Rapex?
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Nymphetish
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I would personally never wear one, but then again, I would never carry any weapon.
Where's the article from?
Where's the article from?
lipstickandhate
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I guess you'd better not plan on having any consensual sex either.
HeavenLeiBlu
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I'm actually on the mailing list of the company manufacturing this condom.
My thing is, the responsibility is still on the woman to go through the trouble of procuring and wearing this condom. Yeah the bastard gets a damaged penis, and will be instantly fingered for the crime, but what about the trauma a woman has to endure up to and during the penetration? What about the lasting memory of the rape? Why aren't men just taught that the shit is wrong, and can't be discouraged some other way other than the threat of getting his dick tenderized?
My thing is, the responsibility is still on the woman to go through the trouble of procuring and wearing this condom. Yeah the bastard gets a damaged penis, and will be instantly fingered for the crime, but what about the trauma a woman has to endure up to and during the penetration? What about the lasting memory of the rape? Why aren't men just taught that the shit is wrong, and can't be discouraged some other way other than the threat of getting his dick tenderized?
*Stargazer*
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They are.
The type of men who sexually assault people just don't really care that it's wrong. Without fail, unless they have some legitimate type of mental illness, every single rapist knows that what they are doing is morally and legally wrong. They just.don't.care.
I don't see an issue with this. It's all well and good to say "well, I shouldn't have to prevent someone from raping me" because you SHOULDN'T but reality is that sometimes you might WANT to, unfortunately.
Originally Posted by HeavenLeiBlu
Why aren't men just taught that the shit is wrong, and can't be discouraged some other way other than the threat of getting his dick tenderized? |
They are.
The type of men who sexually assault people just don't really care that it's wrong. Without fail, unless they have some legitimate type of mental illness, every single rapist knows that what they are doing is morally and legally wrong. They just.don't.care.
I don't see an issue with this. It's all well and good to say "well, I shouldn't have to prevent someone from raping me" because you SHOULDN'T but reality is that sometimes you might WANT to, unfortunately.
Girl about town
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eek!!! its quite kick ass in a way, but its a shame woman have to resort to this! . The rape victim would probably get charged with assault knowing the law!!
xtiffineyx
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I remember hearing about this a looong time ago in a magazine I think. And it makes me cringe to read it about it again, I just don't think I could get used to the thought that something that dangerous is shoved up my hoo-hoo.
Dizzy
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I love the idea, I hate the fact that it's actually 'needed' for lack of a better term. It's not all guys who we've got to worry about, it's the ones with no respect for other people or the law. Unfortunately, the 'bad guys' aren't nice enough to wear neon signs on their foreheads telling us who is who.
There's a huge potential for abuse of this, though. What happens when a woman decides to get back at boyfriend/husband/SO by using this? It's a bit of a double-edged sword.
There's a huge potential for abuse of this, though. What happens when a woman decides to get back at boyfriend/husband/SO by using this? It's a bit of a double-edged sword.
Beauty Mark
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I think it should be allowed for women who want it. Women already do stuff that tries to protect them against attackers, like carry mace or take self-defense classes. While it isn't a physical adaptation necessarily, they still, in a sense, are made to adapt.
However, I don't think it's necessarily a good idea. If there is a gang rape, I imagine your chances of survival decrease if attacker 1 gets that on him.
I also agree with the accountability issue that groups are pressing. I don't advocate ever blaming the victim. I'm kind of afraid courts are going have the whole "She must have wanted it, why wasn't she wearing one of those?"
How are these things removed when you want them removed? How good is it to have something like that stuck up in you?
However, I don't think it's necessarily a good idea. If there is a gang rape, I imagine your chances of survival decrease if attacker 1 gets that on him.
I also agree with the accountability issue that groups are pressing. I don't advocate ever blaming the victim. I'm kind of afraid courts are going have the whole "She must have wanted it, why wasn't she wearing one of those?"
How are these things removed when you want them removed? How good is it to have something like that stuck up in you?
SnowWhiteQueen
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Sounds weird to me.
duckduck
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It leaves the woman quickly and easily - it just stays attached to the man's penis. My question is how do you remove it? I mean there has to be a way for the woman to safely take it out, so then why couldn't a man do that? Also, I would wonder about the danger to the woman having something that sharp in her vagina.
Dizzy
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From what I understand, it's got barbs that point upwards so you can go in fine but as you're coming out the barbs enter the skin.
They're in rows, so a woman could probably feel around where to grab to pull it out without sticking herself.
There's a picture on the site. Everything else aside, it's a very interesting design, I can't say it's anything I'd have ever thought of.
| Originally Posted by SnowWhiteQueen
What does it mean by 'latch on' to the penis? Like, the guy can't get away? Because then wouldn't the women just get beaten to death? Unless I am reading this wrong. |
From what I understand, it's got barbs that point upwards so you can go in fine but as you're coming out the barbs enter the skin.
They're in rows, so a woman could probably feel around where to grab to pull it out without sticking herself.
There's a picture on the site. Everything else aside, it's a very interesting design, I can't say it's anything I'd have ever thought of.
Shimmer
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You really have to consider the mentality of the men in the region this has been created for, and how they relate to women.
| Originally Posted by HeavenLeiBlu
I'm actually on the mailing list of the company manufacturing this condom. My thing is, the responsibility is still on the woman to go through the trouble of procuring and wearing this condom. Yeah the bastard gets a damaged penis, and will be instantly fingered for the crime, but what about the trauma a woman has to endure up to and during the penetration? What about the lasting memory of the rape? Why aren't men just taught that the shit is wrong, and can't be discouraged some other way other than the threat of getting his dick tenderized?
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You really have to consider the mentality of the men in the region this has been created for, and how they relate to women.
