The Dupe Thread: If you have... you don't really need...

[Twinkle_Twinkle]

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Originally Posted by just_a_bubble Hello guys!! I am a newbie here and I really want to know: If you have an msf (I have Soft and Gentle) do you really need a ccb (I am thinking about getting Shell)? I know that they are different textures and I know they swatch differently on the hand, but I would like to know, what is the job that any ccb can do more than an msf concerning only the finish it gives to the face? It may be a dump question, but you guys be soft and gentle with me, I know really really little things about make-up...!

It would depend on how you plan to use the CCB. I don't wear CCB's on my face, only on my eyes so I would (and do) have both CCB's and MSF's. I can't really compare Shell and Soft & Gentle color wise though.

 

[Twinkle_Twinkle]

Anyone seen this yet?

http://temptalia.com/thedupelist.htm

I like that you can rate percentage wise how similar/different the shades are and then note what the differences are. And apparently users can rate how similar they think a dupe suggestion is which is a great idea considering people's opinions on what looks similar seem to vary so drastically.

 

[Cleopatruh]

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Originally Posted by kathryn27 If I have VG Gaga l/s, do I need Creme Cup or Snob?

Gaga is more blue pink, and Snob is warmer.

 

[Shadowy Lady]

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Originally Posted by kathryn27 If I have VG Gaga l/s, do I need Creme Cup or Snob?

you prob wouldn't need Snob, though Cream Cup is very different.

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Originally Posted by FiestyFemme I guess it depends on skintone, but Creme Cup is still pink on me, nowhere close to nude. It's definitely way more neutral & wearable than Gaga though. Gaga is so blue-based that it's often hard to pull off on my very yellow-toned skin.

Cream Cup is pink on me too, like a neutral light pink but def far from nude. I think it prob be nude on dark skintones. Gaga and Snob were similar enough on me too pass Gaga.

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Originally Posted by Cleopatruh Gaga is more blue pink, and Snob is warmer.

Snob doesn't look warm on me at all, just slightly more purple than Gaga and also more opaque texture. Gaga is like a cross between Pink Nouveau and St Germain to me.

 

[abb]

I'm trying to become a blush minimalist, so I'm wondering...if I have Nars Deep Throat, do I really need this Stereo Rose?? I really want one of these MSFs that's about to be released and I'm wondering if those two are different enough to justify getting this... Thanks!

 

[equus18]

They may look different in the pans but they look the same or very similar on my skin tone NC35.

young punk vs. beauty marked vs. limo
carbon vs. black gold
mutiny pigment vs. aquadisiac vs. steamy vs. zonk bleu! vs. too dolly
clarity vs. electric eel
stars n' rockets vs. creme de violet vs. romping
blackberry vs. fig 1 vs. nocturnelle
grape pigment vs. entremauve pigment
passionate vs. sushi flower vs. trophy pink
violet pigment vs. parfait amour vs. stylin' vs. modern heir
fuchsia vs. red accent pigment vs. bright fuchsia pigment
meet the fleet vs. contrast vs. formal black
ambers light vs. valet vs. falling star vs. coppering
melon pigment vs. pink bronze
club vs. mulch vs. chocolate brown pigment vs. coco pigment
fine shine vs. silver fog
vex vs. silverware
embark vs. shadowy lady
teal pigment vs. a bluer blue
illegal cargo vs. buff-de-buff
gorgeous gold vs. gold mine vs. golden lemon pigment vs. old gold pigment

 

[Kirsty]

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Originally Posted by equus18 They may look different in the pans but they look the same or very similar on my skin tone NC35. young punk vs. beauty marked vs. woodwinked

I'm not sure you meant Woodwinked as this is a neutral bronze/copper colour. The other 2 are black/dark purple with purple sparkles.

 

[equus18]

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Originally Posted by Kirsty I'm not sure you meant Woodwinked as this is a neutral bronze/copper colour. The other 2 are black/dark purple with purple sparkles.

Thanks for pointing this out. I meant Limo, not Woodwinked. It's from the 2006 Holiday Collection Lace Warm Eyes. I did not have my reading glasses on and had a difficult time reading the name.

