Life beyond MAC

..kels*

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life beyond MAC.. is there such a thing?!
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just kidding! hehe.
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i think it's perfectly reasonable to "obsess", if you will, over MAC & makeup if it's your passion & it makes you happy. IMO, you can't put a price on personal happiness. there are some of us who make a living doing makeup, in which case it can't be classified as just a silly obsession. it makes perfect sense for a makeup artist to be worried about & hope that nothing bad happens to their kit.. it is essentially their life. & for those of us who aren't makeup artists (& aren't aspiring to be), it still makes sense. when you invest a significant amount of money into something, of course you don't want to see it damaged/stolen/ruined/etc. i personally take a lot of pride in my makeup kit & my love of MAC. it's what makes me, me. i don't see anything wrong with investing in something that you're passionate about. however, i do understand where you're coming from. & i'll admit that i don't think twice about paying a few hundred dollars for a small amount of makeup.. but when it comes to donating or doing something charitable i'm not as quick to throw my money away. which is horrible & disgusting, i know, but obviously something that i'll be thinking about from now on.
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macslut

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I understand where you are coming from completely. I don't spend on something that I will not use. I don't spend a whole lot comparatively. I am not obessed. I have other things I have to do and get done and pay for.

I also do a great deal of charity work. It is so important to give back. I will drop a $10 for something like a Girls, Inc drive or the American Liver Foundation to help support research.

I am also doing Relay for Life for the second time which supports the American Cancer Society. Shameless self promo: There is a link to my donation page if you wish to donate to me.

Glamdoll, the fact that you are thinking about this shows that you have a good heart and that you are open to change. Good for you!
 

Hawkeye

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I understand where you are coming from. I really do.

I know for me- why I hesitate so often to donate money is because there are so many frauds out there who use similar names and it sort of ruins the credibility for the legit ones.

I only donate charities that I really care about. My charities that I have no problem donating towards is Relay For Life (Hey macslut- I'm a temporary team leader while my team leader is getting treatments for Cancer in my area!! Maybe we can chat it up one day and get ideas- Our thing is happening in May when is yours?)
Special olympics, Salvation Army and my church.

MAC also donates a lot of their money to their AIDS Charity with Elton John I think.

But for me that's why I hesistate unless I know that 100% of the money I donate is going to the people who need it not lining some pockets of a fraud or an exec (why I don't donate to the United Way).
 

..kels*

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
I know for me- why I hesitate so often to donate money is because there are so many frauds out there who use similar names and it sort of ruins the credibility for the legit ones.

I only donate charities that I really care about.


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the only "charity" that i fully support is breast cancer awareness.
 

knoxydoll

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I have a hard time donating to other countries when there are kids in my own that are suffering just as much.
I do support the Candian Cancer Association because my father died of cander 9 years ago and I support other funds for children in my area.
 

MiCHiE

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As a victim of Hurricane Katrina, I totally understand where you're coming from. Before the hurricane, I donated to Red Cross & United Way. After the hurricane, the only charity I donate to is Catholic Charities. Red Cross is a joke. Don't want to offend anyone, but I had to damn near jump thru hoops, after being on hold for 4+ hours (on a hot ass cell phone, at that) for what ended up being a grand damn total of $340 or so dollars. I thank GOD for the people of Plano, TX. and Catholic Charities, who paid our $1200 first month's rent. My Katrina lesson learned: eliminate the middleman and adopt a family in need. The trickle-down effect is not a joke.
 

little teaser

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Originally Posted by ♥MiCHiE♥
As a victim of Hurricane Katrina, I totally understand where you're coming from. Before the hurricane, I donated to Red Cross & United Way. After the hurricane, the only charity I donate to is Catholic Charities. Red Cross is a joke. Don't want to offend anyone, but I had to damn near jump thru hoops, after being on hold for 4+ hours (on a hot ass cell phone, at that) for what ended up being a grand damn total of $340 or so dollars. I thank GOD for the people of Plano, TX. and Catholic Charities, who paid our $1200 first month's rent. My Katrina lesson learned: eliminate the middleman and adopt a family in need. The trickle-down effect is not a joke.

its so true i use to donate to the redcross untill katrina.. churches are great they are truly like a family and will help with any and everything..
 