HeavenLeiBlu
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For those curious about removal- the device comes with an applicator that the woman can use to safely take it out.
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Oh, of course. However, those poor values aren't relegated only to men of that region. Note - I'm still reeling nearly a week later after a thread on another messageboard, regarding withdrawal of consent during coitus. This discussion was being had by mostly Americans, with a few people outside of the US. I don't even want to post the link, but trust me, the attitudes presented by men I used to respect were so disgusting and/or immaturely articulated regarding the issue that it was really unbelieveable.
So, I'd be loathe to say that that's how "those guys over there" relate to and (dis)respect women and their bodies/wishes. I'm finding that unfortunately, mentally ill or not- many men are just not taught to respect boundaries, nor is the lesson reinforced enough. I'm not saying that all men are potential rapists, either. Some guys are just plain ignorant and/or insensitive. For me, that's the issue that needs to be aired out and openly discussed, and to educate EVERYONE about. I just find myself pretty angry about the fact that women have to go to such extreme measures to prove that they have been victimized, and for these assholes, that this device, or the fear of it is
what would deter them from violating someone in such a way.
The device itself is good for what it does. I just take issue with the obvious need for it. I take issue with the fact that women are so unprotected, and having to feel that way. I take issue with the fact that men who have done or are prone to that sort of behavior face no responsibility for their attitudes about exerting power in that way, until they have actually victimized someone, and even then, sometimes they face no or very little consequence. Then there's the whole issue of chance. "Hmmm, I'm going outside today- better insert that Rapex, you never know!" The idea of having to make an extreme choice like that daily is way more heavy than remebering to wash behind your ears or drink enough water for the day.
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| Originally Posted by Shimmer
You really have to consider the mentality of the men in the region this has been created for, and how they relate to women. |
Oh, of course. However, those poor values aren't relegated only to men of that region. Note - I'm still reeling nearly a week later after a thread on another messageboard, regarding withdrawal of consent during coitus. This discussion was being had by mostly Americans, with a few people outside of the US. I don't even want to post the link, but trust me, the attitudes presented by men I used to respect were so disgusting and/or immaturely articulated regarding the issue that it was really unbelieveable.
So, I'd be loathe to say that that's how "those guys over there" relate to and (dis)respect women and their bodies/wishes. I'm finding that unfortunately, mentally ill or not- many men are just not taught to respect boundaries, nor is the lesson reinforced enough. I'm not saying that all men are potential rapists, either. Some guys are just plain ignorant and/or insensitive. For me, that's the issue that needs to be aired out and openly discussed, and to educate EVERYONE about. I just find myself pretty angry about the fact that women have to go to such extreme measures to prove that they have been victimized, and for these assholes, that this device, or the fear of it is
what would deter them from violating someone in such a way.
The device itself is good for what it does. I just take issue with the obvious need for it. I take issue with the fact that women are so unprotected, and having to feel that way. I take issue with the fact that men who have done or are prone to that sort of behavior face no responsibility for their attitudes about exerting power in that way, until they have actually victimized someone, and even then, sometimes they face no or very little consequence. Then there's the whole issue of chance. "Hmmm, I'm going outside today- better insert that Rapex, you never know!" The idea of having to make an extreme choice like that daily is way more heavy than remebering to wash behind your ears or drink enough water for the day.
Beauty Mark
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I'm not familiar with what a rand is worth, but are the poorer women this thing is targeted towards going to be able to really afford it?
HeavenLeiBlu
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If I'm not mistaken, there are collaborative efforts being made by some women's advocacy groups to distribute to women who can't afford the device.
| Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
I'm not familiar with what a rand is worth, but are the poorer women this thing is targeted towards going to be able to really afford it? |
If I'm not mistaken, there are collaborative efforts being made by some women's advocacy groups to distribute to women who can't afford the device.
ratmist
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Actually, one of the first of these anti-rape condoms was created by South African man.
IOL: 'Killer tampon' to give rapists the chop
| Originally Posted by Shimmer
You really have to consider the mentality of the men in the region this has been created for, and how they relate to women. |
Actually, one of the first of these anti-rape condoms was created by South African man.
IOL: 'Killer tampon' to give rapists the chop
Dr Haumann said the device is designed to be used in the same way as a tampon. "I designed a hard cylindrical plastic core which contains the spring blade, which slices when pressed against.
"This plastic core is covered by soft material, the same as a real tampon. This is then inserted by the woman. When the rapist attacks the woman and penetration takes place, the point of his penis will touch the section containing the blade and it (the penis), or at least a part of it, is sliced off."
"This plastic core is covered by soft material, the same as a real tampon. This is then inserted by the woman. When the rapist attacks the woman and penetration takes place, the point of his penis will touch the section containing the blade and it (the penis), or at least a part of it, is sliced off."
ratmist
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Couple of things I thought about...
1. It places the emphasis on a victim preventing the crime rather than emphasing punishment of the rapist. Does this mean that if a woman doesn't have this item, she deserves what happens to her?
2. This condom may actually help prevent pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases (especially in South Africa where the infection rate of HIV is staggeringly high), but only if the woman isn't beaten to death by her attacker who's suddenly found his penis in severe pain.
3. This won't stop a rapist from penetrating the anus or forcing a woman to perform oral sex. Also, a rapist can use objects as dildos to remove the sheath.
1. It places the emphasis on a victim preventing the crime rather than emphasing punishment of the rapist. Does this mean that if a woman doesn't have this item, she deserves what happens to her?
2. This condom may actually help prevent pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases (especially in South Africa where the infection rate of HIV is staggeringly high), but only if the woman isn't beaten to death by her attacker who's suddenly found his penis in severe pain.
3. This won't stop a rapist from penetrating the anus or forcing a woman to perform oral sex. Also, a rapist can use objects as dildos to remove the sheath.
