White House Defines Contraception as Abortion?

frocher

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Federal funding for family planning clinics could dry up under a proposal from the Bush administration. Pro-choice advocates attacked the proposal as an assault on women's health and for expanding the definition of abortion to include birth control.


WASHINGTON --Reproductive rights advocates issued a collective condemnation Tuesday of a draft proposal by the Bush administration to set new restrictions on domestic family planning programs.
Under the draft proposal, federally funded hospitals and clinics that provide family planning services would be required to promise in writing that they will turn a blind eye to health care providers' views on abortion and certain kinds of birth control, such as emergency contraception.
The proposed rule defines abortion as "any of the various procedures--including the prescription, dispensing and administration of any drug or the performance of any procedure or any other action--that results in the termination of the life of a human being in utero between conception and natural birth, whether before or after implantation."
Organizations that do not comply would forfeit financial aid distributed by the Department of Health and Human Services.
If implemented, the regulations could make it more difficult for many to access information about abortion and birth control and obtain supplies and services, said Mary Jane Gallagher, president of the National Family Planning and Reproductive Health Association in Washington, D.C. The regulation could also undermine state laws ensuring access to birth control, she said. And it would redefine abortion so that it includes certain kinds of birth control methods, setting a dangerous precedent.
"I've been around about 30 years and I've never seen anything quite this widely imposed," Gallagher said.
If implemented, the rule would require family planning programs at hospitals and clinics to hire people even if they oppose abortion or birth control. In other words, health care providers would have the right to refuse to provide patients with comprehensive information about abortion or birth control even if they ask for it.
Providers could also refuse to write prescriptions for birth control or provide referrals for abortion services based on their personal beliefs, adding to a trend that is already reflected in litigation involving pharmacists around the country who argue religious freedoms in their refusal to dispense emergency contraception.
"Women's ability to manage their own health care is at risk of being compromised by politics and ideology," said Cecile Richards, president of the New York-based Planned Parenthood Federation of America.
Freedom to Speak Against Abortion

Religious conservatives and anti-choice activists hailed the proposed regulation as a way to protect medical professionals' constitutional right to freedom of speech and religious expression.
"Health care professionals must be free to follow their individual conscientious convictions on these life-and-death matters," said Dr. David Stevens, chief executive officer of Christian Medical and Dental Associations, a 13,000-member group in Bristol, Tenn., in a letter to Secretary of Health and Human Services Michael Leavitt.
"The regulations reportedly under consideration at Health and Human Services apparently would simply protect the right for all health care professionals to make professional judgments based on moral convictions and ethical standards. Protecting this right also protects patients who choose their physicians based on life-affirming values."
A Health and Human Services spokesperson declined to respond to critics' complaints, but said Congress has enacted similar freedom-of-conscience laws in the past.
Critics say the regulation would have far-reaching implications.
Organizations that don't comply with the proposed rule could be forced to scale back services due to lack of funding, leaving women who rely on government-funded family-planning clinics with fewer options for affordable services and supplies, Richards said. That would compound their financial difficulties at a time of rising rates of unemployment and higher costs for food and fuel.
Superceding States' Policies

The regulation could also undermine state laws that require hospitals to provide emergency contraception to rape victims and that require health care insurance plans to cover contraceptives if they cover other prescription medications, according to NARAL Pro-Choice America, an abortion rights lobby in Washington, D.C.
Leavitt is also exploring other options to protect health care providers, the Health and Human Services spokesperson said. Leavitt, for example, recently sent letters to the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology in Washington, D.C., expressing concern over policies that "may have forced providers to choose between compromising their personal beliefs and facing economic and professional sanctions."
The freedom-of-conscience proposal--currently in draft form--awaits final approval from the administration. If that occurs, the administration would then file the proposal with the Federal Register, which would trigger a 30-day public comment period.
In that event, Planned Parenthood, the National Family Planning and Reproductive Health Association and other advocacy groups will launch a public relations campaign to drum up opposition to the proposed rule in the hopes of preventing the administration from implementing the change before it leaves office in January.
Advocates are also considering legal strategies to fight implemented regulations in court.
"Planned Parenthood will not stand by and watch the Bush administration deny quality, affordable health care and accurate information to millions of women," Richards said.
Blocking Birth Control Access

