Rapex?

redambition

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i just think that it's very sad that there's a need for this kind of device.

if it's going to help a woman feel safer in a very dangerous situation, then how can i begrudge her protecting herself the only way she feels able to?

it would be fantastic to live in a world where this sort of thing isn't necessary... but even though i find devices like this very confronting, i still think they might give some women out there some comfort.
 

anjelik_dreamin

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Yeah, I'm a little worried about how the rapist will react when he finds barbs attached to his penis. I doubt he's gonna let the woman go after that. This would work in theory, but it doesn't account for psycho rapists with painful members becoming even more violent.
 

hotmodelchiq

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This product is something that they really need over there! Hundreds of women and BABIES (a 7month old baby!!!!) are raped because witchdoctors tell men the cure to AIDS can be found by having sex with a virgin when really they're just spreading it. I read a news article where a 7 month old baby was raped to DEATH! This needs to stop and I feel like thats what the SOB gets!!! they need to bring it stateside!!! lol but that would never happen!!
 

User49

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I can imagine that this would invite violence. The man would panic and probably hurt the women even more. I can't believe that we are going back to the days of chastity belts? Isn't there some other way they can figure this out? !
 

*Stargazer*

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Given that a woman can remove and insert this at will, the chastity belt comparisons are inaccurate at best.
 

User49

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Fair enough. But still. It just seems obvious that if a women does get raped wearing one of these things, the man is not going to just sit tight for a doctor to remove his penis from her. I mean, surely he'd try and beat her and get away? It just doesn't seem like a solution. Sort of like 'two wrongs dont make a right'.
 

*Stargazer*

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He's not going to need to have his penis removed. It doesn't prevent him from pulling out. It embeds itself in his penis when he pulls back to thrust. I'm guess the point is that the immense pain will possibly provide a window for the woman to escape.
 

ratmist

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I don't see how this device does anything to stop rape. Once the penetration has happened, the woman is being raped.

Once men in that region figure out that women may have this inside of her, all they have to do is start carrying a dildo-style weapon to get it out of the women first. All the publicity about this thing makes it that much easier for those men to be informed before they carry out the rape.

The point is, rape isn't about sex. It's about control and who has it. I think a woman is fooling herself if she thinks this is enough to tip the balance of control.

The real problem in South Africa is that it's very, very hard to prove rape in the courts. The population is riddled with myths or ignorance, including:

1. Having sex with a virgin will cure AIDS. This has lead to an increase in infant rape and child rape, one of the highest in the world.

2. A study by the Thohoyandou Victim Empowerment Programme found that a quarter of secondary school students said that forced sexual intercourse did not necessarily constitute rape.

3. The country's human rights commission found that some boys committed what they called "corrective rape" on lesbians, justifying the assault by claiming that it would make the victims heterosexual.

4. In 2001, in a report by South Africa's Police Service, children were the victims of 41 percent of all rapes and attempted rapes reported in the country. Over 15 percent of all reported rapes were against children under 11, and another 26 percent against children 12-17.

5. South African law uses a narrow definition of rape (penetration into the vagina only), and court procedure often requires the woman to prove that she did not provoke the rape. This usually means the defense team will go through the woman's sexual history in order to establish that she may have consented. In short, this means the victim is on trial, not the rapist.

6. The South African government seems to advocate the view that if you are a victim of rape, you fight back. The Rapex sheath seems to play into that notion. What is wrong about that notion? Well, not everyone *can* fight back. Some people go into a paralyzed kind of shock. Others are simply too scared. Does that mean they consented? Absolutely not. But in South Africa, that's extremely hard to prove in court.

In short, the rape crisis in South Africa is endemic. Unless the South African government under Mbeki, who has an extremely poor history of understanding HIV/AIDS let alone giving his people what they need to fight it, starts targeting the population for sex education, none of this will stop. It's so easy to claim that these rapists know what they're doing is wrong. What if they don't? What if they've been taught that it's okay to do this to a woman, that it's okay to "cure" a lesbian, it's okay to have sex with a child to get cured of AIDS?

I don't think this condom/sheath thing will stop anything either, but it may some women a fighting chance to get away, in certain circumstances. However, unless we're ready to fit this kind of thing to an infant, or a young girl, we still aren't coming close to protecting the majority of rape victims in that country.
 

Beauty Mark

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Quote:
Originally Posted by hotmodelchiq
This product is something that they really need over there! Hundreds of women and BABIES (a 7month old baby!!!!) are raped because witchdoctors tell men the cure to AIDS can be found by having sex with a virgin when really they're just spreading it. I read a news article where a 7 month old baby was raped to DEATH! This needs to stop and I feel like thats what the SOB gets!!! they need to bring it stateside!!! lol but that would never happen!!

What they need to do everywhere is raise men who aren't going to rape. If they're raping to cure AIDS, they need better AIDS education.

I have no problem with the idea of a rapist getting his penis stabbed with little barbs. I don't think it's a real solution
 

ratmist

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beauty Mark
What they need to do everywhere is raise men who aren't going to rape. If they're raping to cure AIDS, they need better AIDS education.

I have no problem with the idea of a rapist getting his penis stabbed with little barbs. I don't think it's a real solution


Even at the very top of the South African government, understanding of AIDS/HIV and women's rights is extremely poor. The Zuma trial in 2006 demonstrated this quite clearly.

The former deputy president, Jacob Zuma, was cleared of raping a woman whom he had been friends with for a long time, despite overwhelming evidence that he raped her.

He was once head of the South Africa's AIDS council. Zuma knew his victim was HIV-positive because she is a well-known AIDS activist, but he had unprotected sex with her anyway. He took a shower after the rape, saying at the trial that he felt the shower would lessen the chances of him getting HIV.

He also explained that he had no choice but to have unprotected sex, because in Zulu culture, he said, leaving a woman sexually aroused could be equated to rape itself. He knew she wanted sex, he said, because she came to his house wearing a skirt, and then said good night wearing nothing but a kanga - a traditional, full-length wrap.

The judge, van der Merwe, said he found the woman's actions inconsistent with those of a real rape victim because she didn't call anyone after the alleged attack and didn't shower. He didn't believe her account that she "froze" when she discovered Zuma assaulting her, despite court evidence from a psychiatrist saying this was a natural response for someone who'd been raped before - as the victim had been multiple times throughout in her childhood.

Zuma's still a favourite candidate to take over from Mbeki in 2009. *vomit*
 
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