What do you think of sugar daddies?Can a SD/SB turn intoa serioius relationship?
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ForgetRegret
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Very true...I guess because I'm not, and could never bring myself to be one, I don't understand how someone could be proud of that...the thought of it kinda gives me the heeby jeebies...which is probably why I can't get my mind around the sugardaddy thing...in my head it's just legal prostitution.
Originally Posted by TISH1124
It would only be positive to someone who is a Whore or a Prostitute!!! Agreed! |
Very true...I guess because I'm not, and could never bring myself to be one, I don't understand how someone could be proud of that...the thought of it kinda gives me the heeby jeebies...which is probably why I can't get my mind around the sugardaddy thing...in my head it's just legal prostitution.
Arisone
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Honestly, I am disturbed by the power dynamics in the these type of "relationships". If the man is successful why does he feel the need to use his money to attract women? Is the sugar daddy in question preying on younger women who have a lack of funds? Some of the sugar daddy relationships are usually men looking to control women. I know a few women who had sugar daddies and it didn't end well. Most of these guys felt like they owned them since they were buying gifts for them. In one case, the sugar daddy thought the girl was going out with another guy and became physically abusive.
I doubt that a real relationship can come from this.
I doubt that a real relationship can come from this.
Boasorte
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That's crazy,I don't know what kind of man would put his hands on a women, be it a sugar daddy, husband, or a boyfriend.
It should be a mutual understanding, money/gifts for sex/companionship, why the abuse?
| Originally Posted by Arisone
Honestly, I am disturbed by the power dynamics in the these type of "relationships". If the man is successful why does he feel the need to use his money to attract women? Is the sugar daddy in question preying on younger women who have a lack of funds? Some of the sugar daddy relationships are usually men looking to control women. I know a few women who had sugar daddies and it didn't end well. Most of these guys felt like they owned them since they were buying gifts for them. In one case, the sugar daddy thought the girl was going out with another guy and became physically abusive. I doubt that a real relationship can come from this. |
That's crazy,I don't know what kind of man would put his hands on a women, be it a sugar daddy, husband, or a boyfriend.
It should be a mutual understanding, money/gifts for sex/companionship, why the abuse?
ForgetRegret
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OMG Tish...the sentiment is SO not funny...but the way you put things sometimes...hahaha I love it.
| Originally Posted by TISH1124
Well Most Pimps/Sugar daddy's have a tendency to feel like they have "Slap A Ho" entitlement |
OMG Tish...the sentiment is SO not funny...but the way you put things sometimes...hahaha I love it.
Boasorte
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Very well said, or in this case, written.
IDK why, but I like those little penises
| Originally Posted by Casadalinnis
A sugar daddy is usually paying for your \/ over your feelings or your heart. Like old school courting, guys would show up at your parents' or your door bearing flowers or chocolates. They'd postpone sex until mutual feelings were established and they knew they cared and wanted to be in a relationship with one another. Yes, I know this is really outdated but at one time, a girl got a reputation as being easy if she put out too quick. Say Jason isn't my fiance but some guy who I effed and didn't care abut nor him caring about me. The guy that came around on Mondays and Thursdays with a hard 8=> and left drained but remembered my $150 on the table by the door, then that would make me a prostitute. No mutual interest past my financial and his sexual gain....and no feelings about how he paid the girl more for services rendered than to win her heart. Sugar daddies are puttin out the money so the girl keeps putting out. Tish is right about something. We have a code that guys follow here the same that she mentioned, you can't make a ho a housewife and they follow it to a tee. The guys treat girls to clothing at Patapsco Flea Market and then bounce and it's even worse if she ends up pregnant. Dude has already bounced to the next ho who takes his money and she's left struggling to raise a child while he pays for more sex. A girls' self esteem and self worth get ruined by living lives like this and they can end up doing it regularly. If it's gonna be sex, leave it as sex. I've done it but I'm sorry, I pay my way if it leads from sex to a real relationship. Our asses are going dutch so I don't feel like a whore later and I feel like I'm still worth being with. We're swapping a movie for the dinner bill or something because when I fall on his 8=>, I want to know there was no gain on my end and I did it without coersion or force. I have to look at me in the morning to see if I can still live with what I've done. "A guy wants a girl he can bring home to momma" = a lot of truth. Hey mom, this is the girl I've been paying to suck my 8=> does not cut it with a lot of mothers probably without the son getting beat upside the head. |
Very well said, or in this case, written.