If implemented, the proposal could expand on efforts by professionals in the health care industry who hold anti-choice views to block access to birth control.
In addition to the pharmacist refusals, anti-choice activists backed an effort by the Bush administration to delay a decision on whether to give emergency contraception over-the-counter status. The administration gave women's rights advocates a partial victory in 2006 when it agreed to make emergency contraception available without a prescription to women 18 and older but not to younger women, often those who need it the most.
Anti-choice advocates want Bush to go further by reinstating the so-called domestic gag rule before he leaves office.
In May, the Family Research Council, an advocacy group in Holland, Mich., sent a letter to the administration urging it to reinstate the rule, which would bar U.S. family planning clinics from receiving federal aid if they provide abortions or abortion counseling among their services. It would mimic a current ban on federal funding for overseas clinics that offer similar counseling and services.
News of Bush's latest proposal surfaced in a report in the New York Times on Tuesday, one week after Carly Fiorina, an adviser to presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, said she supported legislation to require insurance companies to cover contraception. McCain has voted against the legislation.
When asked by a Los Angeles Times reporter about Fiorina's statement, McCain squirmed: "It's something that I had not thought much about."
The answer prompted NARAL'S Keenan to urge support for McCain's Democratic rival, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.
"McCain's straight-talk express seems to hit a speed bump when asked about his votes against family planning and birth control," Keenan said. "Today's news only underscores why we need to elect pro-choice Sen. Barack Obama as our next president."
 

rbella

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Son of a bitch. When the hell are people going to realize that a world full of unwanted children is worse than giving the woman a right to an abortion? For God's sake, look at Haiti.
 

frocher

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What disturbs me about this is they are trying to define contraception as abortion, it is not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination. The GOP are always up in arms about abortion, no big surprise, but this is doubly troubling imo.
 

rbella

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I mis-read. I thought they were looking at just the morning after pill. But there is no way this will get passed. I would go to Mexico and shove it up my ass and bring it across the border illegally before I'd let this affect me. No one is going to tell me that I have to practice safe sex by using condoms and the counting method. Hell no.
 

*Stargazer*

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I've re-read it four times and I'm not seeing the contraception part. I'm only seeing emergency contraception.

That said - what a load of horseshit. I'm tired of these asshole pharamacists and doctors that think they can spew their religious bullshit into the lives of others. Why don't they get another damn job if it is SO important to them? I swear to all that is good, if anyone ever denied me treatment because of THEIR religion, you'd all see me on the nightly news.

I hardly EVER buy the slippery slope argument, but if we start allowing these pharmacists and doctors to insert their religious views into their job, it won't stop with reproductive rights.
 

Nox

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I just can't stand it. Irrelevant men proposing crazy rhetoric like this are everywhere. It was just a few short years ago in Japan, they finally approved birth control for women, but of course Viagra (being designed for men) was introduced and approved in a snap. Same with John McCain (and his wife, Ms. Moneybags) , they are for Viagra but are not for contraceptives. Why the hell is that old fart talking about issues pertaining to fertile people? He should have gracefully bowed out of that conversation decades ago.

Why do some people continually insist upon making sure a man feels virile in his pants, but don't blink an eye at taking away a woman's power over her own body? And what baffles me even more are other women who falls for this garbage. Bah!
 

Odette

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I am flabbergasted! Are they nuts!
This would be a major step in the wrong bloody direction.
*exits in disgust*
 

MxAxC-_ATTACK

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does this article has a source? I would like to show it to some people but they aren't gonna buy it if I show them a Makeup website.
 

Beauty Mark

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I really hope this isn't reflective upon most of the US's beliefs. I think when you take a job, you have to do both the good and the bad. If you feel it compromises your principles, don't take the job! We live in a country where we pick our careers, not have them assigned. Pick something else.

The pharmacists denying birth control pills really pisses me off. It's not the pharmacist's business for your reasons, and besides, people are prescribed medicine for the not obvious effect. Many women go on them for other reasons. My period was hell before the pill, and I went on them for that, not because I was having sex.
 

TDoll

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Maybe I'm reading this wrong...but I'm only seeing the part that says "...types of birth control, such as emergency contraception"
Emergency contraception = morning after pill

I don't believe they are talking about "regular" birth control pills. I think it's saying that only the "emergency contraception" (aka morning after pill- which technically falls into that category of birth control although it is MUCH different) would no longer be available at family planning centers and clinics. NOT that it would no longer be available at pharmacies or all together. And that these types of emergency contraception or info. on abortion would not be provided readily at these types of places.

I would definitely like to read further into this and see the actual proposal. This article sounds a little one sided...especially when you get to the last sentence...lol.

