Alright, I tested the two eye paints that I have. I'm going to go ahead and say these will be my only two. I like them, but I don't love, love, love them. There's something about the way they dry down that I don't love. Yes, it's pigmented, yes it still stuck to my lid without primer for a couple of hours, but I wasn't totally in love with the look of it on the eye overall. It's kinda flat. As a liner I had to draw a line and then when I tried to build it up a bit it was a tiny bit streaky. So, I had to do little short lines to make it completely opaque. Again, not a huge hassle, but they are drawbacks. YSL liners as a shadow gives a better finish and is completely opaque in one swipe. No matter how thin or thick you make the line one swipe is all that's needed. Plus, I think the Nars liner has a bit more slip. That's not a good thing in my opinion. YSL is just waxy enough to not slide, therefore making it enough for a one and done. So, on a scale of 1-10 I'd give Nars an 8, but it can't live up to YSL (10), but it's ten times better than Clinique which runs like it stole something.