 

[Twinkle_Twinkle]

I am confused. When you say A vs. B vs. C vs. D, are you comparing all those colors together? Like Club = Mulch. Mulch = Chocolate Brown Pigment. CB piggie = Coco piggie therefore Club = Coco and every combination in between?

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Originally Posted by equus18 They may look different in the pans but they look the same or very similar on my skin tone NC35. young punk vs. beauty marked vs. limo carbon vs. black gold mutiny pigment vs. aquadisiac vs. steamy vs. zonk bleu! vs. too dolly clarity vs. electric eel stars n' rockets vs. creme de violet vs. romping blackberry vs. fig 1 vs. nocturnelle grape pigment vs. entremauve pigment passionate vs. sushi flower vs. trophy pink violet pigment vs. parfait amour vs. stylin' vs. modern heir fuchsia vs. red accent pigment vs. bright fuchsia pigment meet the fleet vs. contrast vs. formal black ambers light vs. valet vs. falling star vs. coppering melon pigment vs. pink bronze club vs. mulch vs. chocolate brown pigment vs. coco pigment fine shine vs. silver fog vex vs. silverware embark vs. shadowy lady teal pigment vs. a bluer blue illegal cargo vs. buff-de-buff gorgeous gold vs. gold mine vs. golden lemon pigment vs. old gold pigment

 

[Twinkle_Twinkle]

I don't have every shade that you mentioned but I have quite a few; I'm NW45, however these swatches are on the underside of my arm, which is noticeably lighter than my face.

Beauty Marked vs. Young Punk

Suspicion (the re-promoted name of Black Gold) vs. Carbon

Mutiny vs. Aquadisiac vs. Zonk Bleu!

Stars 'N Rockets vs. Creme de Violet vs. Romping

Passionate vs. Sushi Flower

Deep Truth (popularly considered a dupe for Meet the Fleet; I didn't purchase it because of the similarities) vs. Contrast

Amber Lights vs. Coppering

Gorgeous Gold vs. Goldmine vs. Golden Lemon

Club vs. Mulch vs. Chocolate Brown
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Originally Posted by equus18 They may look different in the pans but they look the same or very similar on my skin tone NC35. young punk vs. beauty marked vs. limo carbon vs. black gold mutiny pigment vs. aquadisiac vs. steamy vs. zonk bleu! vs. too dolly clarity vs. electric eel stars n' rockets vs. creme de violet vs. romping blackberry vs. fig 1 vs. nocturnelle grape pigment vs. entremauve pigment passionate vs. sushi flower vs. trophy pink violet pigment vs. parfait amour vs. stylin' vs. modern heir fuchsia vs. red accent pigment vs. bright fuchsia pigment meet the fleet vs. contrast vs. formal black ambers light vs. valet vs. falling star vs. coppering melon pigment vs. pink bronze club vs. mulch vs. chocolate brown pigment vs. coco pigment fine shine vs. silver fog vex vs. silverware embark vs. shadowy lady teal pigment vs. a bluer blue illegal cargo vs. buff-de-buff gorgeous gold vs. gold mine vs. golden lemon pigment vs. old gold pigment

Can I say something? In my personal life I have a know-it-all aspect to my personality that I am trying to repress, I'll admit that. I also know that shades really DO look different on different skin tones; we have all seen it, especially duochrome shades (or pigmented lips vs. sheer lip products). There are some colors that are dupes on persons of a certain skin tone that are not on folks of the opposite end of the spectrum. Additionally, there are a lot of color purists, who notice the minutest difference in shades, and that to them makes shades not dupes it their opinion. So Sally will say something is a dupe while Molly notices the teeniest hint of blue reflect while Mary who is several shades darker sees a different color altogether. It's the way it is, however, some of these suggestions are just. not. close. Alec Wek and Nicole Kidman would agree that these shades are not dupes. I am not referring to anyone one poster or suggestion and I really am not trying to offend, (I seriously am not, especially because all of this is relative to an extent) but I feel like (especially in terms of eye colors) this thread is bordering on not useful.

