To those who want to work for MAC...

lilchocolatema

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Hey everyone,

I just thought that I would let all of you MAC hopefuls know a bit about the business that you want to work for. I was just like all of you, going into the store and knowing that I could do it, knowing all of the products, owning most of it, knowing all of the makeup artists. But there are some things that I didn't know that I wish I had BEFORE I got hired.

1. Expanding Sales-There are so many times that a customer comes in and only wants a lipstick or a lipgloss. I have to introduce them to lip conditioner, 2 to 3 lipsticks, 2 lipliners and clear gloss, just to try to maximize the sale. Then, I'll ask if they have a blush to go with it. Although you do not have to sell $50 a transaction anymore, you still have to make your sales goal. Customers should not walk out with only 1 product.

2.Explaining- While demonstrating, explain everything. Tell the customer that you are using Bare Canvas paint over the lid with the 217 brush. This will prevent creasing and prolong shadow wear. Then, tell them you are applying improper copper CCB with the 249, which is best used for emollient products, etc. Next, apply the base color with the 252. etc The more you explain, the more they know they need it, the more they buy, thus you make your goal!
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3. Viva Glam-This collection needs to be your last name. Tell everone about it. Sing its praises. Try it on everyone. At my store, it's really the only thing that we keep track of. I keep a personal goal of selling 10 every shift.

4. Foundations-uh, I hate matching foundations! My first few days, I just prayed that nobody asked for them! Always ask what your customer wants their skin to look and feel like. This will determine what cleanser, and moisturizer that they need. Always partner up products! For most looks, I'll always use studio moisture fix, strobe cream, oil control lotion (in the T-Zone if they are oily), and fix+. This is a great way to maximize a sale! Certain foundations change color on people. Using 2 foundations on people is common. Using 2 concealors on people is common. If it takes you 10 minutes to prep the skin and finish with the foundation, that is common. Foundations...I could go on forever....

This is just some of the stuff that I wish I thought about before I worked for MAC. I've been with the company for 7 months now, and I learn something everyday. There is so much more, but I can't think of anything else right now lol. If anybody wants to add anything, post it!
Hope some of this helps!
 

GreekChick

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I also would like to add that making sure a makeup appointment stays within the one-hour limit is EXTREMELY important. Generally, it's 45 minutes for the makeup, plus 15 minutes for the face chart you will hand the client. So, if it takes more than an hour to do an immaculate makeup application, after some time, they will approach you about it. Generally, around the holidays, appointments are reduced to 30 minutes. It's an enormous rush!
Plus, it's not just hanging around the counter, waiting for a customer. It's not only about artistry either. It's also proving that you can keep the counter clean at all times, swiping each lipstick, doing schematics (where each product should go...ex: Steamy eyeshadow does have it's place on the display
), doing the "out of stock" list every sunday, etc... This is what your manager will look at when you are left alone at the counter, or when you aren't applying makeup on someone. Laziness will get the boot after a while.
Also, it's really important to look groomed at ALL times. Some people just become sloppy after a while, with their clothes, and the makeup they have on themselves. Again, your manager will approach you about this.
 

NikkiHorror

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Yeah, you both are right. The girls that worked for MAC at my old store were constantly on their toes, whether they were busy with customers or not. And, they were ALWAYS cleaning.

"Layering" as we called it at Smashbox, or trying to marry as many products together as possible is very important to bring up your sales, unless the customer flat out says "no, i dont need anything else" in a stubbron tone. You want them to be able to trust you, not feel over-sold to. There is a fine line between being pushy and showing your client all her options. Just remember to smile!
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One thing I'd like to add for those of you that are applying at MAC is your portfolio. As I've been making the rounds to different stores and counters, I have a feeling that they won't even really consider you as a serious applicant unless you can provide them with proof of your skills through an impressive resume and portfolio before your verbal and demo interviews. They get so many applications every day, I think you really have to stand out in order to get any attention.

Any thoughts from MAC artists on this?
 

MisStarrlight

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Yes, definitely-sit everyone down...If they just want a foundation-you can upsell that to over $100 without even trying....cleanser, moisturzer, eye cream, concealer, foundation, powder, fix +, BRUSHES.
Sell those brushes. They will up your numbers so quickly. Tell people that they are an investment, but worth it because of....(insert 1-3 of the 80 reasons here)....It will help some of the sticker shock of some customers.