Beauty Mark

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I know for me- why I hesitate so often to donate money is because there are so many frauds out there who use similar names and it sort of ruins the credibility for the legit ones.

I only donate charities that I really care about.

I worry about misuse of funds. I only give to orgs that are heavily researched to being good. There's a site online that has info on it; I forget what it is, though, but it gives what percentage of your money actually goes to the cause.

You have to keep things in balance. I mean- the time I spend reading about cosmetics, I could be volunteering, raising funds, etc. I try doing those things in my spare time. I don't feel that guilty enjoying life by relaxing; I'm useless unless I get some down time.

As for money, I can't say too much. I tend to give a lot of money for how much I earn. However, I don't feel bad about buying myself something nice. Life is too short to take all of the world's problems on your shoulders. You have to balance it.

If you are worried about your consumerism, try to spend money on companies that do give back. If that doesn't feel enough, why not make a promise to yourself that for every x amount of dollars you spend on MAC that you give y% to a charity?

Also, go to www.thehungersite.com. There's a bunch of causes linked up to them. All you have to do is click on a link. It's surprisingly legitimate.
 

glamdoll

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My apologies if it sounded like makeup didnt matter..
I know it does to those whos life and family depend on it, and also for those who ( like myself) find a get away from the daily stresses of life.. its just that I was watching a few things on TV about
kids starving here in the US when Bush is trying to fund more money for his "war on terror" wen in reality it is a war OF terror...
And also that some people that talk about hurricane Katrina like its a thing of the past when its not.. its still happening everyday to the ppl that live there..
I know there are so many scams and frauds outher that it does make it hard to actually help the good ppl.

I personally worry about kids, having one myself, and placing my self in the parents shoes.
I admire the doctors and staff at St. Jude's hospital.
also the doctors int he Childrens Hospital of Orange County
who saved my little brothers life many times.. and looked after my son in a critical time after his birth.

I know people view things differently..
but it was just one of those moments..
 

Lady_MAC

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"when Bush is trying to fund more money for his "war on terror" wen in reality it is a war OF terror"

Indeed
 

BinkysBaby

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I absolutely love make up but I do understand the humanitarian side as well. Honestly, I worked for a telephone funraising company that raised money for Catholic Charities, Red Cross, Barclay Theater, the Republican National Committee, Pro Life.....the list goes on and on. To be completely honest with you; it's a joke. This was many years ago and we got paid $11 or $12 per hour which was good at the time for a college student. In addition to that, they would give us bonuses for raising more money. Guess where that money was coming from? Yes, the poor people who thought that their $50, $100 or what ever dollar amount was going to the charity of their choice. They rarely questioned how much went towards the charity because they just trusted us. Oh, and when Hurricane Katrina came, I took place, we didn't even have to go through our speeches.....supporters were dropping thousands of dollars on one call (when the average was more like $40). It was so sad because all the Katrina victims were suffering and not getting the care they needed. I said all that to say, no, I don't donate to charities because I don't trust how they will allocate the funds. And this may seem insensitive, but I can not save all of Africa, South or Central America. I can only do what I can do. When I see someone in front of a convenience store or the side of the freeway, I ALWAYS give them money. I don't care what they're going to do with it, I know that I gave to the source.
 