IDK why, but I like those little penises
Boasorte
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OMG Tish your posts make me laugh so much
| Originally Posted by TISH1124
I was confused by the arrow point actually...I went have gone more with 8=D but what the hell....some guys have to get their point across I guess ...j/k but thats sharp! Not slap a Ho but Cut a Ho ....Okay I'm outta this thread! |
OMG Tish your posts make me laugh so much
ForgetRegret
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Tish! You can't leave! ...and anyway, if a guy's only working with 8=D, I'm taking off in the other direction, and going home to BOB...I need something more like 8========D
...why aren't the font sizes and bolds working??? Here I am, trying to make a nice, thick wiener, and it's not working!!! BOOOO!
| Originally Posted by TISH1124
I was confused by the arrow point actually...I went have gone more with 8=D but what the hell....some guys have to get their point across I guess ...j/k but thats sharp! Not slap a Ho but Cut a Ho ....Okay I'm outta this thread! |
Tish! You can't leave! ...and anyway, if a guy's only working with 8=D, I'm taking off in the other direction, and going home to BOB...I need something more like 8========D
...why aren't the font sizes and bolds working??? Here I am, trying to make a nice, thick wiener, and it's not working!!! BOOOO!
Boasorte
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omg I am DYING over here
| Originally Posted by ForgetRegret
Tish! You can't leave! ...and anyway, if a guy's only working with 8=D, I'm taking off in the other direction, and going home to BOB...I need something more like 8========D
...why aren't the font sizes and bolds working??? Here I am, trying to make a nice, thick wiener, and it's not working!!! BOOOO! |
omg I am DYING over here
lafemmenoir
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Hmm...I think people prostitute themselves in many ways to be honest. I have heard about all these women in "loveless" marriages and they still have sex with their husband for "his" needs.
I've also seen these "arrangements" where, suprise, the man catches feelings and wants more of his little side dish.
As for power, is that in terms of finances because I have a great career, but in my field men make loads more than women so I think power means the emotional part and what you offer as a whole, because if it's about gifts and money, then wives who do not work, and don't have kids would they be considered a "trick" ? I understand the taking care of the home, but that would mean she does everything outside of going to a 9-5 job.
I guess I'm just jaded about men these days and have seen so many of these "arrangements" and affairs men engage in and these women accept it.
I guess the bottom line is, anything can work, but why? Either have the "arrangement" with no expectations, or have a bonafide relationship and work from there. Usually when any relationship starts one way, and a curve ball comes ( i.e. threesomes, swingers, friends with benefits) they don't withstand long term. Seriously, what kind of trust or foundation do you build upon? Not judging just curious.
I've also seen these "arrangements" where, suprise, the man catches feelings and wants more of his little side dish.
As for power, is that in terms of finances because I have a great career, but in my field men make loads more than women so I think power means the emotional part and what you offer as a whole, because if it's about gifts and money, then wives who do not work, and don't have kids would they be considered a "trick" ? I understand the taking care of the home, but that would mean she does everything outside of going to a 9-5 job.
I guess I'm just jaded about men these days and have seen so many of these "arrangements" and affairs men engage in and these women accept it.
I guess the bottom line is, anything can work, but why? Either have the "arrangement" with no expectations, or have a bonafide relationship and work from there. Usually when any relationship starts one way, and a curve ball comes ( i.e. threesomes, swingers, friends with benefits) they don't withstand long term. Seriously, what kind of trust or foundation do you build upon? Not judging just curious.
lyttleravyn
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Really why is anyone in a relationship? Its to enhance the quality of our lives. It also doesn't mean the same things for everyone. Love, companionship, material gain, etc. Throughout history marriages were based more on financial gain and continuing the family line then personal feelings. You did what you had to survive.
In today's world, not everyone is suited for a monogamous relationship, and I know a few very sweet guys who entered into SD/SB relationships because they wanted companionship but due to their jobs (long hours, lots of travel, etc.) they knew they wouldn't be able to give a woman a regular relationship. And I think in some SD/SB relationships and even in some instances of prostitution, the woman is really the one in control. Personally, I was approached by a guy for a SD/SB relationship. I ended up not taking it because I moved because of my job, but it wasn't as dirty and underground as some people are making it seem. He and I drew up a written contract detailing all aspects of our relationship. He was based in Australia, but traveled to the states every few weeks or so. He didn't want to stay in a hotel by himself every time, so the arrangement was that he would provide me with an apartment of my choosing, furnish it, etc. He also included stipends for a car, gas, food, even pets if I wanted them. He requested we share a bedroom, but was specific that I was under no obligation to provide any sexual favors. Basically he wanted a girl to 'come home to' while he was traveling to the states so it wouldn't be so lonely for him. He was a decent guy, and even gave me the phone number of a girl he had had a similar relationship with previously if I had any questions; she had been a college student who was estranged from her family and was just making ends meet. She was very sweet and only had good things to say about the guy.