This is America. Bottom line, women will never be able to not have access to birth control. This sounds like another political issue thats conveniently coming up before the election.

Bush is very Pro-life, has been president for almost 2 terms and birth control, info on abortion, and emergency contraception is more readily available now than it has ever been. Not just the president makes those kinds of decisions. So that last sentence in this article is totally absurd. I would love to know where this came from.
 

Simply Elegant

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Wow if they mean all birth control, that's really ridiculous. I think they really need to re-evaluate this proposal. They would be taking away services that the most vulnerable women need the most. It just doesn't make sense. If as a pharmacist, you don't agree with it, it's too bad because the doctor has already prescribed it and the pharmacist is getting paid to dispense the drugs and should do so. Religion and politics don't need to mix. It's degrading to only have one choice and listen to old men who have no idea what it's like to be pregnant or faced with that sort of decision.

It says "certain kinds of birth control" so I'm not entirely sure what types the author means, but either way, all forms of birth control should be available.
 

TDoll

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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbella
^^^Great post, TDoll.

Thanks girl...this one heated me up. I'm married to a political scientist (turned Food distribution Consultant...haha) so he can't talk about political junk at work....so who catches it all??? ME. lol

You can't listen to opinion articles. You need to read the actual proposals and understand what candidates stand for and what they actually have control over. When people take the time to understand and know how the political spectrum actually works, then they'll understand that presidents simply don't have ultimate control over these types of issues. This could never go through without the approval of MANY MANY people from both sides of the spectrum, regardless of who the president is.

Don't worry chicas....your uterus is safe.
 

animecute

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nox
I just can't stand it. Irrelevant men proposing crazy rhetoric like this are everywhere. It was just a few short years ago in Japan, they finally approved birth control for women, but of course Viagra (being designed for men) was introduced and approved in a snap. Same with John McCain (and his wife, Ms. Moneybags) , they are for Viagra but are not for contraceptives. Why the hell is that old fart talking about issues pertaining to fertile people? He should have gracefully bowed out of that conversation decades ago.

Why do some people continually insist upon making sure a man feels virile in his pants, but don't blink an eye at taking away a woman's power over her own body? And what baffles me even more are other women who falls for this garbage. Bah!


Well said. This just isn't right. Like I understand if the mother and father can both afford and handle and are able to raise the child then it shouldn't be much to have the child, but think about those who can't afford the child or other things. The worse part is usually the mother is stuck with the child. The father doesn't get the "burden". The guys can do whatever but the woman is ultimately stuck. Idk how to say it but I think everyone knows what I mean. Like women won't have a choice with this. Guys can get out easier.
 

TDoll

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nox
I just can't stand it. Irrelevant men proposing crazy rhetoric like this are everywhere. It was just a few short years ago in Japan, they finally approved birth control for women, but of course Viagra (being designed for men) was introduced and approved in a snap. Same with John McCain (and his wife, Ms. Moneybags) , they are for Viagra but are not for contraceptives. Why the hell is that old fart talking about issues pertaining to fertile people? He should have gracefully bowed out of that conversation decades ago.

Why do some people continually insist upon making sure a man feels virile in his pants, but don't blink an eye at taking away a woman's power over her own body? And what baffles me even more are other women who falls for this garbage. Bah!


I never thought of comparing birth control to viagra...lol.

The ACTUAL PROPOSAL which this article is commenting about, it's not about "taking away a woman's power over her own body" or getting rid of birth control, emergency contraception, or info. on abortion clinics. Re-read the first sentence of the post. If the proposal goes through (which I strongly doubt...) then these things will not be available for free at family planning clinics, such as Planned Parenthood. The proposal is about limiting the availability of this type of contraception/information at planned parenthood/family planning clinics. This has actually been an issue for a while and has been talked about for a looong time. It's just coming up before the election.
Birth control as we know it will not change. It will still be just as available at pharmacies as it is today if this went through. However, this information would not be given to girls as readily as it is today at family planning clinics.

Call me crazy, but I don't think the morning after pill or info on abortion/abortion clinics should be available for free at these types of family planning centers. Regular birth control for free is one thing, but not those. I think that those are serious things that should be discussed with your doctor and not rushed out to get for free. Pharmacies will provide the morning after pill, but they consent your doctor first.

I mean, damn. They aren't giving Viagra away for free.
 

rbella

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Originally Posted by TDoll
It's just coming up before the election.

Great point!!! Doesn't it always come up before an election?
 
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