She botched my hair.

luvsic

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Originally Posted by autumnschild
well in the picture her hair is the length they gave you. maybe she thought you wanted it exactly like the picture..as for me i'm scared to death of hairdressers. ever since like i took this really long time growing my hair out, i went to salon with a picture, and they ended up giving me a friggin scene mullet. it was the worst. i haven't had a haircut since now i just trim my own bangs..

yes, but it's not the style I really wanted. I wanted it exactly like the picture...and in that picture SJP doesn't have very many, if any, layers at all. She chopped so many layers into my hair it looks like almost a bob. As for me, I've been indifferent with hairdressers cause most of them haven't given me stellar cuts but not bad ones either. I have had few who really screwed up my hair. But when they have, THEY HAVE. It's frustrating to have your hair effed up thanks to non-qualified "maestros" who don't listen to your needs, as a lot of us can relate to...
 

luvsic

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The empathy is making me feel better...really, ladies :p thank you. Isn't it so frustrating when hairdressers just think they're the shit when their work is really...well, shit? It's the WORST when they just take scissors and exercise all talk and no action. One thing that was especially bad in the end was she teased my hair and gave me big texas hair at the crown. YETCH! My hands instinctively smoothed it down right after she finished...so I think she knew that I wasn't digging it.
 

sinergy

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you have to take into consideration your own hair texture when wanting an 'exact' look like someone elses. Did the stylist consult with you at all before the hair cut? thats usually when you get the length and style down and make sure that you both understand whats going to happen, now she is SUPPOSED to let you know if your hair will be able to style like that or not, and if the cut will lay the same on you. I mean seriously even if your hair isnt hard to manage not everyones will do everything, if that makes sense, also some styles do require heavier maintenance. I would call them and let them know your not happy with it, if nothing else maybe you can go in so someone can show you how to style it to get the best out of it for now. Your best bet wouldve been to let them know right then and there you werent happy tho.

Toni & Guy have their signature shaggy or disconnected layered cuts and I know they arent for everyone but can look real cute. I am trying to grow one out now, last april I got about 5 inches cut off and heavy layers and it was nice for awhile, but I got over having those short layers pretty fast, then I had to suck it up and let it grow out, now its kind of at an uneven stage, but at least its growing.
 

rachybloom

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Definitely go to Trader Joe's and get their Women's Formula Vitamins. You take them three times a day and it has a TON of Biotin in them which helps your hair grow faster. I'm so sorry this happened to you.. This is why I'll never switch stylists, I've found one who listens to what I say and doesn't do their own thing which is so damn annoying.
 

luvsic

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Originally Posted by sinergy
you have to take into consideration your own hair texture when wanting an 'exact' look like someone elses. Did the stylist consult with you at all before the hair cut? thats usually when you get the length and style down and make sure that you both understand whats going to happen, now she is SUPPOSED to let you know if your hair will be able to style like that or not, and if the cut will lay the same on you. I mean seriously even if your hair isnt hard to manage not everyones will do everything, if that makes sense, also some styles do require heavier maintenance. I would call them and let them know your not happy with it, if nothing else maybe you can go in so someone can show you how to style it to get the best out of it for now. Your best bet wouldve been to let them know right then and there you werent happy tho.

Toni & Guy have their signature shaggy or disconnected layered cuts and I know they arent for everyone but can look real cute. I am trying to grow one out now, last april I got about 5 inches cut off and heavy layers and it was nice for awhile, but I got over having those short layers pretty fast, then I had to suck it up and let it grow out, now its kind of at an uneven stage, but at least its growing.


Yes, she did, and she said it would look a lot like the picture. So I believed her. The thing was, I used to have long hair, and long layers (a bit past my chin), and what I described to her was to cut a similar look as just pulling back all my hair. Does that make sense? It looked really good when I just did that, and there weren't many layers in my hair when I did that, none shorter than my chin anyway. She didn't honor my "pull back hair" request at all, she just pretty much went scissor happy and cut a lot of short layers. I should have told her I didn't like it, but I didn't. I'm thinking of calling and complaining eventually.

Anyway, i'm just bitter. It's going to take forever to grow out.

That whole short layered look...yep, definitely not for me. Even though it was kind of a disaster haircut, I guess I just know not to go to them next time.
 

luvsic

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Originally Posted by rachybloom
Definitely go to Trader Joe's and get their Women's Formula Vitamins. You take them three times a day and it has a TON of Biotin in them which helps your hair grow faster. I'm so sorry this happened to you.. This is why I'll never switch stylists, I've found one who listens to what I say and doesn't do their own thing which is so damn annoying.