 

[ZoZo]

I found that NYX Cafe Slim Eye Pencil is an exact dupe for UD Lucky 24/7 Glide-On Eye Pencil but without the small glitter.

 

[s_lost]

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Originally Posted by Cleopatruh IMO If you have Viva Glam Gaga, you don't need Real Doll, Melrose Mood, or Saint Germain. That being said, I have all four because I am a dork.

I'd love to get my hand on Melrose Mood!

I've Gaga and Saint Germain, and they look different on me. SG is amazing, but Gaga is much more wearable.

 

[equus18]

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Originally Posted by Twinkle_Twinkle I don't have every shade that you mentioned but I have quite a few; I'm NW45, however these swatches are on the underside of my arm, which is noticeably lighter than my face. Can I say something? In my personal life I have a know-it-all aspect to my personality that I am trying to repress, I'll admit that. I also know that shades really DO look different on different skin tones; we have all seen it, especially duochrome shades (or pigmented lips vs. sheer lip products). There are some colors that are dupes on persons of a certain skin tone that are not on folks of the opposite end of the spectrum. Additionally, there are a lot of color purists, who notice the minutest difference in shades, and that to them makes shades not dupes it their opinion. So Sally will say something is a dupe while Molly notices the teeniest hint of blue reflect while Mary who is several shades darker sees a different color altogether. It's the way it is, however, some of these suggestions are just. not. close. Alec Wek and Nicole Kidman would agree that these shades are not dupes. I am not referring to anyone one poster or suggestion and I really am not trying to offend, (I seriously am not, especially because all of this is relative to an extent) but I feel like (especially in terms of eye colors) this thread is bordering on not useful.

Your skintone is much darker than mine, even the underside of your arm. These shades appear beautifully more pigmented on you than on my skin tone which I stated as NC35 (with Asian yellow undertone). So you are right, it's different on everyone. To get the pigmentation as bold as yours, I would have to use paint pots or sticks. So again, I am NC35 so perhaps this would be a dupe comparison for NC35 people.

Now on my skin, these colors that I compared are close enough that when I blend them with something else on my eyelids they look the same. So for me, I don't want to be holding onto "dupes" if they're all the same or even similar "to me" because they're taking up space in my palettes. In my original post, I did say that they look same or SIMILAR.

I just wanted to be helpful and thought I had something to contribute to this thread for NC35 people LOL

 

[equus18]

Can I say something? In my personal life I have a know-it-all aspect to my personality that I am trying to repress, I'll admit that. I also know that shades really DO look different on different skin tones; we have all seen it, especially duochrome shades (or pigmented lips vs. sheer lip products). There are some colors that are dupes on persons of a certain skin tone that are not on folks of the opposite end of the spectrum. Additionally, there are a lot of color purists, who notice the minutest difference in shades, and that to them makes shades not dupes it their opinion. So Sally will say something is a dupe while Molly notices the teeniest hint of blue reflect while Mary who is several shades darker sees a different color altogether. It's the way it is, however, some of these suggestions are just. not. close. Alec Wek and Nicole Kidman would agree that these shades are not dupes. I am not referring to anyone one poster or suggestion and I really am not trying to offend, (I seriously am not, especially because all of this is relative to an extent) but I feel like (especially in terms of eye colors) this thread is bordering on not useful.[/quote]

So are you saying that this WHOLE dupe thread is un-useful or just my contribution to it because you quoted me?

 

[Twinkle_Twinkle]

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Originally Posted by equus18 Can I say something? In my personal life I have a know-it-all aspect to my personality that I am trying to repress, I'll admit that. I also know that shades really DO look different on different skin tones; we have all seen it, especially duochrome shades (or pigmented lips vs. sheer lip products). There are some colors that are dupes on persons of a certain skin tone that are not on folks of the opposite end of the spectrum. Additionally, there are a lot of color purists, who notice the minutest difference in shades, and that to them makes shades not dupes it their opinion. So Sally will say something is a dupe while Molly notices the teeniest hint of blue reflect while Mary who is several shades darker sees a different color altogether. It's the way it is, however, some of these suggestions are just. not. close. Alec Wek and Nicole Kidman would agree that these shades are not dupes. I am not referring to anyone one poster or suggestion and I really am not trying to offend, (I seriously am not, especially because all of this is relative to an extent) but I feel like (especially in terms of eye colors) this thread is bordering on not useful.