MxAxC-_ATTACK

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I donate, To the Salvation army. In the form of clothing and other household goods that are no longer of use to me. At least then I know that most likely someone WILL get some use out of what I am donating
 

prinzessin784

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Just because some of us love makeup or even obsess over it doesn't mean we don't have a life outside of MAC. It takes, what, 10, 20 minutes to do your makeup in the morning? And then maybe we'll spend on hour on Specktra? That leaves a lot of day left to carry on our normal lives that aren't self-absorbed. Give us a break and let us have that hour and a half to gush about pretty lipstick because for the rest of the day we're working hard and doing our part.
 

mzcelaneous

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To someone on the outside looking in, yeah it can look like we're crazy MAC freaks who don't do a thing all day but worry about make-up, but I think it's safe to say that a majority of us aren't literally obsessed and we do donate and help out to those in need. I'm sure we all don't spend most of our hours here. When others and yourself read about our "obsessions" and such, it's because this is one of the places where we're allowed to do so. The majority of the topics on this forum is about make-up, but be aware, I'm sure we all have a life outside of Specktra.
 

GalleyGirl

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This isn't related to MAC, but http://www.universalgiving.org/ is a good resource for finding legitimate charities. Unforutuantely the bigger the organization, the bigger the management costs are...working for a non-profit, I can tell you that most of our donated funds go to the unglamourous stuff, which are our operating costs. And while not exciting, ("Woo-hoo, I helped pay for a stapler")..is vital to our survival. Just my two cents.
 

Beauty Mark

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When I see someone in front of a convenience store or the side of the freeway, I ALWAYS give them money. I don't care what they're going to do with it, I know that I gave to the source.

Actually, that can be a really bad idea. Besides what they may do with it (drugs instead of food or water), some people actually have money and a job (like a night or evening job) and do that because they want to scam people. People scammed through Katrina and 9/11.

The truth is that you can replace "MAC" or makeup with any luxury and question your need for it. Look around your home. Do you really need a computer with Internet (libraries offer it for free), TV, music, books, decorations, etc.? Even looking at my dinner tonight, I didn't need everything I have in it; I could've had the same nutrients but the meal would've been so much blander.

I think it is important to question your own consumerism and keep yourself in check. I understand having those moments, but I hope that it isn't the majority of your life that you're concerned about not doing enough. I find it overwhelming to decide what to give to. Science, poverty, relief funds, art, etc. Eventually, it comes to the point you have to learn to be okay with what you do and not let it consume your life. Everything has its value. Buying makeup could give commission to someone who's trying to fund her way through college to become a doctor or pay for her children. You can, of course, go overboard with that mentality, but really, most things have some value to them.
 

BinkysBaby

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Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
Actually, that can be a really bad idea. Besides what they may do with it (drugs instead of food or water), some people actually have money and a job (like a night or evening job) and do that because they want to scam people. People scammed through Katrina and 9/11.

I do understand exactly what you're saying. Maybe they do have jobs, maybe they don't. Maybe they're going to buy food with the money, maybe drugs. Honestly, that is not my concern. My purpose is not to judge them. I just want to make a small contribution that I know is going to the individual that I gave money to. I know there are tons of scams so do we stop giving period?
 

glamdoll

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Originally Posted by prinzessin784
Just because some of us love makeup or even obsess over it doesn't mean we don't have a life outside of MAC. It takes, what, 10, 20 minutes to do your makeup in the morning? And then maybe we'll spend on hour on Specktra? That leaves a lot of day left to carry on our normal lives that aren't self-absorbed. Give us a break and let us have that hour and a half to gush about pretty lipstick because for the rest of the day we're working hard and doing our part.

I would have really liked if u actually read the original post and/or the whole thread.
I never did say that people here had no life, because Im here too for a reason. I also said not to take this personally because it was one of those moments for me where i just sit and ponder upon things,
maybe next time before you get an impulse to reply
be polite and read the thread.

Yes its true "MAC" can be replaced with any other luxery, and my question would be the same..
its true thou, i my self do it too, I like to buy coach here and there
and some really nice "luxuries" which are probably not nesesary

it was just my personal thought at the moment..
is there anything else that worries us?
not like I didnt think there was.. I just wanted to know..
outside of MAC and Makeup..
what global issues worry you?

has anyone heard of VERICHIP a chip the size of a grain of rice
that can be inplanted to ur right hand an will contain all your information, medical, and financial, any police records,anything!

It was just a mere thought and question and not ment to
hurt anyone personally which i had stressed in the beginning and in my second post.
 
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