How fast are we talking, girl? I realize it's not going to make my hair go from my chin to the floor in a week lol, but about how much a month?
 

vocaltest

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i work in a hairdressers, and we appreciate it if people are unhappy (which is not very often) that they make us aware of that. there probably isn't a whole lot they can do, but you might get a free cut and blow dry out of it for next time. i know its scary, but just call and ask to speak to the manager, and just say i'm really unhappy with the way its been cut, its far too short, is there any way of resolving this situation, such as different ways to style it etc.

as for it growing, you can't tell. your hair will grow as fast as it wants to go. i know that sounds shit and very blunt, but its true. most peoples hair grows on average an inch a month. as for biotin as someone has mentioned, i've read that it can give you horrendous breakouts. i bet when you hair drops down an inch or so you will like it
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amyzon

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I've had some bad haircuts before, I can totally sympathize. I can also tell you that after about a week and a half, you're going to feel much more comfortable with it and learn how to work with your new style. The whole shock of your new length is going to go away, and your hair is going to settle a bit too. You also should consider visiting a different salon and seeing if they have some suggestions on fixing the layers or the cut itself to something you're more happy with. I know you're reluctant to lose more length, but if you're concerned about the way it looks, at least a better cut would grow out much more gracefully. You can complain to the original salon, but personally I wouldn't want to accept a free cut to a place whose services I wasn't pleased with in the first place. JMO.
 

luvsic

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Originally Posted by vocaltest
i work in a hairdressers, and we appreciate it if people are unhappy (which is not very often) that they make us aware of that. there probably isn't a whole lot they can do, but you might get a free cut and blow dry out of it for next time. i know its scary, but just call and ask to speak to the manager, and just say i'm really unhappy with the way its been cut, its far too short, is there any way of resolving this situation, such as different ways to style it etc.

as for it growing, you can't tell. your hair will grow as fast as it wants to go. i know that sounds shit and very blunt, but its true. most peoples hair grows on average an inch a month. as for biotin as someone has mentioned, i've read that it can give you horrendous breakouts. i bet when you hair drops down an inch or so you will like it
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Thanks girl! your advice was really helpful....I am glad to hear that hair will grow about an inch a month..I heard that it usually grows a half inch a month, but I guess it really depends on your hair. I think I am going to start eating better and having a healthier diet..I don't know if I want to invest in Biotin, maybe i will just amp up the vitamin B (that's what it mostly is, right o_O) I think when it grows out a few inches, it'll look fine...and when it grows back to the length it was before I'll be happier too.

Oh, and for now I've resolved with a mini-pouf at the top of my head for daily wear...at least until it grows out a little better. If I let it fall naturally, the side-sweep makes the haircut literally look manly, so this is a more feminine, cute and spunky alternative for now. I think now I will call in and explain to the manager how I didn't like it.
 

luvsic

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thanks amyzon. Yeah I won't be going back to T&G. They're just not for me. :p ... I think I found a good one actually, I am going to check her out. She's been doing hair for 20 years so she knows a lot about it. Hope it works out for the better this time.
 

ruthless

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Breathe deeply, reach for a headband.

I'm never really happy with haircuts until they've grown out a bit. Chances are she was trying to impress you with her mastery of layers...

By all means let her know you're unhappy with the end result, but just remember to be reasonable about it.

Hair dressers aren't mind readers, it's up to us to keep an eye on the process-I often stop new stylsts and ask them what they are doing, or re confirm what I want during the cut.

That being said I'm sorry you ended up with something that you don't feel pretty in-hope it grows out fast for you!
 

vocaltest

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Originally Posted by luvsic
Thanks girl! your advice was really helpful....I am glad to hear that hair will grow about an inch a month..I heard that it usually grows a half inch a month, but I guess it really depends on your hair. I think I am going to start eating better and having a healthier diet..I don't know if I want to invest in Biotin, maybe i will just amp up the vitamin B (that's what it mostly is, right o_O) I think when it grows out a few inches, it'll look fine...and when it grows back to the length it was before I'll be happier too.

Oh, and for now I've resolved with a mini-pouf at the top of my head for daily wear...at least until it grows out a little better. If I let it fall naturally, the side-sweep makes the haircut literally look manly, so this is a more feminine, cute and spunky alternative for now. I think now I will call in and explain to the manager how I didn't like it.