So are you saying that this WHOLE dupe thread is un-useful or just my contribution to it because you quoted me?[/quote]

Oh this was so not directed at you per say. I just quoted your post because I already had the photos in reply to your post and there was no need to start another post. I thought about posting those thoughts before actually.
And honestly some of those shades were more similar than I thought previous to swatching them (like Mulch and Chocolate Brown pigment, and I don't own Old Gold but I know it's similar to Gorgeous Gold which leans more green than the former, etc). There are a lot of posts throughout this thread that I think have people scratching their heads. And to be honest, I don't pay any attention to the lip product posts because I don't wear enough lip products to be helpful in that department. I am sorry if you took offence

At the end of the day we are all just makeup feigning friends here

 

[equus18]

Originally posted by Twinkle_Twinkle:
"And honestly some of those shades were more similar than I thought previous to swatching them (like Mulch and Chocolate Brown pigment, and I don't own Old Gold but I know it's similar to Gorgeous Gold which leans more green than the former, etc). There are a lot of posts throughout this thread that I think have people scratching their heads. And to be honest, I don't pay any attention to the lip product posts because I don't wear enough lip products to be helpful in that department. I am sorry if you took offence

At the end of the day we are all just makeup feigning friends here

"

This is why I did not want to post photos because even if I did, people would still come forward, like you, to disagree. I will state again, that I said my skin tone is NC35 on my post and those were my results based on that. So even if I posted photos, they would or would not help depending on your skin tone. Just take everything with a grain of salt. No need to say this thread is un-useful. Like you said, we're all "makeup feigning friends" having fun but you take out the fun

when you say what we took the time to post is un-useful.

 

[Twinkle_Twinkle]

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Originally Posted by equus18 Originally posted by Twinkle_Twinkle: "And honestly some of those shades were more similar than I thought previous to swatching them (like Mulch and Chocolate Brown pigment, and I don't own Old Gold but I know it's similar to Gorgeous Gold which leans more green than the former, etc). There are a lot of posts throughout this thread that I think have people scratching their heads. And to be honest, I don't pay any attention to the lip product posts because I don't wear enough lip products to be helpful in that department. I am sorry if you took offence At the end of the day we are all just makeup feigning friends here " This is why I did not want to post photos because even if I did, people would still come forward, like you, to disagree. I will state again, that I said my skin tone is NC35 on my post and those were my results based on that. So even if I posted photos, they would or would not help depending on your skin tone. Just take everything with a grain of salt. No need to say this thread is un-useful. Like you said, we're all "makeup feigning friends" having fun but you take out the fun when you say what we took the time to post is un-useful.

I didn't say your post was un-useful. I said the thread was bordering on un-useful, and I actually think that taking pictures of the products you consider to be dupes would strengthen your position because then people would have something to see and compare to. I understand that you are NC35 and I am NW45 and those are two different shades, but I personally don't think some of those comparisons are dupes even on a sheet of Zerox paper or a sheet of black construction paper, and that is no offense to you or anyone else in here. Ultimately hue is in the eye of the beholder and regardless of skin tone differences some people are going to see similarities that others don't and vise versa. Also, I've been participating in this thread for years and have seen loads of what I would consider to be inaccurate comparisons so it isn't directed at you specifically, it's a general observation. Please don't cry. But I do think uploading photos helps, not hurts the thread. And as Forrest Gump would say, "That's all I have to say about that."

 

[geeko]

Amber lights e/s and Casino e/s are VERY VERY close to each other.

So if u have one, u dun need the other although the textures are diff

 

[geeko]

anyway here's my swatches

 

[elektra513]

Geeko, these are very helpful. What is your skin tone?