Also, as it's been implied...MAC is not as glorious as everyone thinks. Yes, it is the best job I've ever had, but it's also probably one of the most draining. Even if there are no customers, you are expected to always be working and to always be looking your best. You will be judged every second of the day, by everyone you come in contact with...from your manager, to co workers, to customers, etc. so keep your appearrance and attitude up.


As far as the portfolio goes-almost no one that I know that works for MAC has a portfolio. I didn't have one when I initially got hired, but I did when I got hired on as permanent...but I know for a fact that it had absolutely no weight in my hiring decision.
That being said, it is always beneficial to have your application stand out, so it will help to have a book, but it is not completely necessary.
 

lilchocolatema

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Originally Posted by MisStarrlight
Also, as it's been implied...MAC is not as glorious as everyone thinks. Yes, it is the best job I've ever had, but it's also probably one of the most draining. Even if there are no customers, you are expected to always be working and to always be looking your best. You will be judged every second of the day, by everyone you come in contact with...from your manager, to co workers, to customers, etc. so keep your appearrance and attitude up.

YES! I constantly wear the same pair of little black ballerina flats to work all the time. I happened to be talking to my trainer about going to the club that night, and mentioned I'd be wearing stilletto's. To make a long story short, she said: You HAVE TO look the part.
you need to be in heels. you work for MAC. Get it together.
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During off time, busy work is thrown on you. Lots of people don't know that face charts are mandatory! They are to be done for every collection. Restocking takes forever, but it has to be done! Cleaning, SCHEMATICS (sp?)
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, cleaning inbetween the lipsticks and eyeshadows, cleaning the mirrors, all that little stuff! Yikes!
 

redambition

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Originally Posted by lilchocolatema
YES! I constantly wear the same pair of little black ballerina flats to work all the time. I happened to be talking to my trainer about going to the club that night, and mentioned I'd be wearing stilletto's. To make a long story short, she said: You HAVE TO look the part.
you need to be in heels. you work for MAC. Get it together.
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that can't be right. if it is
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firstly, i would hope that the cannot force you to wear heels... as many people don't like them, and some can't wear them (due to back problems etc). at my local counter there's a mix of heels and flats... and i've seen the MAC Artists on here mention that they wear flats, especially for their long shifts.

Have you considered asking your manager? It is so, so bad to be wearing heels when you need to stand for a long time.
 

lara

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Originally Posted by redambition
that can't be right. if it is
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firstly, i would hope that the cannot force you to wear heels... as many people don't like them, and some can't wear them (due to back problems etc). at my local counter there's a mix of heels and flats... and i've seen the MAC Artists on here mention that they wear flats, especially for their long shifts.

Have you considered asking your manager? It is so, so bad to be wearing heels when you need to stand for a long time.


Kitten heels for shifts under five hours, flats for open-to-close shifts. Personally, I wear Chucks and to hell with it - comfort and street style merged together. The only people I've ever seen wear high heels are the Benefit girls, and that's only because they have chairs behind the counter that they're allowed to use.

Given that ballet flats are so endlessly stylish, anyone who says heels are more with it needs LOLing at.
 

MisStarrlight

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Yeah, since ballet flats are in style we can wear them now, but last year (when they weren't so accepted) we had to wear at least a kitten heel.

I have terrible feet & the floors at my store for some reason are extra hard. That combo means that I can't stand in heels for more than a few hours-regardless of the height...so I start off my shift in heels & at break I switch into my flats.
 

ms.marymac

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That floor is murder. I have so many shoes I considered comfortable until I wore them for a shift. When your feet hurt it makes you miserable, and when you are miserable, you have a bad day.

What can I add?

Because everybody has a goal, sometimes there might be a co-worker that will grab every person that walks in before you can even open your mouth to speak. They do not work as a team. As annoying as it is, do not trip them.

You are expected to multi-task at all times. If it's slow and you are doing a demo on someone, you need to be sure other customers are being taken of as well. If you are doing a makeover when it's slammed...same thing. Even if your co-workers are working the floor, keep an eye out. Work as a team player and it goes MUCH more smoothly.