I did watch a documentary recently about underage girls being forced into prostitution, which is a completely different scenario that I don't agree with, but then on the other hand there's places like the Bunny Ranch. Would I ever work at the Bunny Ranch? Probably not, but I don't see those women as 'dirty' because they found something they enjoy and are able to support themselves with it. Why is it so shameful to use our assets? What's the difference between using our brains and our bodies? Maybe I just don't see this issue as so 'taboo' as others, but I respect women in control of their lives. And some of these women are doing exactly that.
In today's world, not everyone is suited for a monogamous relationship, and I know a few very sweet guys who entered into SD/SB relationships because they wanted companionship but due to their jobs (long hours, lots of travel, etc.) they knew they wouldn't be able to give a woman a regular relationship. And I think in some SD/SB relationships and even in some instances of prostitution, the woman is really the one in control. Personally, I was approached by a guy for a SD/SB relationship. I ended up not taking it because I moved because of my job, but it wasn't as dirty and underground as some people are making it seem. He and I drew up a written contract detailing all aspects of our relationship. He was based in Australia, but traveled to the states every few weeks or so. He didn't want to stay in a hotel by himself every time, so the arrangement was that he would provide me with an apartment of my choosing, furnish it, etc. He also included stipends for a car, gas, food, even pets if I wanted them. He requested we share a bedroom, but was specific that I was under no obligation to provide any sexual favors. Basically he wanted a girl to 'come home to' while he was traveling to the states so it wouldn't be so lonely for him. He was a decent guy, and even gave me the phone number of a girl he had had a similar relationship with previously if I had any questions; she had been a college student who was estranged from her family and was just making ends meet. She was very sweet and only had good things to say about the guy.
I did watch a documentary recently about underage girls being forced into prostitution, which is a completely different scenario that I don't agree with, but then on the other hand there's places like the Bunny Ranch. Would I ever work at the Bunny Ranch? Probably not, but I don't see those women as 'dirty' because they found something they enjoy and are able to support themselves with it. Why is it so shameful to use our assets? What's the difference between using our brains and our bodies? Maybe I just don't see this issue as so 'taboo' as others, but I respect women in control of their lives. And some of these women are doing exactly that.
Boasorte
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well said Ravyn
There are always gonna be people who view it as prostitution, some who couldn't care less, and some people who think that there is nothing wrong with it.
The Bunny Ranch, hmmm I don't care for it either way although Iadmit to watching Cathouse once in a blue. (smh) THey love what they do, so more power to them. I think it's a tad bit different because they sleep with multiple men, while in a SD/SB relationship, it's just the man and the girl ( unless both parties have a sig. other)
Thanks for providing that little story about your potential sugar daddy
There are always gonna be people who view it as prostitution, some who couldn't care less, and some people who think that there is nothing wrong with it.
The Bunny Ranch, hmmm I don't care for it either way although Iadmit to watching Cathouse once in a blue. (smh) THey love what they do, so more power to them. I think it's a tad bit different because they sleep with multiple men, while in a SD/SB relationship, it's just the man and the girl ( unless both parties have a sig. other)
Thanks for providing that little story about your potential sugar daddy
kaliraksha
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Thanks for this perspective! I've always wondered if courteous agreements worked and to what extent a SD provided for. Good insight.
| Originally Posted by lyttleravyn
Personally, I was approached by a guy for a SD/SB relationship. I ended up not taking it because I moved because of my job, but it wasn't as dirty and underground as some people are making it seem. He and I drew up a written contract detailing all aspects of our relationship. He was based in Australia, but traveled to the states every few weeks or so. He didn't want to stay in a hotel by himself every time, so the arrangement was that he would provide me with an apartment of my choosing, furnish it, etc. He also included stipends for a car, gas, food, even pets if I wanted them. He requested we share a bedroom, but was specific that I was under no obligation to provide any sexual favors. Basically he wanted a girl to 'come home to' while he was traveling to the states so it wouldn't be so lonely for him. He was a decent guy, and even gave me the phone number of a girl he had had a similar relationship with previously if I had any questions; she had been a college student who was estranged from her family and was just making ends meet. She was very sweet and only had good things to say about the guy. |
Thanks for this perspective! I've always wondered if courteous agreements worked and to what extent a SD provided for. Good insight.