Thats okay
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Did you call in the end?
I hate Toni & Guy. I wouldn't say all their stylists are bad, as there's a reason why they're one of the leading hairdressing salon chains in the world, but I do think they're overpriced. I also think their training is far too quick which might be a reason as to why so many people have had bad experiences there. Then again... you could argue that as they're a worldwide chain, there will be more people going to them, therefore the higher chances/reports of bad experiences!
 

luvsic

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Originally Posted by vocaltest
Thats okay
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Did you call in the end?
I hate Toni & Guy. I wouldn't say all their stylists are bad, as there's a reason why they're one of the leading hairdressing salon chains in the world, but I do think they're overpriced. I also think their training is far too quick which might be a reason as to why so many people have had bad experiences there. Then again... you could argue that as they're a worldwide chain, there will be more people going to them, therefore the higher chances/reports of bad experiences!


Before work today, I went in and complained, actually. I told the manager just this: I was overwhelmed at first when I saw my hair so I just said I liked it/loved it, but after I slept on it for a few days it became very apparent how I was unhappy with it. I said she didn't follow the picture I gave her at all and cut too many layers. The manager was actually extremely nice, and offered to set me up with a consultation with her top stylist (who has won awards on her hair) so I can just get her advice on what I can do with it, and fix it if I want. I unfortunately don't want to even look at a pair of scissors for a while, she layered my hair so much I don't think there's anything more the top stylist can do at the moment without whacking it up to my ears. But at least maybe some advice and styling tips can help me deal with it in the mean time.

Hmm, out of curiosity, what do you know about T&G? I heard from a co-worker they only know how to do like 5 haircuts...and that's it. I also went to a level 1 hair dresser and it already cost me 44 dollars, plus tip, so I gave her 50 pretty much. She said she had been working there for about 3 years now, but honestly, she was only 19 so I had a difficult time trusting her eye for hair. It did happen to be a disaster, but at least they are trying to comphensate for it. I'll update this post when I go to the appointment on Wed.
 

caffn8me

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Thanks for the update and well done for going back. It will be interesting to see what their top stylist says. I hope you get some really useful ideas from the meeting.
 

luvsic

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Thanks for the update and well done for going back. It will be interesting to see what their top stylist says. I hope you get some really useful ideas from the meeting.

Thanks!! I really hope the stylist gives me decent advice. I will be sure to update again once I finish seeing her!
 

vocaltest

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Originally Posted by luvsic
Before work today, I went in and complained, actually. I told the manager just this: I was overwhelmed at first when I saw my hair so I just said I liked it/loved it, but after I slept on it for a few days it became very apparent how I was unhappy with it. I said she didn't follow the picture I gave her at all and cut too many layers. The manager was actually extremely nice, and offered to set me up with a consultation with her top stylist (who has one awards on her hair) so I can just get her advice on what I can do with it, and fix it if I want. I unfortunately don't want to even look at a pair of scissors for a while, she layered my hair so much I don't think there's anything more the top stylist can do at the moment without whacking it up to my ears. But at least maybe some advice and styling tips can help me deal with it in the mean time.

Hmm, out of curiosity, what do you know about T&G? I heard from a co-worker they only know how to do like 5 haircuts...and that's it. I also went to a level 1 hair dresser and it already cost me 44 dollars, plus tip, so I gave her 50 pretty much. She said she had been working there for about 3 years now, but honestly, she was only 19 (my age) so I had a difficult time trusting her eye for hair. It did happen to be a disaster, but at least they are trying to comphensate for it. I'll update this post when I go to the appointment on Wed.


See! Told you they'd be nice
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I'm glad its getting resolved. Well, as much as it can be!
I don't really know a great deal about them but I know that their training period is incredibly short. A friend of mine worked there for about a year and within 5 months she was 'qualified'. Even she herself didn't feel qualified. The trainee's at my work train for 18 months-1 year, and even then when they qualify they have to complete their NVQ3 and might not be on the salon floor full time.
The 5 hair cut thing isn't true. If you put it broadly, essentially every hair is a bob cut to start with, and then the final cut is worked from there. When you train to be a hairdresser, you're not taught 'this is how you cut a style like jennifer anistons hairstyle', you're taught sectioning and how to work with it from there etc. You are taught how to specific cuts such as graduated bobs etc though. I don't know how the US hairdressing training is taught and what the exact specifications of the qualification are, but here to become a qualified hairdresser you do an NVQ2, which more or less to put it bluntly teaches you the basics - cutting, colouring, highlighting, colour theory, reception practises, blow drying, styling, products, perming etc. You aren't taught the more complicated things unless you do your NVQ3 where they teach you things such as 'chipping into', 'thinning out' etc. As the stylist you had is relatively young it wouldn't surprise me if she was fairly recently qualified and may not have known the 'mechanics' as it were of layering hair!
 

mochabean

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Hope you are able to get your haircut fixed.

