the age.

This girls could still have shined with a slightly altered choreography and age appropriate costumes. The costumes remind me of something out of Moulin Rouge, almost lingerie like.
 

Mabelle

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Agreed. You can absolutely show talent with other costumes (that are still form fitting, but do not look like they were bought at victoria secret) and dance moves that are still fun and energetic, but not as sexual as this.
No ones denying these girls can move (hell, better than i EVER could) but a routine like this is befitting someone 10 years older than them. Someone thats at the very veyr least, gone through puberty.
 

GLAMORandGORE

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Originally Posted by Simply Elegant
These kids don't know any better. Adults are the ones sexualizing it. I think it;s fine. About thepedophiles, they'll be attracted to kids no matter what they wear. I think people are judging the girls unfairly.

of course they'll be attracted no matter what, but if they see more than they should, they'll be more likely to act on their wants.
 

user79

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Originally Posted by GLAMORandGORE
of course they'll be attracted no matter what, but if they see more than they should, they'll be more likely to act on their wants.

I don't think so at all...I don't think the argument that sexy clothing for kids encourages pedophilia more than normal clothing is based on any evidence...pedophilia has always existed, regardless of what children wore. I don't think clothing has much to do with it at all, more the disturbed psychological aspect. Normal men aren't going to look at a sexily clad 7 year old and think, "oh, she's hot I want to have sex with her" just because of the dress code. I still think sexualizing children at such a young age is wrong though.
 

COBI

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Originally Posted by Simply Elegant
These kids don't know any better. Adults are the ones sexualizing it. I think it;s fine. About thepedophiles, they'll be attracted to kids no matter what they wear. I think people are judging the girls unfairly.

In general, I don't believe people are judging or blaming the girls, but are questioning the judgement of the "responsible" adults (parents and choreographer/teacher.)
 

LMD84

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Originally Posted by COBI
In general, I don't believe people are judging or blaming the girls, but are questioning the judgement of the "responsible" adults (parents and choreographer/teacher.)

exactly
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