Being put together at all times also includes your facial expressions. Remember you work around a bunch of mirrors. You don't want a feisty customer to see you rolling your eyes or telling them to eff off.
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Speaking of mirrors, you can't primp at the counter.

I'm sure I will think of more!
 

whitnie

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by the way, thank you all so much for posting this useful info everyone! this is the type of in depth stuff that I've been looking for!
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FacesbyNiki

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I think what Lilchocolatema was saying about the shoe thing is that, our trainer (we are in the same region, hell we work across the street from each other. LOL) is saying to always be on point and stylish. Not to wear heels like her (she can wear them and not flitch. LOL) but to always be trendy. I have to find me a pair of kitten heels that will look cute. I have flat feet and our floors at Nordstrom are so hard.
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~LadyLocks~

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Thanks for all the tips ladies...I'll definitely keep all this in mind being that I'm an aspiring MAC artist. I think I'm finally going to do it and apply at the counter closes to where I'm moving to, I'd say by next month. Wish me luck!!!!!
 

giz2000

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I wear wedge heels similar to these:

http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/22168475/c/3.html

(the wedge cushions those ultra hard floors really well), and ballet flats to work all the time. I cannot stand for 4 hours in stilettos...oh hell no!

As far as maximizing sales, ALWAYS use brushes to apply foundation (I use the foundation brush to apply and the 187 to buff...and I usually end up selling both, along with the foundation). Yes, MAC is a great job, but it's not as glamourous as it appears...
 

MisStarrlight

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Yes! Wedges & Platforms are definitely the most comfortable of them all...I have yet to find an "everyday" pair though-something cute for my massive feet-that are along the price-range of Payless, of course ;-)

And ms.marymac...good point about the mirrors!
 

littlemakeupboy

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i agree with some of the stuff,but lately it's become alot less stressful for me,now that those certain a and i words are out of the picture,I feel like I can give better customer service,and not push people or just want to walk away one a person only wants one item,I really have no problem making my goal,because I feel more confident selling products and not trying to cram them down a person's throat,When I'm with a customer I take my time and help them,if they can only buy thing at a time then I'll through some samples in also that they will like,showing them that i care,not some sleezy trick to get them coming back,usually it does result in that but its followed by a thank you for the sample last time,i liked the product i would like to get the full thing now
 

giz2000

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Originally Posted by littlemakeupboy
i agree with some of the stuff,but lately it's become alot less stressful for me,now that those certain a and i words are out of the picture,I feel like I can give better customer service,and not push people or just want to walk away one a person only wants one item,I really have no problem making my goal,because I feel more confident selling products and not trying to cram them down a person's throat,When I'm with a customer I take my time and help them,if they can only buy thing at a time then I'll through some samples in also that they will like,showing them that i care,not some sleezy trick to get them coming back,usually it does result in that but its followed by a thank you for the sample last time,i liked the product i would like to get the full thing now

This is exactly what happened to me as soon as I became a freelancer...since the pressure was off, I was free to sell the way I shop...and I sell WAY more than I did as a perm. employee.

Getting rid of AUS & IPT was the best thing MAC ever did for their employees (and customers!).
 

littlemakeupboy

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Originally Posted by giz2000
This is exactly what happened to me as soon as I became a freelancer...since the pressure was off, I was free to sell the way I shop...and I sell WAY more than I did as a perm. employee.

Getting rid of AUS & IPT was the best thing MAC ever did for their employees (and customers!).


i agree one hundred percent
seriously
i felt sleezy trying to sell people products they clearly don't want

it feels so much better without it
 

FacesbyNiki

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Originally Posted by littlemakeupboy
i agree with some of the stuff,but lately it's become alot less stressful for me,now that those certain a and i words are out of the picture,I feel like I can give better customer service,and not push people or just want to walk away one a person only wants one item,I really have no problem making my goal,because I feel more confident selling products and not trying to cram them down a person's throat,When I'm with a customer I take my time and help them,if they can only buy thing at a time then I'll through some samples in also that they will like,showing them that i care,not some sleezy trick to get them coming back,usually it does result in that but its followed by a thank you for the sample last time,i liked the product i would like to get the full thing now

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