I HATE it when I bring in a picture and specifically state this is how I want my hair to look like, then they don't follow it. But this practice happens a lot.

I can sympathize with you girl! I think each of us on Specktra has had some kind of hair drama! I used to have long hair past my butt and wanted to go in to get a layered bob/boy haircut (that was in fashion many many years ago) When I got my haircut and the girl cut off a huge chunk of hair in the back where it was supposed to be layered. I never once noticed it b/c when she styled it, she put so much product in my hair and covered the big hole where the hair was supposed to be. But I went back the next day and demanded my refund and have someone else fixed it. They did fix it, but after that experience I told myself I was going to find myself a good hair stylist and stick to her.

The stylist I go to now I've been going to her for 5 years now. I'm extremely picky with my hair. I have the typical asian hair that is very coarse and dry. So I needed someone that knew how to cut my type of hair. The good stylists out there will offer free consultations. I highly suggest you go to them and talk to the stylist one on one to discuss your hair and how you want it cut. If they have any portfolios of their work, they usually show it to you. I have to travel almost an hour just to see my hair stylist, but it is SO WORTH it. I would never go to anyone else or have another person touch my hair! LOL! Heck, if she moved, I'd probably follow her! Just kidding.
 

luvsic

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UPDATE: it's fixed!

Hey everyone,

I want to thank you for your support and input. Fortunately, I went to my hair appointment today and the stylist fixed my hair...it looks pretty decent right now, not exactly what I wanted, but I am happy about it and I made sure I told her. It looks very much like the picture now
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Now I want to enjoy this hair style while I still have it before I grow it out again! I have in mind what kind of style I want next time and it's pretty!

Thank you again you guys!

vocaltest, thanks for your information! it was very useful.

And Mochabean, lol, on the contrary I have really course and frizzy Asian hair. Over the years it has become softer and straighter, but not pretty and sleek like you imagine typical Asian hair to be...It's good that you found a good stylist though!
 

aleksis210

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I don't have any advice, but I thought I'd share a little story that will hopefully make you feel better.

About 2 years ago I wanted victoria beckham's new bob..My hair started out very long maybe 3-4 inches past my shoulders blades and blonde (it was very healthy too!) I brought in ohhh I don't know maybe 4 pictures of the cut from all angles. I asked her very sternly "Are you sure you're going to be able to do the cut?" she was VERY confident, well the front ended up being about an inch ABOVE my chin and the back was butchered...it looked like a man's haircut ...she cut the layers all the way up to the crown..I basically had a 50 year old man's haircut but with a few longer pieces in the front on top of that the color was HORRIBLE it was like blotchy/ashy brown when I specifically wanted a "deep mocha" brown...I mean I would have done a much better job with no experience..I was kind of in shock the first day, but the next day I was devasted...I think I cried for a week and I do not cry easily, to tolerate the cut I took the front pieces and kind of combed them behind my ears so that it just looked like a normal pixie cut, oh and I re-dyed it myself and the color was awesome..

It finally grew out to about an inch past my shoulders maybe like 8 months to a year later..well I went to a different girl to get it back blonde and she turned my hair YELLOW... like canary yellow(and my har is already naturally blonde mind you...)...I told this girl exactly what I wanted as well and again I was not listened too...SO I basically took all my anger out on this girl and told her she needed a new job because she sucked at doing hair and I was going to make sure that EVERYONE knew about it.

So my hair is finally long...about right past my shoulder blades and a normal colored blonde (thanks to me!). Basically I feel your pain...I was traumatized and seriously now have a complex about going to the salon. I just don't understand how someone can go to school, work for a few years, have a picture be brought in for them and STILL suck...and get HIRED somewhere on top of that! Your hair will take time to grow out, but trust me it will grow back! My hair probably took a year to grow to this length, but yours may take less as it's probably not nearly as short as mine was....feel better!
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oh and p.s. both of the girls I mentioned had only been working for 3 years and were very young as well so maybe that'll be a red flag for next time! lol
 

caffn8me

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Thanks for the update. I'm really pleased that everything worked out for you in the end and that you've got the style you want - awasome!
 
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